[Kryptid]

No , according to that the BH  has no gravity the face you are observing . it is not ''sucking''

The enormous majority of matter being ingested by the hole is coming in from the sides (from an accretion disk), so any matter immediately above and below the hole would be much more diffuse and thus either much dimmer than the disk or not visible at all.

[guest39538]

No , according to that the BH  has no gravity the face you are observing . it is not ''sucking''

The enormous majority of matter being ingested by the hole is coming in from the sides (from an accretion disk), so any matter immediately above and below the hole would be much more diffuse and thus either much dimmer than the disk or not visible at all.

Bs, now you've just invented an equator on a sphere , where the dark you are looking at would be nearer to you .  A BH is not a flat disk or like a galaxy .

[Kryptid]

Bs, now you've just invented an equator on a sphere

I didn't invent anything. The accretion disk an observed phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_disk

A BH is not a flat disk or like a galaxy .

I never said that the black hole was flat. It's the accretion disk that is flat (relatively speaking).

[guest39538]

Bs, now you've just invented an equator on a sphere

I didn't invent anything. The accretion disk an observed phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_disk

A BH is not a flat disk or like a galaxy .

I never said that the black hole was flat. It's the accretion disk that is flat (relatively speaking).

So let me get this straight , a Bh which we can not see somehow by magic science monitored and kept it still while they recorded information over heck knows how many light year and it just happened to be positioned perfectly with a ''north'' or ''south'' side facing the camera to give you a perfect picture of the disk ?

Additionally it wasn't really done on computer and a simulation produced from inputted data ?

It's not a real picture and you know it .

[guest39538]

P.s I bet that fake chit cost a fortune to do as well ?



Faraday did science , Tesla did science , I have no idea what they are doing but that isn't science . I could of drawn that on ms paint and saved them a fortune , or the tax payer should I say ,hmm,  hush hush .

[Kryptid]

So let me get this straight , a Bh which we can not see

We can't see the black hole itself, but we can see the accretion disk around it and therefore know where it is.

and kept it still

M87 is over 50 million light-years away. The further away something is, the less it seems to move in your field of view. So it would be practically stationary already from our vantage point.

and it just happened to be positioned perfectly with a ''north'' or ''south'' side facing the camera to give you a perfect picture of the disk ?

It actually is tilted slightly from our perspective. The bright part of the ring reveals this, because that brightening is caused by a Doppler shift from the part of the disk that is moving towards us.

It's not a real picture and you know it .

I'm not a paranoiac so I have to disagree.

[guest39538]

I'm not a paranoiac so I have to disagree.

It's not a direct picture , you do know that therefore you know its not a real photo like they are proclaiming .  It is somewhat computer generated imagery from an algorithm that probably would of produced the same picture even if you inputted a Barry Manilow record .

Additionally it is pointless research , not factual , lets make a real BH and then take a picture with a camera instead .

[Kryptid]

It's not a direct picture , you do know that therefore you know its not a real photo like they are proclaiming .

Then images taken with a webcam are not real photos either, since the electrical impulses coming from the camera have to be reconstructed by the computer using an algorithm.

that probably would of produced the same picture even if you inputted a Barry Manilow record .

Please support this insane assertion with some evidence.

Additionally it is pointless research , not factual

It's very important, since it allows us to test predictions of existing physics models.

lets make a real BH and then take a picture with a camera instead .

It's going to be a very long time before we can do that.

[guest39538]

It's going to be a very long time before we can do that.

You'd think ,  I know how to make water go super atomic ,  you might think I make things up and my maths is  malarkey , but my simple math is designed for experiments left as variables because all my experiments adjust .

No one listens to me lol , I also have a plasma device by adjusting a present device .

Not the sort of experiments I can do at home ...I know how to curve space time for crying out loud and it's a joke that bs photos are considered good science when good experiments are not .

[Kryptid]

You'd think ,  I know how to make water go super atomic

What does that even mean?

you might think I make things up and my maths is  malarkey

You do and it is. Your ideas aren't falsifiable (and therefore not scientific) because you either claim that any such falsifications are mistaken (as in the case with your equation miscalculating the energy released when burning hydrogen) or that there is a conspiracy afoot (as in this thread).

[Lance Canham]

Quote from: Thebox on Today at 22:01:24According to that photo the light being detected is emitted tubularWell it's coming from a disk-shaped structure, so of course that's how it's going to look.Quote from: Thebox on Today at 22:01:24additionally in the centre there is no matter as around the edgeOf course there isn't, because that's where the black hole is.No , according to that the BH  has no gravity the face you are observing . it is not ''sucking''  mm.jpg (11.03 kB . 334x225 - viewed 40 times)

Im not having an issue with the pic but I am amazed that we just happened to view from directly above and no other angle. Odds are we should have been at any random angle, instead we just got lucky and looked at it from above.

The box's issue probably arises from the thought it might look like this https://www.wired.com/2014/10/astrophysics-interstellar-black-hole/   Either way I don't think its a hoax but I do think its odd we got lucky to view it from above or if they all end up looking like this (the real pic) then I don't understand something and maybe we all don't That said its not a conspiracy. Accept the pic for what it is and change what you think if it won't fit - if it don't fit its not right

[The Spoon]

Pretty obvious The box is trolling to wind people up. These sort of threads and posters really need to be put in a quarantine thread out of the main area.

[Bored chemist]

additionally the young lady Katie does slip up in interview .

In among all the other  sh1t here, can I just point out that claims like that are probably actionable in law.

[Bored chemist]

Pretty obvious The box is trolling to wind people up. These sort of threads and posters really need to be put in a quarantine thread out of the main area.

We have a "that can't be true" area...

[Kryptid]

In among all the other  sh1t here, can I just point out that claims like that are probably actionable in law.

I find it pretty insulting, given all of the hard work that went into this project.

[guest39538]

additionally the young lady Katie does slip up in interview .

In among all the other  sh1t here, can I just point out that claims like that are probably actionable in law.

No it is not , I can say whatever opinion I wish , its called the freedom of speech .  You should learn some law, I'm presently in study of it .  You'd be surprised what I've learnt already about law . She could try a civil case if she'd like , then I'd request the actual photo image of the BH it is claimed to be . 
She'd lose ...

[guest39538]

Pretty obvious The box is trolling to wind people up. These sort of threads and posters really need to be put in a quarantine thread out of the main area.

You are just another defender , probably work for the department of imaginary concept .

[guest39538]

In among all the other  sh1t here, can I just point out that claims like that are probably actionable in law.

I find it pretty insulting, given all of the hard work that went into this project.

I could of done that image in about ten minutes on blender 3d , hard work or not it is still meaningless .

[guest39538]

Pretty obvious The box is trolling to wind people up. These sort of threads and posters really need to be put in a quarantine thread out of the main area.

We have a "that can't be true" area...

Yes good idea, put that BH fake pic there .

[Kryptid]

You plan on showing us evidence that the picture is fake any time soon?