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Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?

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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #40 on: 21/02/2020 11:58:18 »
Quote from: chiralSPO on 20/02/2020 16:21:33


Rockets don't have to push off of an atmosphere or any such thing.



I don't believe you !  Please provide evidence of a rocket propulsion in a test vacuum?

The problem is relativity which all of you are ignoring .  A constant flow of exhaust gases is not the same as a recoil system such as the gun on a tank .

An object trying to descent onto the moon surface using a  constant propulsion will crash onto the moon as both the object and constant emission is in free fall .

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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #41 on: 21/02/2020 12:04:06 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 20/02/2020 16:34:11
The OP is just trolling for giggles. I wonder who it it could be...

I was born under a wondering star !

You want to play guess who ?

Trolling for giggles or revealing the truths ?

Am I an insider ?

module -v(e)=free fall

exhaust gases -v(e) = free fall


There is no  breaking system  on a rocket falling to the moon , F=ma

module axis -y

exhaust gases axis -y

There is no +v(e) of the module .

The propulsion is not independent of the module , the module and exhaust gases fall as one unit .



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Almost forgot ! You've not explained the camera man left behind ..






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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #42 on: 21/02/2020 13:05:45 »
Admiral Richard Byrd discovered beyond Antarctica a land bigger than America .  He also discovered we are the last of the savages in an isolated reservation .
No different than the American Indians except the outsiders are a future version of ourselves with much more complex technology .   

 :o


Why would the admiral say such a thing about a new land if it were not true ?
 
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #43 on: 21/02/2020 13:08:41 »
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 11:58:18
I don't believe you !  Please provide evidence of a rocket propulsion in a test vacuum?
How about the Apollo missions?
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #44 on: 21/02/2020 13:16:06 »
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 11:58:18
Please provide evidence of a rocket propulsion in a test vacuum?
OK
https://www.space.com/38444-mars-thruster-design-breaks-records.html


But I have a different question for you- how could a rocket NOT generate thrust in a vacuum?
Imagine that I have a tank of compressed air in a big vacuum chamber.
I hang it from a wire in the middle of the tank and, obviously, it just hangs there. There's no forces on it.

On the inside of the tank the air presses on the walls.
And all those forces balance out- there's as much push up as there is down; as much to the left as there is to the right, and so on.


Now imagine I cut a small hole in the left hand wall of the tank.
The air rushes out of the hole.
And, because that bit of the tank wall is no longer there, the air is no longer pushing on that bit of teh tank. But it's still pushing on the right hand wall.
So there is no longer a balance between the forces.
There's more force on the right hand wall than on the left.
There's a net force on the tank pushing it to the right.
That's what drives a rocket.
https://howthingsfly.si.edu/propulsion/rocket-propulsion



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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #45 on: 21/02/2020 13:20:38 »
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 13:05:45
Why would the admiral say such a thing about a new land if it were not true ?

Why has only one person ever seen it?
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #46 on: 21/02/2020 16:36:23 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/02/2020 13:16:06
how could a rocket NOT generate thrust in a vacuum?


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When the rocket and the stick is falling !
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #47 on: 21/02/2020 16:39:03 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/02/2020 13:20:38
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 13:05:45
Why would the admiral say such a thing about a new land if it were not true ?

Why has only one person ever seen it?

Hmmmm , I doubt only one person has seen it  !

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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #48 on: 21/02/2020 16:54:38 »

Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 11:58:18
I don't believe you !  Please provide evidence of a rocket propulsion in a test vacuum?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rocket+in+vacuum take your pick

better yet, you can build some of these setups at home and give it a go!

I dare you to test your ideas experimentally.
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #49 on: 21/02/2020 17:29:30 »
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 12:04:06
exhaust gases -v(e) = free fall

It's not in free fall. You've already been told this.
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #50 on: 21/02/2020 17:48:21 »
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 16:36:23
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/02/2020 13:16:06
how could a rocket NOT generate thrust in a vacuum?

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When the rocket and the stick is falling !

Why did you post that rather than an answer to the question?
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #51 on: 21/02/2020 17:48:56 »
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 16:39:03
Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/02/2020 13:20:38
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 13:05:45
Why would the admiral say such a thing about a new land if it were not true ?

Why has only one person ever seen it?

Hmmmm , I doubt only one person has seen it  !


Why has only one person reported seeing it?
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #52 on: 22/02/2020 08:46:37 »
Quote from: Starlight on 21/02/2020 13:05:45
Why would the admiral say such a thing about a new land if it were not true ?
For the same reason he altered his logbook to make it appear he was the first to fly to the N pole.
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #53 on: 22/02/2020 12:54:13 »
Quote from: Starlight on 20/02/2020 15:57:12
If you do decide to ban me , I'll consider that a victory
As will we all, a victory in sanity...
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #54 on: 23/02/2020 16:53:03 »
Quote from: Origin on 22/02/2020 12:54:13
Quote from: Starlight on 20/02/2020 15:57:12
If you do decide to ban me , I'll consider that a victory
As will we all, a victory in sanity...

Sanity is just an expression and an illusion of ones own perception !

Logic is the application  of information using ones own mind to process that information !

Relativity would not ''allow'' a rocket module to land on the moon safely using conventional thinking .

Additionally nobody as yet given specific thought to the Suns path and the fact that Australia would be down under and observe no Sunlight from a Sun that ''hung'' above a Northern hemisphere .

I'd like to see what sort of backwards answers you're going to provide to this as science is never straight forward .

Good luck with the thinking , can't wait to read the future responses ,

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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #55 on: 23/02/2020 17:46:07 »
Quote from: Starlight on 23/02/2020 16:53:03
Relativity would not ''allow'' a rocket module to land on the moon safely using conventional thinking .

You don't understand relativity, as it prevents no such thing.

Quote from: Starlight on 23/02/2020 16:53:03
Additionally nobody as yet given specific thought to the Suns path and the fact that Australia would be down under and observe no Sunlight from a Sun that ''hung'' above a Northern hemisphere .

It doesn't "hang" above the northern hemisphere. Look up the axial tilt of the Earth.
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #56 on: 23/02/2020 17:54:06 »
Quote from: Starlight on 23/02/2020 16:53:03
Additionally nobody as yet given specific thought to the Suns path and the fact that Australia would be down under and observe no Sunlight from a Sun that ''hung'' above a Northern hemisphere .
Nobody said that the Sun hangs over the Northern hemisphere.
It pretty much spends its time nearly over the equator.
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #57 on: 23/02/2020 17:55:51 »
Quote from: Starlight on 23/02/2020 16:53:03
I'd like to see what sort of backwards answers you're going to provide to this as science is never straight forward .
It was sorted out 300 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrery
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #58 on: 23/02/2020 19:22:22 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/02/2020 17:54:06


It pretty much spends its time nearly over the equator.

That's an impossibility as from the UK I can observe the Suns angle and path , the telemetry not seemingly inline with the equator . 
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Re: Conspiracy theory: How do the oceans ignore centrifugal force?
« Reply #59 on: 23/02/2020 20:04:31 »
Quote from: Starlight on 23/02/2020 19:22:22
That's an impossibility as from the UK I can observe the Suns angle and path , the telemetry not seemingly inline with the equator .
So you have no idea what the significance of the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn are?  Really? 
So you are just trolling you can't really be this uniformed.
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