[Bored chemist]

I believe the last three posts brilliantly refute the Moon theory of tides.

We are not responsible for what you believe.
However the evidence makes it pretty clear that the Moon and Sun drive the tides.

Perhaps you would like to answer my question; how did you come to the view that there were supersonic waves crossing the seas without anyone noticing?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

That the "lunar tidal wave" is moving from east to west, at a speed of 1600 km per hour, I do not claim. This is written in the lunar theory of tides.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/earth-and-environment/geology-and-oceanography/geology-and-oceanography/tides

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.

2. Why the height of the tides, on the west coast of the Nova Scotia Peninsula (the Bay of Fundy) is 20 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

3. How to explain the fact that in south-western Australia in the port of Fremantle, tides for half a year disappear.

4. Once a year in the delta of the Northern Dvina, the tides mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature (the White Sea).

None of these are mysteries to anyone who understands the dynamic theory of tides

What prevents you from discovering this greatest mystery of nature, relying on the dynamic model of tides.
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/Ellie_Boyce/dynamic.htm

[Bored chemist]

That the "lunar tidal wave" is moving from east to west, at a speed of 1600 km per hour, I do not claim. This is written in the lunar theory of tides.

Is there any way to get you to understand the difference between the tidal bulge and a tidal wave?
If not, there is no way  that this thread will ever make progress.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

That the "lunar tidal wave" is moving from east to west, at a speed of 1600 km per hour, I do not claim. This is written in the lunar theory of tides.

Is there any way to get you to understand the difference between the tidal bulge and a tidal wave?
If not, there is no way  that this thread will ever make progress.

What kind of wave are you writing,
lunar or maelstrom.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.

2. Why the height of the tides, on the west coast of the Nova Scotia Peninsula (the Bay of Fundy) is 20 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

3. How to explain the fact that in south-western Australia in the port of Fremantle, tides for half a year disappear.

4. Once a year in the delta of the Northern Dvina, the tides mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature (the White Sea).

None of these are mysteries to anyone who understands the dynamic theory of tides

What prevents you from discovering this greatest mystery of nature, relying on the dynamic model of tides.
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/Ellie_Boyce/dynamic.htm

Colin2B, you have studied the "dynamic tide model" well enough to answer these questions.

[Bored chemist]

Come back to us when you realise that the tidal bulge isn't a wave.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.

2. Why the height of the tides, on the west coast of the Nova Scotia Peninsula (the Bay of Fundy) is 20 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

3. How to explain the fact that in south-western Australia in the port of Fremantle, tides for half a year disappear.

4. Once a year in the delta of the Northern Dvina, the tides mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature (the White Sea).

None of these are mysteries to anyone who understands the dynamic theory of tides

What prevents you from discovering this greatest mystery of nature, relying on the dynamic model of tides.
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/Ellie_Boyce/dynamic.htm

Colin2B, you have studied the "dynamic tide model" well enough to answer these questions.

Сolin2B, you can answer these four questions based on the dynamic tide model.

[Colin2B]

Сolin2B, you can answer these four questions based on the dynamic tide model.

Yes I can, easily.
But as you are not the slightest bit interested in the truth I see no point in wasting keyboard time.

PS You seem to be ignoring the fact that your whirlpool theory is proven to be false.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Сolin2B, you can answer these four questions based on the dynamic tide model.
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/Ellie_Boyce/dynamic.htm

Yes I can, easily.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that your whirlpool theory is proven to be false.

Then answer these four questions based on the true theory of tides.
Lies are always weak.

[Bored chemist]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.

2. Why the height of the tides, on the west coast of the Nova Scotia Peninsula (the Bay of Fundy) is 20 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

3. Why the height of the tides on the western coast of the peninsula of Kamchatka is 25 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

You have yet to explain why you think the behaviour should be different from that observed.
You say "but it should be all the opposite", but you don't say why.

4. How to explain the fact that in south-western Australia in the port of Fremantle, tides for half a year disappear.

I can find no support for the idea that this happens. Please cite some evidence that the effect is real.

5. Once a year in the delta of the Northern Dvina, the tides mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature (the White Sea).

Again, I can't find evidence for this
On the other hand, I did find a report into the tide/ current there.
https://iwaponline.com/jh/article-abstract/20/4/798/38904/Flow-dynamics-in-large-tidal-delta-of-the-Northern?redirectedFrom=fulltext

If they had found anything anomalous, that fact would be mentioned in the abstract. yet it isn't.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Colin2B writes.
One of the problems associated with trying to discuss with you is that you misconstrue the basic concepts and try to curb them in your ideas.

Quote: Юсуп Хизировse Today at 07:08:01

And according to the dynamic theory of the Laplace tides, the "tidal hump" is not tied to the Moon due to the lag behind the tidal hump due to the friction of the water with the ocean floor.


Even if the tides fall behind the moon, it is still tied to the frequency of the moon, because this lag is constant - it ranges between 90 ° and 0 °.
I suggest you read the link again and try to understand it.

Pay attention also to the link: "Instead of circulating around the world, the tide wave breaks down into numerous smaller cells called amphidrome systems. Within each cell, the tide wave revolves around the amphidrome point. "

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Colin2B writes.
Pay attention also to the link: "Instead of circulating around the world, the tide wave breaks down into numerous smaller cells called amphidrome systems. Within each cell, the tide wave revolves around the amphidrome point. "

This is mythology, for those who blindly believe in the printed word.
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/Ellie_Boyce/dynamic.htm

[Bored chemist]

And on that page it say "For the tide wave to keep up with the Earth, the ocean would have to be 22,000 m deep!"
And I keep asking you if you know the difference between a wave and the tidal bulge.
And you keep failing to answer.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

And on that page it say "For the tide wave to keep up with the Earth, the ocean would have to be 22,000 m deep!"
And I keep asking you if you know the difference between a wave and the tidal bulge.
And you keep failing to answer.

According to the Static theory of Newton's tides, "Moon tidal current" moves from east to west at a speed of 1600 km / h, bending around the Earth for 24 hours, wiping the ocean floor and flooding only the eastern coasts of the continents, but through the centuries it was discovered:

1. "Tidal wave of the Moon" floods both the western and southern and northern coasts of the continents.
2. The tidal wave velocity of 1600 km / h is catastrophic for both continents and marine fauna.
3. That simultaneously across the globe there are not two tidal humpbacks, but more than a hundred, regardless of the location of the moon.
4. That abnormally high tides for some reason arise in semi-enclosed bays, where there is no direct access to the tidal wave. And in the bays open to the tidal wave of tides or not at all, or they are small. http://goo.gl/nZExip

To save the static model of tides, Laplace attempted to suggest a dynamic tide model, providing a delay (up to 800 km / h) and twisting the tidal hump due to friction with the ocean floor. And to show the magnitude of the backlog from the hump, entered the application hours (from 0 to 12).
Although it would be more practical to introduce applied kilometers, then it would be possible to determine the location of the moon, both in longitude and latitude.

But the dynamic model of tides does not answer all the questions posed:
1. As long as the tidal wave makes one revolution around the Earth, the Moon makes two turns, how is the gravitational connection between the Moon and the tidal hump realized?
2. If the superimposed hour is zero, this means that there is no friction of the tidal wave at the ocean floor and the speed of the wave is 1600 km / h, and if the superimposed hour is 12, this means that the friction reduces the tidal waves to 800 km / h.
Why in one area is the friction of the tidal wave at the bottom of the ocean and in another area.
Why the average speed of a tidal wave in the immobile water of the Fundy Bay is about 10 km / h.

[Kryptid]

2. The tidal wave velocity of 1600 km / h is catastrophic for both continents and marine fauna.

I see this guy still doesn't understand what a tidal bulge actually is.

Are you guys sure you want to keep debating with this brick wall?

[Colin2B]

I see this guy still doesn't understand what a tidal bulge actually is.

Are you guys sure you want to keep debating with this brick wall?

I think you are right, we are wasting our time.

Particularly when he askes:

What kind of wave are you writing,
lunar or maelstrom.

Doesn’t even know what a maelstrom is.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

And on that page it say "For the tide wave to keep up with the Earth, the ocean would have to be 22,000 m deep!"
And I keep asking you if you know the difference between a wave and the tidal bulge.
And you keep failing to answer.

I know

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

1. Why the height of the tides in the White Sea is 100 times greater than in the Baltic Sea.
The height of the tides in the Baltic Sea is 10 cm, and in the White Sea 10 meters.

2. Why the height of the tides, on the west coast of the Nova Scotia Peninsula (the Bay of Fundy) is 20 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

3. Why the height of the tides on the western coast of the peninsula of Kamchatka is 25 times greater than on the eastern coast of the peninsula, but it should be all the opposite (where the logic is).

You have yet to explain why you think the behaviour should be different from that observed.
You say "but it should be all the opposite", but you don't say why.

4. How to explain the fact that in south-western Australia in the port of Fremantle, tides for half a year disappear.

I can find no support for the idea that this happens. Please cite some evidence that the effect is real.

5. Once a year in the delta of the Northern Dvina, the tides mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature (the White Sea).

Again, I can't find evidence for this
On the other hand, I did find a report into the tide/ current there.
https://iwaponline.com/jh/article-abstract/20/4/798/38904/Flow-dynamics-in-large-tidal-delta-of-the-Northern?redirectedFrom=fulltext

If they had found anything anomalous, that fact would be mentioned in the abstract. yet it isn't.

Admit that you can not answer these questions, relying on the lunar theory of tides.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Dynamic Theory of Tides
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/Ellie_Boyce/dynamic.htm
Instead of circumnavigating the world, the tide wave is broken up into numerous smaller cells, called amphidromic systems. Within each cell, the tide wave circles around an amphidromic point.