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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #160 on: 26/05/2018 16:41:29 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 26/05/2018 13:59:22
The waters of lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, while the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming giant whirlpools.
I posted a picture of the ocean currents.
They don't include these whirlpools you keep going on about.
Why are you still pretending the whirlpools are real?
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #161 on: 26/05/2018 16:45:22 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/05/2018 16:41:29

Why are you still pretending the whirlpools are real?


When water breaks around an obstruction , it can create eddy currents maybe ? 
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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #162 on: 27/05/2018 10:12:00 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/05/2018 16:41:29
Quote from: Fermer05 on 26/05/2018 13:59:22
The waters of lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, while the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming giant whirlpools.
I posted a picture of the ocean currents.
They don't include these whirlpools you keep going on about.
Why are you still pretending the whirlpools are real?
As a rule, currents move along the perimeter of the seas and oceans, carrying huge masses of water, and reaching a speed of 30 km / h.
https://ru.pinterest.com/pin/310537336784446596/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=wlvkrRdYNZ0
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Течение
http:/.../vietnam-times.ru/news/different/klimatom-zemli-upravljajut-ogromnye-okeanicheskie-vodovoroty/
https:/.../earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-202.23,319.63,234/loc=114.946,-89.960
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #163 on: 27/05/2018 13:47:34 »
I thought this one was quite pretty.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=wlvkrRdYNZ0
As you can see it shows currents swirling both clockwise and counterclockwise.
But you keep pretending that they would only exist in different hemispheres.

Why not just face up to the fact that you are wrong?
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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #164 on: 27/05/2018 15:34:59 »
Go to the link, there are all the answers about the whirlpools and currents.
It says: In the northern hemisphere, the dominant direction of rotation of the whirlpools, counter-clockwise, and in the southern hemisphere, clockwise.
http://www.spbgu.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=53992
https://mephi.ru/communication/forum/talk/forum13/topic5498/messages/
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #165 on: 27/05/2018 16:15:21 »
You might expect something like that because of the Coriolis effect.
Nothing much to do with tides.
I'm stil waiting for you to show that there's anything wrong with the conventional explanation of tides.
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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #166 on: 27/05/2018 20:15:31 »
Follow the link, there are all the answers.
http://www.spbgu.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=53992
https://mephi.ru/communication/forum/talk/forum13/topic5498/messages/
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #167 on: 27/05/2018 20:22:37 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 27/05/2018 20:15:31
Follow the link, there are all the answers.
http://www.spbgu.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=53992
https://mephi.ru/communication/forum/talk/forum13/topic5498/messages/
Can you translate them?
I'm not after the whole lot.
I just want you to answer my question.
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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #168 on: 27/05/2018 20:44:44 »
I answered many questions, read the forum again.
Ask questions specifically.
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #169 on: 27/05/2018 20:52:13 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 27/05/2018 20:44:44
I answered many questions, read the forum again.
Ask questions specifically.
Again?
OK
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/05/2018 22:04:52
You need to show where the conventional view gets the wrong answer.
Good luck.

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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #170 on: 27/05/2018 21:13:27 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 13/05/2018 06:30:41
Quote from: Bored chemist on 12/05/2018 01:18:32
It isn't a complicated question I'm asking.
what evidence do you have
1. In the Atlantic Ocean from east to west, to the Gulf of Maine, a tidal current or tidal wave moves and at what speed.
2. How to explain the fact that in southwest Australia in the port of Fremantle the tides are part of the year significant, and then disappear.
3. Why abnormally high tides are formed only on the northern and southern shores of the seas and oceans and not on the eastern.
4. Why are tidal waves moving strictly along the perimeter of lakes, seas and oceans, and not from east to west, following the Moon?
5. As the current of the western winds manages to move from west to east, at a speed of 5 km / h, wiping the ocean floor, while the tidal wave flows from east to west at a speed of 800 km / h, wiping the ocean floor.
6. Why is not tidal current used to move ships from east to west.
7. It is believed that the cause of the second lunar hump is the barycenter. And what is the cause of the solar second hump?
Who is the author of the theory of tidal resonance and why this theory is not available on the Internet?
8. As long as the tidal wave makes one revolution around the Earth, the Moon makes two turns, how is the gravitational connection between the Moon and the tidal hump?
9. In order that there was a "Moon tidal hump," the heterogeneity of the gravitational field is necessary, and for this, the Moon must constantly be above the hump, otherwise the hump will collapse.
10. The way to refute the whirlpool theory is to show coves and bays where there are fast rotating whirlpools, but there are no abnormally high tides.
11. Frequently Asked Questions Concerning Tides:
http://mypages.iit.edu/~johnsonpo/smart00/lesson4.htm#tidefaqs
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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #171 on: 27/05/2018 21:23:34 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 30/04/2018 17:51:15
The existence of tidal humpbacks from textbooks would mean a constant movement
scary trillion tons of sea water on the world's oceans.
This phenomenon in nature as something not observed.
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #172 on: 27/05/2018 21:30:46 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 27/05/2018 21:13:27
In the Atlantic Ocean from east to west, to the Gulf of Maine, a tidal current or tidal wave...
Which do  you mean?
A tidal wave, or a tidal current.
Depending on latitude the tidal bulge can move at a thousand miles an hour.
But I already explained why you don't see this.
Why is it still  on your list?


Quote from: Fermer05 on 27/05/2018 21:13:27
How to explain the fact that in southwest Australia in the port of Fremantle the tides are part of the year significant, and then disappear.
The existence of spring and neap tides was already explained.
Why is it still on  your list?

Quote from: Fermer05 on 27/05/2018 21:13:27
Why abnormally high tides are formed only on the northern and southern shores of the seas and oceans and not on the eastern.
That was shon to be incorrect.
Why is it still on the list

and so on.
Please remove the stuff that has already been dealt with and then answer my question, rather than repeating stuff you know is wrong.
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #173 on: 27/05/2018 21:32:07 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 27/05/2018 21:28:00
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.
We already explained Fandi etc.
Why don't you realise this?
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #174 on: 28/05/2018 09:53:35 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 27/05/2018 21:46:17
The vortex theory of tides can be easily verified by the connection between the height of the tidal wave and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.
And it can be easily disproved too by the same  thing.
So when someone posts data that show you are wrong, like these:
Quote from: Colin2B on 26/05/2018 13:16:39
I’ve logged on to the buoy to check the last year of data and these figures don’t match the tides. Sorry, but another nail in your ‘theory’.
it's time to accept that your idea is dead.

When your idea does not agree with reality, it is not because reality has made an error.
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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #175 on: 28/05/2018 11:56:51 »
Quote from: opportunity on 23/05/2018 11:26:15
Can someone summarise what tidal resonance theory is?
And who is the author of this theory?
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« Reply #176 on: 28/05/2018 12:11:38 »
Quote from: Fermer05 on 28/05/2018 11:56:51
Quote from: opportunity on 23/05/2018 11:26:15
Can someone summarise what tidal resonance theory is?
And who is the author of this theory?
You were already directed to a sumary
Quote from: Colin2B on 23/05/2018 11:36:46
Quote from: opportunity on 23/05/2018 11:26:15
Can someone summarise what tidal resonance theory is?
See post #126 https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.msg542648#msg542648

For the sake of discussion, we can pretend that my school-mate Criss wrote it.
Sadly he's no longer with us so he can't answer for it.
You will therefore have to focus on what it says (which s important) rather than who said it (which is not important).
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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #177 on: 28/05/2018 13:41:39 »
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Your links lead nowhere.
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Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
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Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/05/2018 12:11:38
See post #126 https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.msg542648#msg542648
Yes it does.
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Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #179 on: 29/05/2018 10:07:51 »
Incidentally, do you think the tides in landmasses are due to whirlpools?
It may have escaped your notice, but Scotland remains resolutely North of London.
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