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The Hebrews had always maintained their language in Israel. Their own TANACH.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 28/09/2019 14:03:21The Hebrews had always maintained their language in Israel. Their own TANACH.It's a book.So is Lord of the rings.
It's still a book.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2019 16:03:27It's still a book.The TANACH is non fiction. People lived by it, wrote it, fulfilled it... It has a consistency, such as a lead up to a Messiah figure, that the Jews don't accept. We have to agree to disagree, because the writings of the Bible are about a God, you don't believe exists but some other scientists do and a lot of other people, like Lawyers and accountants...
Do you realise that I don't care very much about the church- Catholic or otherwise.So it doesn't matter to me that one old book is different from another old book.Neither of them is evidence- for the same reason that the Lord of the rings is not evidence of hobbits and elves.
If one postulates that the Prime Cause is an intelligent entity then that explains the drive of evolution towards intelligence.
Quote from: CliveG on 29/09/2019 07:43:19If one postulates that the Prime Cause is an intelligent entity then that explains the drive of evolution towards intelligence.And, since almost all life is not on an evolutionary path to intelligence, we can reject the postulate.
You can apply the scientific method easily to the question.Suggest one unique, predictive, testable property or function of your god. Then test it.
What about Schrodingers cat in the box?
The motor for the flagellum on certain bacteria. ... the various cells must replicate and divide in a startling path in order to arrive at the end result.
First, your definition of "intelligence".
And define "almost all".
Not "WE can reject" but "I [you] can reject". You are an opinion of one. You bring a blunderbuss to a debate of the highest order.
Quote from: alancalverd on 29/09/2019 12:40:41You can apply the scientific method easily to the question.Suggest one unique, predictive, testable property or function of your god. Then test it.I don't think God will give us a portion of his presence to test. Knowing and trusting are alternate to each other. Imagine a baby who will not trust dad, learn from dad, infer from dad unless it is proven under tests. Fast paced love and friendship cannot take place. You can't be filled with all knowledge if you do not trust the holy one when you recognize him. All the info is not trusted as well. All knowledge and wisdom and prophecy is invalid and even if you see an angel you don't know what to make of it.You can have evidence in prophecy, and you can experience God's presence, drink it in, but that is after trusting usually. After an near death experience, many people return to life knowing there is an afterlife and spirit and soul and other entities like God, angels and demons. But they can't prove it to anyone else.
I began living in a farm cottage which I realized had a bad spirit causing daily problems.
All knowledge and wisdom and prophecy is invalid and even if you see an angel you don't know what to make of it.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 29/09/2019 13:43:00All knowledge and wisdom and prophecy is invalid and even if you see an angel you don't know what to make of it.Perhaps I'll ask about some unsolved problems in mathematics and get 1 million dollar of easy money.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_Problems