[alancalverd]

There's little point in doubting the historical aspects of the New Testament. Confused, but fairly consistent with what we know of the period from other sources. It's the latterday garbage that christians hang onto it that is so absurd, along with Revelations. And it is worth remembering that the Triune Deity was invented by the Council of Nicea in AD325 - a typical "committee  horse" that looks like a deformed camel.

[duffyd]

There's little point in doubting the historical aspects of the New Testament. Confused, but fairly consistent with what we know of the period from other sources. It's the latterday garbage that christians hang onto it that is so absurd, along with Revelations. And it is worth remembering that the Triune Deity was invented by the Council of Nicea in AD325 - a typical "committee  horse" that looks like a deformed camel.

Al's humor is a little out there. The N.T. was written 200 years after when, Al? Note his urgency to imitate Usain Bolt.

[duffyd]

There's little point in doubting the historical aspects of the New Testament. Confused, but fairly consistent with what we know of the period from other sources. It's the latterday garbage that christians hang onto it that is so absurd, along with Revelations. And it is worth remembering that the Triune Deity was invented by the Council of Nicea in AD325 - a typical "committee  horse" that looks like a deformed camel.

Al's humor is a little out there. The N.T. was written 200 years after when, Al? Note his urgency to imitate Usain Bolt.

It is worth bearing in mind that I have been correct 100% of the time predicting Al would not respond to my questions challenging his assertions about the N.T.  Yet, he continues making them. I will continue to point out that he is wrong.

[CliveG]

Assume for 1 second that multiverses exist. What caused them to exist? Why the Infinite Intelligence hypothesized by CliveG of course. 

Assume for 1 second that multiverses the Infinite Intelligence hypothesized by CliveG  exists. What caused them to exist?

Science accepts the concept of a Prime Cause. An Infinite Intelligence as a Prime Cause is far more simple (hence Occam) than a sudden appearance of dumb matter and energy which has just the right properties for intelligence to emerge. You still have not addressed this issue.

[CliveG]

Watch the documentary "Pandemic" which came out on Netflix on November 2019.

Is it any good?

Is it long and jumps around. But there is excellent information which foretells corona. I downloaded and then did a lot of fast forward to skip a lot of the ho-hum.

[duffyd]

Science accepts the concept of a Prime Cause. An Infinite Intelligence as a Prime Cause is far more simple (hence Occam) than a sudden appearance of dumb matter and energy which has just the right properties for intelligence to emerge. You still have not addressed this issue.

Assume for 1 second that multiverses exist. What caused them to exist? Why the Infinite Intelligence hypothesized by CliveG of course. 

Assume for 1 second that multiverses the Infinite Intelligence hypothesized by CliveG  exists. What caused them to exist?

Science accepts the concept of a Prime Cause. An Infinite Intelligence as a Prime Cause is far more simple (hence Occam) than a sudden appearance of dumb matter and energy which has just the right properties for intelligence to emerge. You still have not addressed this issue.

It makes no sense scientifically to assume that GOD does not exist. WHEN WE LOOK FOR ANSWERS TO SERIOUS QUESTIONS that impact all of us, we don't chuck any reasonable hypothesis w/o strong, intelligent justification.

[alancalverd]

Science accepts the concept of a Prime Cause.

Really? Where have you been for the last 100 years?

[alancalverd]

The N.T. was written 200 years after when, Al? Note his urgency to imitate Usain Bolt.

Sorry, the current content dates from 325 years AD, which as everyone in law and business knows is the system that assigns dates from the presumed conception of Jesus.

I'd be perfectly happy to imitate Mr Bolt, but anno domini has taken its toll of my knees. I'm flattered, nonetheless..

[duffyd]

The N.T. was written 200 years after when, Al? Note his urgency to imitate Usain Bolt.

Sorry, the current content dates from 325 years AD, which as everyone in law and business knows is the system that assigns dates from the presumed conception of Jesus.

I'd be perfectly happy to imitate Mr Bolt, but anno domini has taken its toll of my knees. I'm flattered, nonetheless..

I am so good at predicting what Al is going to do, I even surprise myself. Notice if you will, that Al not only is incorrect, as usual, he hopes to divert attention away from his profound, repeated, silliness. Al, Usain Bolt trembles at the thought of comparing you two as world class sprinters. The poor fella has no chance when the starter says, "On your mark. Get set. "Truth!" No one disappears like you.

No, not 200 years as you said or 300. Not even close, as you know. Especially compared to historical standards, the N.T. was penned almost immediately upon when, Dear Al? You need to figure out "when" at some point. Upon presumed conception? Whose presumption? HE lived according to you. Good luck feigning scholarship. You are batting 00000.000000.

[duffyd]

No offense intended. In fact I love the guy, but I can't bear to listen to Feynman's lectures for more than a few minutes at a time. His voice and style make me nutty.

[Bored chemist]

It is worth bearing in mind that I have been correct 100% of the time predicting Al would not respond to my questions challenging his assertions about the N.T. 

You asked a question, directed at Alan. I answered it.
Is it possible that, because the question had been answered (several times) he felt there was no point answering it yet again?

[Bored chemist]

we don't chuck any reasonable hypothesis w/o strong, intelligent justification.

LOL

[Bored chemist]

A person who was just crucified was hardly capable of convincing his witnesses that he was the risen Savior! In their wounded and sickly condition, they might be alive, but no one would declare them raised in a wonderful new body!

They would see what they wanted to see.
And, let's face it "alive" would be seen as a miracle. Who would have cared about details?

[alancalverd]

No, not 200 years as you said or 300. Not even close, as you know.

You really ought to study the history and authorship of the New Testament. It's interesting to those of serious mind. Drivel and bluster are the stock in trade of inept preachers. The minutes of the Council of Nicea and the King James committee are fact.

[hamdani yusuf]

This article has further shrunk scientific gaps for gods to hide in.
https://www.quantamagazine.org/lifes-first-molecule-was-protein-not-rna-new-model-suggests-20171102/

[duffyd]

No, not 200 years as you said or 300. Not even close, as you know.

You really ought to study the history and authorship of the New Testament. It's interesting to those of serious mind. Drivel and bluster are the stock in trade of inept preachers. The minutes of the Council of Nicea and the King James committee are fact.

1728 and 459. 15 times 3 divided by f over 3 squared.

[duffyd]

al has nothing. he's a good guy. he just doesn't know anything. and he doesn't mind appearing here as a moron. fine by me.

we know when the new testament was written and why and by whom. it is the most influential book off all time. Western Civilization was built upon it. Trolls try to divert. They are so funny. They believe everyone who reads these pages is as stupid as they are.
Al you quickly converted from a 200 year believer to a 300 year Nicea believer. Way to go, bucko. Don't bother me.

[duffyd]

Not to change the subject, but Dennis Rader should not be breathing. What I would give to be alone with him for 25 seconds.

[Colin2B]

A person who was just crucified was hardly capable of convincing his witnesses that he was the risen Savior! In their wounded and sickly condition, they might be alive, but no one would declare them raised in a wonderful new body!

They would see what they wanted to see.
And, let's face it "alive" would be seen as a miracle. Who would have cared about details?

There is a detail here that confuses me.
According to the bible there was no “wonderful new body”, if there was Thomas could not have been invited to place his hands in the wounds.

[Bored chemist]

A person who was just crucified was hardly capable of convincing his witnesses that he was the risen Savior! In their wounded and sickly condition, they might be alive, but no one would declare them raised in a wonderful new body!

They would see what they wanted to see.
And, let's face it "alive" would be seen as a miracle. Who would have cared about details?

There is a detail here that confuses me.
According to the bible there was no “wonderful new body”, if there was Thomas could not have been invited to place his hands in the wounds.

It's just Duffy ignoring even his own evidence, don't worry about it. facts are so passe in his world.
We are still waiting for him to back up his earlier claims, never mind getting his new ones to make sense.

If he was a grown up, he'd do that.
Who knows, maybe he'd even explain when he thinks the NT was written, and by  whom.
Instead, he's going to ignore this, and say something rude- like a 5 year old would.