[CliveG]

The hidden side of Judaism is that the Jewish beliefs see the world as Jew and non-Jew.

Nonstandard meaning of "hidden", I think. It's as overt as Christian and heathen, or muslim and infidel. Or Arsenal (red shirts) and  visitors.

The outstanding aspect of Judaism is that it does not seek to convert or exterminate people of other faiths. "By their deeds shall ye know them" was said by the most famous Jew of all time.

You can probably trace your family back a few generations. Whilst many of the paper records have been destroyed, my maternal DNA irrevocably links me with (almost*) every other Jew that ever lived, regardless of his belief or none, so scientifically speaking you are either in or out of the tribe.

*The few genuine converts include Sammy Davis Jr and Nelson Mandela, neither of whom was under any pressure to join but both were welcomed.

Hidden as in not open or not seen. In Germany the opulence and wealth of the Jewish population was on open display contrary to earlier times when it was more discreet. The Rothschilds had more palaces than all of Europes royalty. One of these was the Palais Rothschild, built in Vienna in 1872 and was a showcase of their wealth. Waddesdon Manor was the Buckinghamshire English showpiece. However, their banking was completely secretive relying on 5 brothers in 5 capital cities and then intermarrying with cousins and then later with royalty. It seems that their fortunes were made on funding war, often both sides. The holocaust changed that and the Rothschilds now maintain a very low profile.

In most of the professions - such as medicine, science, engineering, law, art, politics, and media - there are many Jews who have made significant contributions. There are many Jewish websites proudly listing the achievements of Jews. It is an undeniable fact. When one looks at history, many of these achievers were born into the elite of society with professional parents who could send their children to good schools.

Two examples are Albert Einstein and John von Neumann. They were truly amazing people and likable characters. They share the background of having being taught in Christian schools. Fine with me. Society needs gifted talented people and talented people need nurturing. This did not occur in backstreet poverty-stricken ghettos, as many would have the world believe.

A group of super-achievers  was the example of the group of German scientists forced to flee Germany - fourteen Nobel laureates and 26 of the 60 professors of theoretical physics in the country. Contributions to the atomic bomb came from Robert Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Richard Feynman, Leo Slizard, Edward Teller, Klaus Fuchs, Hans Bethe, John von Neumann, Lise Meitner, Victor Weisskopf – all either Jewish or with a Jewish parent.

Von Neumann was born to a wealthy, assimilated and non-observant Jewish family, and was taught by governesses. He learned English, French, German and Italian. At age 8,  von Neumann was familiar with differential and integral calculus. The school he went to in Budapest was one of the best, part of a  brilliant system designed for the elite. It was run by the Lutheran Church, but the school was predominately Jewish students. The school system produced a generation of scholars known for intellectual achievement.”

But we have the really bad. Murder Incorporated, which was co-founded by Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel in the USA, was as evil as anything could get. They turned murder into a profit making business, doing contract killings for mobsters. Other Jews had to know it was happening and did nothing.

Bugsy Siegel took over a project and built the Flamingo Hotel in Las Vegas, the first luxury hotel on the strip. He was welcome in Hollywood. The Hollywood movie 'Bugsy' has Warren Beatty portray Siegel as a likable romantic semi-hero. The Mafia was organized into a business by Jewish gangsters who got out once they made their money.

My point is that the Jews have fantastic skills of intellect and financial ability that mostly benefit society except when it becomes very unbalanced. But the religion still instills moral values, and those moral values permit or even encourage "us versus them". Usury is forbidden in Judaism contrary to popular belief. But the exception is when the other party is non-Jewish.

How can you justify and defend Jewish religion when it causes inequality and discrimination? Especially among the High Priests of the Religion. To retreat to the tribal excuse is a rationalization. Speak up and reform the religion.

Who are the 1% who own much of the worlds assets? It is likely there are a number of Jewish names in that, but that will not matter to the mob when they want retribution and redistribution. The mob wants a target they can identify. Hence I fear another pogrom on a massive scale if a mass die-off occurs.

[Bored chemist]

I was in the mind of the Ultimate Intelligence

And that's the point where common sense stops.

[alancalverd]

Secretive banking! How dare they?

The first question I ask any prospective banker is "Please make sure that my financial affairs are public knowledge", so I can be assured that my businesses will fail in the true spirit of Christian humility.

Your anti-Semitic advisors (and you seem to be extensively, if not well, informed) will probably have pointed out the extreme bias of the Nobel committees in favour of British Jews from Trinity College, Cambridge. Obvious conspiracy, and so secretive that it makes the headlines every year. 

[CliveG]

Secretive banking! How dare they?

The first question I ask any prospective banker is "Please make sure that my financial affairs are public knowledge", so I can be assured that my businesses will fail in the true spirit of Christian humility.

Your anti-Semitic advisors (and you seem to be extensively, if not well, informed) will probably have pointed out the extreme bias of the Nobel committees in favour of British Jews from Trinity College, Cambridge. Obvious conspiracy, and so secretive that it makes the headlines every year.

No advisors or even confidants. It is all my own personal experience or serendipitous articles and my buying of many books on not just Judaism but any other religious or spiritual topic. I would say that almost all my information on Judaism came for Jewish authors and sources. There are a few Jews who do fight the religion and the way of life and are prepared to do the research and to write about it. One has to be selective and apply common sense. Some of these are called self-hating Jews and are pilloried.

One author (or group of authors) chose to remain anonymous and publish a vast amount of fully referenced material. The site was clearly hacked with Swastikas and hate speech although it was clear it was meant to have just the one publication. The tone of the document was quite antisemitic despite the attempt to remain factual. Yes, that Jew was not a happy person because they felt that history was being re-written and sanitized to portray the Jewish people as long suffering victims when they were actually often aligned with the various rulers of the day in various countries.

"Business is business" is a saying I have heard from Jews when they are asked about religion being applied to business ethics. Shrug. You can choose to believe my interpretation or you can reject it as antisemitic. With the accompanying sarcasm.

Issac Shahak's book "Jewish History Jewish Religion" is one of the books I saw and read.

Another is by a psychiatrist named Theodore Isaac Rubin who wrote a book entitled 'Antisemitism – A disease of the Mind'. I was astounded at the lack of understanding. How can a supposedly intelligent man publish such a book?

I was in Brooklyn NY when the anti-Jewish riots broke out by blacks protesting Hasidim block-busting tactics and pressure. I lived close by and understood the dynamics. The characterization of a pogrom was so false I was stunned. The statement was made for political gain.

I take issue with other religions - I do not discriminate except to say that some might have better concepts that others. It is my opinion that it is God who wanted me to learn and guided the path.

If God exists and sent prophets in the past to inform people, why would he stop 2,000 years ago? Why could he not give some people some updated information, and help it spread? I may be wrong but my experience is too strange to think it is all coincidence.

[CliveG]

Manipulation of the news and control of the media is currently a hot topic. The stocks took a beating last week and on Friday the SARS-CoV-2 (the official name for the pathogen with Covid-19 as the name of the disease it causes) was headlines on many of the news outlets I read or watched.

On Saturday and now Sunday the coverage dropped and was a lot calmer. In my opinion there is a global recognition that fear and panic could become out of control. The economic panic is not helpful.

It is a SARS variant, and it could become very nasty. The slow spread is interesting. I wondered since 2009 whether the die-off would be fast and hard or slow and long-lasting. I think it is the latter. God seems to want to give humankind a chance to adjust. That adjustment will need global cooperation and a reduction of bellicose talk and action. But it will be painful and a big change to life as we know it.

My wife got an offer to purchase the house we moved out of. The offer that fell through has somehow managed to get a mortgage. I hope it happens. I was seriously worried in case of an economic collapse. So I got two prayers answered. Slow spread and a drop in panic.

[CliveG]

(snip)
So where's the proof of this claim?

The cell microwave interferes with both.

Tomorrow. It is late and past my bedtime.

You can reread my posts in the topic about cell towers and health problems in the "That CAN'T be true" section. I gave references to the science. You can once more reject it but those interested can look up Dr Martin Pall and the VGCC and cell biology where the pH changes when ion channels open or the ion pumps operate. Pulsed cell microwave studies show the effects on ROS and mutations as well as calcium involvement which mediates the enzyme and cell regulation. There is clearly an effect on MW on cells and it is not good. It logically has to be harmful.

Bottom line is "time will tell".

[Bored chemist]

You can reread my posts in the topic about cell towers and health problems in the "That CAN'T be true" section.

What would be the point?
They still can't be true.

Bottom line is "time will tell".

It already did.
And the outcome is simple.
Science works.
Magic doesn't.

[Bored chemist]

I wondered since 2009 whether the die-off would be fast and hard or slow and long-lasting. I think it is the latter. God seems to want to give humankind a chance to adjust.

If God created a virus that leaves well over 90% of the population alive, and which essentially only kills significant numbers among people who are well over reproductive age then, whatever His plan may be, it's not population control.
If, as you claim, you know the mind of God, you should probably better stop portraying Him as an idiot.

[alancalverd]

I was seriously worried in case of an economic collapse. So I got two prayers answered.

So you could sell the house before the price collapses. I wonder what the buyer is praying for?

[Bored chemist]

I was seriously worried in case of an economic collapse. So I got two prayers answered.

So you could sell the house before the price collapses. I wonder what the buyer is praying for?

He's presumably praying that he gets a cheap house.
But as Clive has pointed out, "spirit" doesn't work that way.

So the moral of the story is that you shouldn't pray for things you actually want.
That seems consistent.
The world is full of people praying for things like coronavirus dying out.
The virus is doing well.

[alancalverd]

religion being applied to business ethics.

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" - a famous saying by the most famous rabbi of all.

Like your man said, business is business, that is, it has nothing to do with religion.

My secretary came into the office one Monday morning and announced that she had just agreed her church wedding date. The vicar had been very diffident, pointing out that she was not a regular attender and her fiancé wasn't even a confirmed Christian.
"How did you get round that?"
"I took a leaf from your book. I said 'Second Saturday in November, 2 pm, seventy-five quid. Do you want the gig or not?' "
Star pupil.

[CliveG]

My wife asked me to read the Tarot cards to see if she take the current offer for her house which is the same one she accepted before. I said that my gut feeling was move ahead as quickly as possible before an economic crash.

This morning I did two layouts of the cards and told my wife that although there was some relation to home and money there was definitely no answer. I said that the cards do not want people using them to make all their decisions and that there are times to think hard about what to do.

This afternoon I took a break from tidying up in the garage and did some random clicking on sites for anything mildly interesting. I came across this site and got a good laugh. I asked my wife to come and also have some comic relief.

At the end, I told my wife that she had just seen a spirit message regarding the house. Sell before the crunch hits. Can anyone see how relevant the message is to the question we want answered? This is sometimes how I get information from the spirit world - a serendipitous interaction from a news piece, a movie, a conversation, a book, or hearing two people discussing something.

So have a laugh and let us see how accurate the information is. It seems SA will have a market crash, and selling the house will be difficult if we wait.

I should ask for donations - visitors to this site are getting a free fortune telling appointment. But making money would be not be the reason spirit would help. The reason in this case is a demonstration of omens and portents - albeit with more direct information.

So far these events have worked for me. In New Zealand, I watched a Indian movie about a man having to deal with the death of his father who appears as a ghost. There had been a long breakup between them. I clearly took it as a sign to make peace with my father and apologize for my actions despite the breakup of a number of years having been engineered by the wife of my younger brother. The timing was right and so was my having to take my father's anger about a bad situation. So much went right after that. If I did not take the advice of the movie to be humble and bear the anger it would not have worked.

[Bored chemist]

This morning I did two layouts of the cards and told my wife that although there was some relation to home and money there was definitely no answer.

My wife said to me "You cannot always rely on your luck". Not luck I said. It is reliable and predictable. Many many times.

[CliveG]

religion being applied to business ethics.

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" - a famous saying by the most famous rabbi of all.

Like your man said, business is business, that is, it has nothing to do with religion.

My secretary came into the office one Monday morning and announced that she had just agreed her church wedding date. The vicar had been very diffident, pointing out that she was not a regular attender and her fiancé wasn't even a confirmed Christian.
"How did you get round that?"
"I took a leaf from your book. I said 'Second Saturday in November, 2 pm, seventy-five quid. Do you want the gig or not?' "
Star pupil.

Strange phrasing " the most famous rabbi of all." Jesus, was my first reaction but I did some searches and once more I had a serendipitous strike. Here is a book I will try to buy or read on-line. Two excerpts. So far I like what I read.

The Great Partnership: God, Science and the Search for Meaning
By Jonathan Sacks

...Science is about explanation. Religion is about  meaning. Science analyses, religion integrates. Science breaks things down to their component parts. Religion binds people together in relationships of trust. Science tells us what is. Religion tells us what ought to be. Science describes. Religion beckons, summons, calls. Science sees objects. Religion speaks to us as subjects. Science practises detachment. Religion is the art of attachment, self to self, soul to soul. Science sees the underlying order of the physical world. Religion hears the music beneath the noise. Science is the conquest of ignorance. Religion is the redemption of solitude.

...The final chapter of the book sets out my personal credo, my answer to the question, ‘Why do I believe?’ It was prompted by the advertisement, paid for by the British Humanist Association, that for a while in 2009 decorated the sides of London buses: ‘There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.’ I hope the British Humanists will not take it amiss if I confess that this is not the most profound utterance yet devised by the wit of man. It reminds me of the remark I once heard from an Oxford don about one of his colleagues: ‘On the surface, he’s profound, but deep down, he’s superficial.’ Of course you cannot prove the existence of God. This entire book is an attempt to show why the attempt to do so is misconceived, the result of an accident in the cultural history of the West. But to take probability as a guide to truth, and ‘stop worrying’ as a route to happiness, is to dumb down beyond the point of acceptability two of the most serious questions ever framed by reflective minds. So, if you want to know why it makes sense to believe in God, turn to chapter 14.

There are many people who are Christians and Muslims who believe that ethics and principles should guide their behavior in business. It seems you do not, and your example shows that some clerics also have money as their God and can be "bought." If I had business dealings with you I would be careful about trust issues.

In my opinion, trust is a cornerstone of society. Despite laws and rules, people need to trust others in their everyday dealings. When a group does not integrate and remains separate there is suspicion. This can be seen all over the world in many societies with groups that do not integrate. The European Muslim is under pressure to integrate. I saw a cartoon by Jim Carey. He depicted Mark Zuckerberg in 2004 saying “People just submitted it. I don’t know why. They trust me. Dumb f**ks.” Zuckerberg’s deception of the Winklevoss twins is a movie. Of course, the twins should have considered that Zuckerberg had a website called 'Facemash' which breached privacy, security and violated copyright. It was not a very trusting resume. Zuckerberg had the business savvy and intelligence and the twins had not tied him down with a solid agreement. Nevertheless, it was pure arrogance, greed and deceit to steal the idea while sabotaging the project he was hired to work on. Facebook is currently under scrutiny for privacy ethics. Zuckerberg is not a good role model.

[CliveG]

This morning I did two layouts of the cards and told my wife that although there was some relation to home and money there was definitely no answer.

My wife said to me "You cannot always rely on your luck". Not luck I said. It is reliable and predictable. Many many times.

Explain please. Or am I supposed to be a mind reader to your convoluted mental processes?

[CliveG]

I was seriously worried in case of an economic collapse. So I got two prayers answered.

So you could sell the house before the price collapses. I wonder what the buyer is praying for?

The buyer wants the house because of the prime location to good schools. They pray they get it. It may still be right for them. It is on the low end of the valuations we got and we could maybe do better but...

[Bored chemist]

This morning I did two layouts of the cards and told my wife that although there was some relation to home and money there was definitely no answer.

My wife said to me "You cannot always rely on your luck". Not luck I said. It is reliable and predictable. Many many times.

Explain please. Or am I supposed to be a mind reader to your convoluted mental processes?

It really isn't convoluted.
You say it always works.
And you say it doesn't always work.

[CliveG]

This morning I did two layouts of the cards and told my wife that although there was some relation to home and money there was definitely no answer.

My wife said to me "You cannot always rely on your luck". Not luck I said. It is reliable and predictable. Many many times.

Explain please. Or am I supposed to be a mind reader to your convoluted mental processes?

It really isn't convoluted.
You say it always works.
And you say it doesn't always work.

Yes it works. I said that there are times the answer is "No Answer". It is not a wrong answer.

[Bored chemist]

This morning I did two layouts of the cards and told my wife that although there was some relation to home and money there was definitely no answer.

My wife said to me "You cannot always rely on your luck". Not luck I said. It is reliable and predictable. Many many times.

Explain please. Or am I supposed to be a mind reader to your convoluted mental processes?

It really isn't convoluted.
You say it always works.
And you say it doesn't always work.

Yes it works. I said that there are times the answer is "No Answer". It is not a wrong answer.

Giving no answer is not working.

[CliveG]

This morning I did two layouts of the cards and told my wife that although there was some relation to home and money there was definitely no answer.

My wife said to me "You cannot always rely on your luck". Not luck I said. It is reliable and predictable. Many many times.

Explain please. Or am I supposed to be a mind reader to your convoluted mental processes?

It really isn't convoluted.
You say it always works.
And you say it doesn't always work.

Yes it works. I said that there are times the answer is "No Answer". It is not a wrong answer.

Giving no answer is not working.

You make up definitions to suit your agenda. Sigh!

Contact is made with the spirit world. You do not have to like the response. The reason there was no Tarot card answer was that the spirits had decided to use an omen to do a better communication. If you set the confidence factor in any experiment to be a perfect score the bar would be so high that nothing would be proved. Have I effectively communicated to you? Even if I got answers 80% of the time, would that prove to you that spirit communication happens? If spirit communication happens then God exists.

BTW - The realtor was quite worried about the effect of the corona virus on house sales. He hoped it would be short-lived - 3 months or less.