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The eccentricity of the orbit of the geostationary satellites can be calculated by the following formula. E = Vz / ViWhere Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.Vi - orbital velocity of the satellite.

The solar Coriolis effect is involved in the formation of the ellipse of the moon.When the Moon revolving around the Earth in the fourth quarter approaches the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, and in the second quarter moves away from the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, the Coriolis Solar Force stretches the Moon’s orbit along the Earth’s orbit, due to which an ellipse of the Moon is formed. When the moon is in the phase of the new moon and the full moon, the solar Coriolis effect does not affect the orbit of the moon, because in these phases the moon does not approach and does not move away from the sun.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricityThe eccentricity of the orbit of the moon can be calculated by the following formula. E = Vz / Vl.Where Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.Vl - Orbital velocity of the moon.The Earth’s orbital speed is 30 degrees per month.The orbital speed of the moon is 360 degrees per month.E = 30/360 = 0.083--------------The eccentricity of the orbit of the geostationary satellites can be calculated by the following formula. E = Vz / ViWhere Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.Vi - orbital velocity of the satellite.The orbital speed of the Earth is 0.98 degrees per day.The satellite’s orbital speed is 360 degrees per day.E = 0.98 / 360 = 0.0027---------------The eccentricity of the Earth’s orbit can be calculated using the following formula. E = Vs / VzWhere Vs - "Orbital velocity of the Sun."Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth."The orbital speed of the Sun is 0.00000144 degrees per year."The orbital speed of the Earth is 360 degrees per year.E = 0.00000144 / 360--------------The statement that an elliptical orbit is formed as a result of the mutual disturbance of the planets contradicts reality. Venus moves almost in a circular orbit.The mystery of the formation of the orbits of the planets is in the task of three bodies. http://www.sat.belastro.net/glava2/glava2.php#p1.2.c

E = 30/360 = 0.083

The eccentricity of the Earth’s orbit can be calculated using the following formula. E = Vs / VzWhere Vs - "Orbital velocity of the Sun."Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth."The orbital speed of the Sun is 0.00000144 degrees per year."The orbital speed of the Earth is 360 degrees per year.E = 0.00000144 / 360

The eccentricity of the orbit of the moon can be calculated by the following formula. E = Vz / Vl.Where Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.Vl - Orbital velocity of the moon.

I actually do see the error in my previous calculation. I should have divided Mars' orbital period by Phobos' orbital period, no the other way around. This results in a predicted eccentricity of 0.000464. This is still highly incorrect (Phobos' orbital eccentricity is 0.0151).

Quote from: Kryptid on 21/06/2020 01:54:15I actually do see the error in my previous calculation. I should have divided Mars' orbital period by Phobos' orbital period, no the other way around. This results in a predicted eccentricity of 0.000464. This is still highly incorrect (Phobos' orbital eccentricity is 0.0151).Show your decision, this is too small a figure.

In reality, for geostationary satellites, Vz and Vi are fixed, but E varies.

Show your decision, this is too small a figure.

Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/06/2020 12:17:23Show your decision, this is too small a figure.Mars' orbital period is 686.971 days (22.57 months), so each month it moves 360/22.57 = 15.95 degrees. Its satellite Phobos completes an orbit every 0.319 days (0.01048 months), so each month it moves 360/0.01048 = 34,351.15 degrees.According to your formula, I should divide Mars' orbital velocity by that of Phobos, so 15.95/34,351.15 equals 0.000464. Get out your calculator if you don't believe me.

Everything is correct.

Yusup,There's a list of actual eccentricities here.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricityDoes any of them fit your equation?

Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/06/2020 19:43:51Everything is correct.no.Not everything.What you say is incorrect.Do you understand that we can measure the orbital eccentricity?We have measured it for Phobos and the real answer is 0.0151So why are you trying to spin us some line where it's 0.000448Don't you understand that if your calculation doesn't agree with reality, that doesn't mean that reality is mistaken?

Quote from: Bored chemist on 21/06/2020 19:57:16Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/06/2020 19:43:51Everything is correct.no.Not everything.What you say is incorrect.Do you understand that we can measure the orbital eccentricity?We have measured it for Phobos and the real answer is 0.0151So why are you trying to spin us some line where it's 0.000448Don't you understand that if your calculation doesn't agree with reality, that doesn't mean that reality is mistaken?Prove that I'm wrong, by your calculations.

Prove that I'm wrong with your formulas.

Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/06/2020 19:43:51Everything is correct.Then why didn't your equation give a value of 0.0151 for Phobos' eccentricity?Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/06/2020 20:16:37Prove that I'm wrong with your formulas.It's your formula that has been proven to be wrong. 0.0151 does not equal 0.000448. That proves that it's wrong.

The solar Coriolis effect is involved in the formation of the orbits of the satellites of the planets. When the Moon revolving around the Earth in the fourth quarter approaches the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, and in the second quarter moves away from the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, the Coriolis Solar Force stretches the Moon’s orbit along the Earth’s orbit, thereby forming an ellipse of the Moon’s orbit. When the moon is in the phase of the new moon and the full moon, the solar Coriolis effect does not affect the orbit of the moon, because in these phases the moon does not approach and does not move away from the sun. The eccentricity of the lunar orbit varies from 0.044 to 0.072. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricityThe eccentricity of the orbit of the moon can be calculated by the following formula. E ≈ Vl / Vz.Vl - Orbital velocity of the moon.Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.The orbital speed of the moon is one revolution in 720 hours.The orbital speed of the Earth is one revolution in 8760 hours.E ≈ 720/8760 ≈ 0,082--------------The eccentricity of the orbit of the geostationary satellites can be calculated by the following formula. E ≈ Vi / VzWhere Vi is the satellite orbital velocity.Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.The satellite orbital speed is one revolution in 24 hours.The orbital speed of the Earth is one revolution in 8760 hours.E ≈ 24/8760 ≈ 0.0027--------------The eccentricity of the Phobos orbit can be calculated by the following formula. E ≈ Vf / VmWhere Vf - Orbital velocity of Phobos.Vm - Orbital velocity of Mars.The orbital speed of Phobos is one revolution in 7.4 hours.The orbital speed of Mars is one revolution in 16488 hours.E ≈ 7.4 / 16488 ≈ 0.000448--------------The eccentricity of the Deimos orbit can be calculated by the following formula. E ≈ Vd / VmWhere Vd is the orbital velocity of Deimos.Vm - Orbital velocity of Mars.Deimos's orbital speed is one revolution in 30 hours.The orbital speed of Mars is one revolution in 16488 hours.30/16488 ≈ 0.0018---------------The table of eccentricities of the orbits published on Wikipedia does not show by what formulas the table is compiled.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricityThe assertion that the elliptical orbit of the planets is formed as a result of the disturbance of the planets contradicts reality. Venus moves almost in a circular orbit.The reason for the formation of the ellipse of the planets is in the task of three bodies. http://www.sat.belastro.net/glava2/glava2.php#p1.2.c

Vl - Orbital velocity of the moon.Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.The orbital speed of the moon is one revolution in 720 hours.The orbital speed of the Earth is one revolution in 8760 hours.E ≈ 720/8760 ≈ 0,082

The eccentricity of the orbit of the geostationary satellites can be calculated by the following formula. E ≈ Vi / VzWhere Vi is the satellite orbital velocity.Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.The satellite orbital speed is one revolution in 24 hours.The orbital speed of the Earth is one revolution in 8760 hours.E ≈ 24/8760 ≈ 0.0027

The eccentricity of the Phobos orbit can be calculated by the following formula. E ≈ Vf / VmWhere Vf - Orbital velocity of Phobos.Vm - Orbital velocity of Mars.The orbital speed of Phobos is one revolution in 7.4 hours.The orbital speed of Mars is one revolution in 16488 hours.E ≈ 7.4 / 16488 ≈ 0.000448

The eccentricity of the Deimos orbit can be calculated by the following formula. E ≈ Vd / VmWhere Vd is the orbital velocity of Deimos.Vm - Orbital velocity of Mars.Deimos's orbital speed is one revolution in 30 hours.The orbital speed of Mars is one revolution in 16488 hours.30/16488 ≈ 0.0018

The table of eccentricities of the orbits published on Wikipedia does not show by what formulas the table is compiled.