[seeker3 (OP)]

Why electron and proton don't stick together?

What force is between them? How strong?

[Kryptid]

Why electron and proton don't stick together?

This is like the fourth time or so that you've asked that question. The answer has not changed since then.

What force is between them?

Electromagnetic.

How strong?

I don't know what the exact force is in newtons. I'd probably either have to calculate it or see if someone else has already.

EDIT: It's about 0.036 newtons.

[seeker3 (OP)]

The attraction force between 1 electron and 1 proton is F=Ke x pq/R^2.

It is the strongest attraction force in nature.

How can they don't stick together?

What is exactly mechanism?

Please don't quote, just put up the logic and theory in simple words.

[Kryptid]

It is the strongest attraction force in nature.

No it isn't. The strong nuclear force is stronger.

How can they don't stick together?

What is exactly mechanism?

As I said, this has already been answered in past threads.

[seeker3 (OP)]

How strong force works? What kind charge it carry? How much?

What's its force carrier? How much mass it has?

[Kryptid]

How strong force works?

It works on two levels: one inside of baryon particles and one between baryon particles. Inside the particles, quarks exchange gluon particles. Those gluons produce the attractive force that holds the baryon together. Between two baryons, the force is mediated by meson particles instead.

What kind charge it carry?

The gluons carry color charge (it doesn't actually have anything to do with color, that is just the name given to it). The mesons don't have net color charge, but they do carry gluons inside of them.

How much?

It generally isn't measured in quantities, since almost all objects have no net color charge. It's better to ask what colors a particular gluon is carrying.

What's its force carrier?

Gluons and mesons.

How much mass it has?

Gluons have no set mass (it varies with energy), whereas mesons have a mass that strongly depends on which kind of meson it is.

[seeker3 (OP)]

I cannot see any logic in that story.

Is this science or joke?

[Kryptid]

I cannot see any logic in that story.

Probably because you haven't actually bothered to study it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_force

Is this science or joke?

It's verified science. Plenty of particle experiments have borne it out.

[seeker3 (OP)]

The biggest mistake in science is the standard model of atomic structure theory.

Theory says 1 electron and 1 proton can form a hydrogen atom. This is impossible.

There is only 1 force F=Ke x re/R^2 existing between those two opposite charged particles, the only motion possible is acceleration toward each other on a straight line, collide and stick together. Like two magnets attract each other and stick together, like apples full on Earth. Electron is impossible to orbit or wave or cloud proton to form a stable atom, there is no such mechanism.

Theory says atoms are 99.99% empty space. This is impossible, because matter is not 99% compressible.

Why those simple facts are not in textbooks? Because science is still controlled religion.

Before we truly understood atomic structure, we can not understand the universe, all theories are just theories.


The second mistake is light speed in vacuum space is 3x10^8 m/s.

Relativity, QM, cosmology are all based on light speed in vacuum space is C.

In fact, light only exists in matter/air/water/medium, there is no light, no photon or EM wave traveling in space at light speed. Light only exists in hot plasma on the Sun and atmosphere on Earth.

Energy must coexist with matter. Light teleport from matter to matter, propagate in medium at light speed. Light speed is the rate of induction of electrostatic force in the medium.

We can measure light speed in a vacuum glass bottle using MIT10 trillion frame per second camera to prove light speed in vacuum is infinite.

But no scientists will do it. Light speed in vacuum is infinite to scientists is equal to their God is fake. The whole modern physics is based on light speed in vacuum is 3x10^8 m/s.

All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?' Nowadays every Tom, D i c k and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. -Albert Einstein 1954

There is no photon particle existing. Light only exists in the hot plasma on the Sun and atmosphere on Earth, there is no light, no photon, no EM wave traveling in space at light speed. All scientists are wrong.

[Kryptid]

There you go repeating your anti-science gibberish as usual.

[seeker3 (OP)]

The truth is out

Time will tell

All is great

Have a great day!

[seeker3 (OP)]

Search gravity defying technology on youtube, find this comment, very interesting.


SpaceManAus
2 months ago (edited)
I have seen two man made anti-gravity vehicles made here in Australia back in 1974 one was made by the Victorian Railway in Melbourne and the other was by the military, I got to see a book for a moment that a friends dad had about the one made by the military for a moment, but my friend freaked out when he noticed me reading it, but I did read that it used 150,000DCV into anything it levitates.
The one I walked behind had a small nuclear power plant the man was sitting on, it was about 4ft round and 4ft high and was under the 20ft diameter by 2ft thick framework that seemed to be made of angle iron, riveted together and made no noise as it floated away from me.
But the one made by the railway company was the disk shape, it flew over my grandparents’ house only about 30ft of the ground.
I was not sure if I should run or stay, but since the trees had not melted I decided to stay and watch it go over my head, it had what looked like a red glowing ring about 10ft in diameter in the centre with five other ones spread evenly around the outside of the large one and the outer edge of the disk, this was published in the local newspaper and made the paper about an inch thick as it had the blueprints on how to build it inside of it, so anyone that had the money could build their own, they did this because the government would not fund a larger one that could carry 200 passages, they claimed they would not back an unproven technology even though they had flown one around.

I promise you reading this I am telling you the truth and have no need to lie to you, I grew up thinking by the time I needed a license we would be driving around in fling cars and was so excited, if only I knew about suppression and kept a copy of that paper.

This is very interesting. High voltage is the key?

If I have a lab for this, I'll be the happiest man.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Look closely, you'll see levity is responding for everything.

You touch anything with levity.

Levity causes induction and magnetism.

Levity conducts EM wave and light.

Surely levity will take us visiting stars.

Wonder who will build the first working model?

Spacex? JPL? or YOU?

[seeker3 (OP)]

Wonder if the passenger will be weightless?

Who will be the first pilot?

How soon can I buy a real flyboard powered by Tesla battery?

[seeker3 (OP)]

Gravity limited everything we can do.

Levity is 10^36 stronger.

Conquer levity and we can go far.

[seeker3 (OP)]

In a self balancing bike, the flywheel's angular momentum keeps the bike balance on ground. The only energy need is to maintain angular momentum.

In a fly board, the voltage keeps the board levitate in air. The only energy need is to keep the voltage in the capacitor. 

Use little energy to levitate mass is the advantage.

[seeker3 (OP)]

-   Antigravity   -
Its Potential Will Be as Great
...as the Electrical Industry
 

 

The Biefeld-Brown Effect

Author unknown

Some years ago, Professor Biefeld outlined to his student, Townsend Brown, certain experiments which led to the discovery of the phenomenon now known as the Biefeld-Brown effect. Further, these experiments helped to define the inter-relationship of electrical and gravitational fields. This coupling effect parallels electricity and magnetism.

This means that from the technical and commercial aspects, the Biefeld-Brown effect has potentialities for future development and exploitation at least as great as the present electrical industry -probably much more so!

Consider that electromagnetism is basic to electric generators and motors, power production and distribution, radio, television, radar, telephones, etc., and is indispensibly linked to all forms of commercial and other types of transportation. Then it can be easily seen that the possibility of a parallel development in the electrogravitational phenomena has almost unlimited prospects !!!

The original experiments conducted by Townsend Brown, as suggested by Professor Biefeld, concerned the behavior of a condenser when charged with electricity. The first startling result was that if placed in a free suspension with the poles horizontal, the condenser, when electrically charged, showed a forward thrust toward the positive pole !!! When the polarity was reversed, it caused a reversal of the direction of thrust. The experiment was set up in this manner:

The gravity-control effect of vertical thrust is demonstrated by balancing a condenser on a beam balance and then charging it. Upon charging, if the positive pole is pointed upward, the condenser moves upward. Conversely, if the charge is reversed, and the positive pole is pointed downward, the condenser thrusts down. The experiment is set up as follows:

These two simple experiments demonstrate what is now known as the Biefeld-Brown effect. This then is a method of eventually controlling gravity for man's use.

The intensity or magnitude of the effect is determined by five known factors, namely:

1.) The separation of the plates of the condenser - the closer the plates, the greater the effect.

2.) The ability of the material between the plates to store electrical energy in the form of elastic stress. A measure of this ability is called the 'K' factor of the material. The higher the 'K', the greater the Biefeld-Brown effect.

3.) The area of the condenser plates - the greater area giving the greater effect.

4.) The voltage difference between the plates - the greater the voltage, the greater the effect.

5.) The mass of the material between the plates - the greater the mass, the greater the effect.

It is this fifth factor which is unexplainable from the electromagnetic aspect, and which apparently provides the connection with gravitation.

Now that the basic concept of electrogravitation has been presented in the form of the Biefeld-Brown effect, we can now present the refinements necessary to accomplish the desired goal of a vehicle powered by a gravity-control (antigravity) mechanism.

The Earth creates and is surrounded with a gravitational field which approaches zero as we go deeper and deeper into space. This field 'presses' objects and people towards the Earth's surface, and therefore 'presses our conjectured vehicle to the ground. However, thru the utilization of the Biefeld-Brown effect, our vehicle can generate an electrogravitational field of its own which modifies the Earth's gravity field.

This generated field acts like a wave, with the negative pole at the top of the wave, and the positive pole at the bottom. Our vehicle travels like a surfboard on the incline of a wave that is kept continually moving by the vehicle's electrogravitational generator. Since the orientation of the field can be controlled, the vehicle can thus travel on its own continuously generated wave in any desired angle or direction of flight !

The method of controlling the flight of the vehicle is illustrated by the following simple diagrams showing the charge variations necessary to accomplish all directions of flight:

Townsend T. Brown Patents

* 300,311 - T.T.Brown (Nov. 15, 1928) A Method of and an Apparatus or Machine for Producing Force or Motion

* 1,974,483 - T.T.Brown (Sep. 25, 1934) Electrostatic Motor

* 2,949,550 - T.T.Brown (Aug. 16, 1960) Electrokinetic Apparatus

* 3,022,430 - T.T.Brown (Feb. 20, 1962) Electrokinetic Generator

* 3,187,206 - T.T.Brown (June 1, 1965) Electrokinetic Apparatus

* 3,296,491 - T.T.Brown (Jan. 3, 1967) Method and Apparatus for Producing Ions and Electrically-Charged Aerosols

* 3,518,462 T.T.Brown June 30, 1970 Fluid Flow Control System

 

Dr. Edwin Saxl - Electrified Pendulum

An interesting experiment conducted by Dr. Edwin Saxl and reported in Nature Magazine seemingly utilized the same connection between electricity and gravity that the Biefeld-Brown effect uses.

In his experiment, Dr. Saxl placed a torque pendulum inside an electrified cage. The cage was electrically charged with voltages varying from 0 to 5000 volts. With these conditions, the period of the pendulum was noted to decrease as the voltage increased.

Since the period of a pendulum is directly proportional to the gravitational constant, the conclusion is that gravity and/or mass was decreased within the statically charged cage.

 

[seeker3 (OP)]

5.) The mass of the material between the plates - the greater the mass, the greater the effect.

It is this fifth factor which is unexplainable from the electromagnetic aspect, and which apparently provides the connection with gravitation.

According to my theory, all forces are electrostatic force in nature. Gravity is the net force between all charged particle between matters. Therefore the more mass polarized by electric force the more negative charge facing earth surface the more levity. Perfectly explain. The more mass carry the more charges, the more charges polarized, the more negative charges closer to earth.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Levity explained the mechanism of gravity.

Gravity is the net electrostatic attraction and repulsion force between charged particles between matters.

Gravity is induced electrostatic attraction force between charged particles between neutrally charged matters.

Similar to sexual attraction between married couples. Not all married couples **** around, a certain % will. That is why gravity proportional to mass. Matter is much purer than people, only 1/10^36 **** around.

[Bored chemist]

Since the period of a pendulum is directly proportional to the gravitational constant,

Not if it's a torsion pendulum.
In that case gravity is pretty much irrelevant

And, as you point out
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In his experiment, Dr. Saxl placed a torque pendulum

This sort of childish mistake is why I keep saying you should start by learning.