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Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?

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Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?
« on: 14/08/2018 11:05:53 »
The city of Leeds is setting up a heat distribution system that will send waste heat - via hot water - from an incinerator plant to local homes. This is being billed as a big step forward and an advance in cleaner, greener, more sustainable living.

https://www.ukconstructionmedia.co.uk/news/launch-leeds-heat-network/

But I remember my Dad doing an Open University course in the early 1990s on combined heat and power infrastructure, and a woman studying with me in Cambridge in the mid 90s was from Moscow where she said this sort of shared heat infrastructure was the norm - and great until it broke down...
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Re: Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?
« Reply #1 on: 14/08/2018 14:36:30 »
I seem to recall that this is also done in Canada & Alaska.
West Dean College nr Chichester uses waste wood to heat the campus.
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Re: Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?
« Reply #2 on: 14/08/2018 16:30:00 »
Standard practice in Sweden. Power stations get rid of waste heat principally by supplying free domestic hot water. (They also supply 3-phase power to most houses, making  high load distribution for cookers and washing machines more efficient if somewhat difficult for other European manufacturers to compete).

I think one of the earliest Combined Heat and Power installations was in London where a power station (Battersea? Lots Road) on the south side of the Thames supplied heat to a block of luxury flats (Dolphin Square?) on the north side from the 1930s to the 1960s.
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Re: Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?
« Reply #3 on: 14/08/2018 16:52:20 »
Well, for comparison, solar power was invented in 1839 and wind power in 1887, there's nothing new under the sun!
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Re: Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?
« Reply #4 on: 14/08/2018 18:40:13 »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_EfW_Plant
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Re: Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?
« Reply #5 on: 14/08/2018 18:44:53 »
Quote from: wolfekeeper on 14/08/2018 16:52:20
Well, for comparison, solar power was invented in 1839 and wind power in 1887
I think wind power might be older than that.
https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/constable-a-windmill-near-brighton-n02657
Or even
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Re: Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?
« Reply #6 on: 14/08/2018 22:12:55 »
FAKE NEWS
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Re: Isn't Leeds Pipes an old concept dressed up as a new story?
« Reply #7 on: 15/08/2018 23:31:12 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 14/08/2018 16:30:00
making  high load distribution for cookers and washing machines more efficient

Why's that? What are the advantages?
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