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Re: where is your consciousness located?
« Reply #60 on: 12/04/2020 14:23:54 »
Quote from: puppypower on 12/04/2020 13:22:32
Consciousness is a platform for awareness. We can be aware of things that directly enter our sensory systems from the outside. We ca also be aware of things that  impact our sensory systems from the inside. In both cases, arousal to awareness only requires the brain stem to be triggered. I can be aware of a toothache by its internal generation of pain and the brain stem. I can also be aware of the dentist, though my visial cortex and brain stem, who is trying to relieve me of my pain.  There are also composite affects; inside and outside, act together, such as projection.
Is it possible to become conscious without awareness? Do you think that artificial/non-biological consciousness is possible?
I still want to know your answer to my other questions in previous post.
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Re: where is your consciousness located?
« Reply #61 on: 13/04/2020 13:40:13 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 12/04/2020 14:23:54
Quote from: puppypower on 12/04/2020 13:22:32
Consciousness is a platform for awareness. We can be aware of things that directly enter our sensory systems from the outside. We ca also be aware of things that  impact our sensory systems from the inside. In both cases, arousal to awareness only requires the brain stem to be triggered. I can be aware of a toothache by its internal generation of pain and the brain stem. I can also be aware of the dentist, though my visial cortex and brain stem, who is trying to relieve me of my pain.  There are also composite affects; inside and outside, act together, such as projection.
Is it possible to become conscious without awareness? Do you think that artificial/non-biological consciousness is possible?
I still want to know your answer to my other questions in previous post.

The idea of being conscious without awareness is possible, Humans have two centers of consciousness. The ego is the center of the conscious mind and the inner self is the center of the unconscious mind. Subliminal things, may not arouse the attention of the conscious mind, but will still be conscious to the inner self. Hypnosis could be used to increase the awareness of the ego to some of these subliminal things; after the fact. My research appeared to show that developing a rapport with the inner self will cause it to arouse the ego of things it would normally be unconscious of. The ego is part of the brain;s energy economy and its cooperation would be part of the needed optimization. But the ego has choice and will power apart from the inner self and can also have th reverse affect.

Animals are conscious. The have no ego, but they do have an inner self. Their awareness and reactions are governed by instinct filtered through the inner self; operating system. The exception appears to be some domesticated animals. A domesticated dog appears to have a virtual secondary center, that can be induced by humans. The toy poodle can learn to act like a baby; virtual secondary, to assist with the needs of the owner in real time. They can become aware of owner's subtle cues and participate and even initiate the learned intersections. This can appear very unified and integrated to the observer, but it not part of their instinct. Left to their own devices their inner self will make them more ferrel.

The human ego, on the other hans, is innate to human DNA and will exist apart from a virtual platform. It may have been virtual, when it first evolved; inner self generated. There appears to be a virtual tertiary center in humans. This is called the persona, or mask of the ego. Cultural and the individual can train the persona, until the mask appears natural; actor. The mask of the ego is not the ego. I never develop the mask so I may be odd that way. I went the other way; inner self.

As far as biological and machine intelligence and consciousness, consciousness can be traced to the physical-biochemistry of the brain. This physical biochemistry included the many properties of water. Consciousness has more in common with the fluid nature of water than the fixed natural of organic structures. In a sense, even a cell is conscious and can be aroused by stimulus. It does not think, but will it react based on integrated potentials within its own make-up. The brain scales this up as a dedicated organ platform.

As far as machine consciousness, this is possible, but it will not be achieved by using the hardware that is currently being used. What we will get will be increasingly clever automatons that can increasingly exist below the threshold of conscious awareness; ego can't see the hidden wires. The magician can levitate his lovely assistant.

The reason is, computer memory is based on binary switches; on-off. Although there is development of a tertiary platform of -1, 0,1. Synapses are more than an on-off or binary or tertiary switch. They use neurotransmitters which can make a synapse easier or harder to fire. The synapse is more like a variable switch, that has way more than two or three settings. It could be higher than 10. This variable setting allows our memory to become organized as superimposed layers, with activation of each layer, based on the neurotransmitters settings being used. What is useful about this is each layer has access to the entire brain and the layering helps the ego focus on the data at the top of memory layering priority. If we get hungry, food needs get the top memory priority. Other layers can be accessed but are not at the top. This would be a huge advancement in computer memory.

Another difference are neurons are induced to highest potential,  by the pumping and exchanging of cations by ion pumps. The brain uses 90% of its energy pumping and exchanging ions. As this high potential is reached in the neurons, neurons will fire and/or be induced to fire to lower the potential. Computer memory is designed to maintain a low energy profile, unless we need to access the memory. This is needed for long term storage, If we designed computer memory to mimic neural memory, the rest memory would be at highest potential, thereby making it unstable always ready to fire, even spontaneously in storage. The result is stored memory would change, by itself, over time. In the brain, this spontaneous firing of memory, and the release of energy is fuel for consciousness. The restoration is constantly induced by the neurons.

in humans, our memory is stored at high energy, as the ion pumps create memory potential. Firing is a way to lower the potential, in a thermodynamics sense. The release of energy and the increase in entropy; ions merging, creates awareness of the memory and adds a wild card in terms of thermodynamically useful change. The neurons quickly restore the potential for another cycle. Consciousness exist in this flux of firing memory, real time awareness of change, and the perpetual renewal of the potential.

The inner self appears to exist in the thalamus region of the brain, located in the core of the brain. The thalamus is most wired part of the brain. All memory-energy-entropy flux goes through there. It is aware, before formal awareness of the ego, triggered by the flux to the brain stem. The inner self sends signals to the brain stem, if the ego needs to be part of the activity. 
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Re: where is your consciousness located?
« Reply #62 on: 13/04/2020 15:34:38 »
Part 3

Let me continue on with my research bio. After the 1000 fold distillation and reintegration process ended, I was back to normal and happy, once again, I had escaped in one piece. The exercises had become exhausting ,so I took about a month off, totally detached from the research. 

When I felt good I decided to reach out and share my data with the science community. I was well read in Jungian Psychology and my accomplishment was pioneering. I expected  a warm reception. In the end, it was met with doubt and suspicion, since I was not a psychologist or psychiatrist, by education or trade. I was a Chemical Engineer by trade. At the same time, being an introvert and not an extrovert. with a good line of feel good bull, I could not get the system to loosen up, be objective and ask questions. 

This was very disappointing, so I decided to stop the research, since further effort and risk was going to be for nothing. In my mind, I stopped everything to go on with my life. But the inner self had other plans, below the threshold of my conscious awareness. Before, when I was consciously making a research effort, to sense the inner self, I was conscious of subtle things. But having resolved to stop, I was much less conscious of the signs of change.

After stopping, I had more time on my hands and decided to play with my inner self rapport, to help pass time. It was more enjoyable than watching TV.  It was during this time I learned or was shown by the inner self, how to create a dictionary oracle to speed up the connection. I could take a standard collegiate dictionary and randomly flip the pages, and then point to a word, to answer my question; synchronicity. This is part of the reason, to this day I don't like statistics. It can work but this is a prosthesis that can get the better of you, and make you less rational.

I used to do some oracle demonstrations for friends and some women I would meet, since females  seemed to allow me to make the oracle work best in public. Alone, this past time became a way to  expedite communication with the inner self. This was more about personals things and was not considered research. It was not trippy or compulsive, but like looking at a personal horoscope.

After about a year or so,  I decided to use my rapport and oracle, to see how the inner self would react to the mysteries of science and knowledge. The idea was to give the inner self open ended problems, where there was no hard and fast solution For example, how did the universe begin before the big bang? I figure I would let the main frame of the brain do the data crunching, and see what pops out. Iy had dawned on me that nobody would ever believe my research, or the semi reliable oracle demonstrations, but if I could give a better demonstration, that might open up interest. People want to see the gismo out side them. A solved science problem might work.

To make a long story short, the inner self came up with some novel ideas to solve unsolvable questions. Once again, my inability  to socially interact in a way to build a personal rapport made door opening impossible. On one occasion, I explained one of my physics theories to a physics professor; relativistic slow down model for the big bang. I got the bums rush. Several years later , my theory was published by someone else; thieves of science. I never complained, since I had change gears by then. In retrospect. my inner self seem to sabotage me, so I would keep moving forward instead of laterally.

One area of human knowledge, tha I decided to use, to test the inner self was the Prophesies of Revelations. This has been a mystery for 2000 years. However, it was right along my wheelhouse connected to collective human symbolism. The inner self seemed to like this problem and offered me enthusiasm and a possible way to integrate the mystery, using the Four Horseman as the core. It would build outward from this hub. 

To make a long story short, this project made me become more and more obsessed . I got to the point of hope and trust, that I quit my job and decided to use the inner self as a tool, full time, for science and religion research. I also found  could use a bible, instead of dictionary, for the oracle. This change led me into a mystical psychosis, that blinded me to reality. Instead the symbolism came alive.

One day, during the beginning of my sabbatical, the inner self showed see; inner awareness, what appeared to be logical conceptual flaws in many existing theories of science. It made me aware that knowledge is built upon the foundations of previous knowledge, similar to building the upper stories of a house. It took me into the subbasement, and showed me cracks in the foundation and cornerstones. The weight being added on top was not sustainable. The core of physics has not evolved since the 1920's, yet they continue to build at add weight. Biology still uses an oracle based on statistics instead of deal with the water, etc.,

In my mind, as I followed the logic, something unexpected happened. My entire house of knowledge, from my science education. all came crashing down. It was like a domino affect, as the broad corer stone, changed other things. To be true to myself and common sense, I could not linger be a dutiful herd animal. However, being true to myself ment, I had lost my mooring in physical realty, because all that which I had believed was gone. I became free floating, with no way to moor myself in knowledge, since the replacement was not yet created. It was of an apocalypse of the mind with total destruction.

The bible prophesies became a way to moor myself; in faith, with me becoming more and more enveloped by the symbolic projections. At some level it became my job; The Servant, to warn everyone of the change that was coming. I also intuitively felt that there was another person, out there, somewhere, who understood and would  use his charisma to make this loss of mooring wide scale  I kept this to myself, while moving forward in my tasks to find alternatives before the other person could act. I felt extreme pressure to act, which only seemed to attract me to the dark side for its energy. The person I was becoming, was the other person.

I cycled in suspension between the two egos; real and virtual. I must have created a lot of brain potential when I lost my mooring anxiety. At times my ego would dissolve, and the virtual ego would appear for my conscious mind. Bit I would cycle back, when I would find hope. My ego was very fragile and could be swallowed up.

In hindsight, law or knowledge of good and evil, has created an unconscious subroutine in the human brain; dark side of law, with a moderate level of autonomy. This subroutine appeared to be what was driving the virtual ego which took a lot of brain energy. The inner self was in control of my ego, which would ebb and flow, based on the energy demands.
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Re: where is your consciousness located?
« Reply #63 on: 14/04/2020 13:36:22 »
part 3

When I started my sabbatical the inner self gave me a hint as to how approach the full mystery of bible prophesies. It made me feel that the warning, at the end of Revelations, "not to add or take away from the prophesies", was not a warning but was really a hint. I asked myself how can I not add or take away and still solve the puzzle? What came to mind was to outline the bible for prophesies, like a textbook, and using just those quotes assemble these like the pieces of a puzzle. If I did this, I would not add; assume anything, or take anything away; ignore other things not consistent with any assumptions. I would let the raw data tell the story.

I hi-lighted the entire bible; Old and New Testament, for anything prophesy, and hired a girl to type these quotes into my computer. I had bought a new computer, that was more or less a word processor; pre-Microsoft. I printed her typed outline, used scissors to cut it all up into pieces, and like a new puzzle, I scattered the pieces on my living room floor.

Little by little, I organized the pieces around the hub of a cross; four horsemen. It took a few months until all the pieces were used. The finished product began with a gospel of freedom and then the prophesies story began. The story was so compelling that it created the urgency that caused the secondary ego from the dark side of the story to appear.

At the time, I was on sabbatical and I was living with a loving girlfriend who emotionally supported my dreams. I toned down my extreme visions for her. She had been one of the women who had been used by the inner self for the cross programing dynamics of the 1000 fold distillation. She was helpful then and had remained with me.

The induced mythical psychosis, because of the story, made me think that her and I were the two witnesses of Revelations; built up on one side, who were to be offered as a guilt sacrifice. Jesus was a sacrifice for sin. Although sin was forgiven, some people cannot shake their guilt. even though theirs sins were forgiven. This was the dynamics between me and my girlfriend. I was forgiven by her for what I had done, but I could not shake my guilt. I felt my destiny was to be a human sacrifice for guilt. I had a vision of dying with a painful cancer, which I accepted. This created stress and shifted me toward the virtual ego from the dark side. There visions of total destruction generated a lot of guilt. Yet, I moved forward flowing in the currents.

This reached a climax about a year into the sabbatical. I had completed the prophesy puzzle, and had also written my first integrated theory for physics, chemistry and biology. My money was running out and I felt now was the time to begin by social debut. This day synchronized with Black Monday in October 1987, when the stock market crashed. I felt my time had come. But nobody would help me. I was nor right inside. My outside world also began to collapse around me. Even my girlfriend, who had been loyal, moved away and then move on. I underwent an emotional and psychological collapse.

At that time, of desperation, the inner self made me conscious of the two egos that had been phasing back and forth. One ego was weak and helpless, and other was evil but appeared strong and confident. I had to choose between the two.  I chose the weaker, which was the proper choice, The virtual was seductive but was not sustainable. This choice saved me from going over the edge.

After this choice, this is when the symbolism became most alive. It also  became projected more outside me. I was now on the perimeter instead of the center, My heartbreak and stress became projected as the Divine woman in labor about to give birth, with the Red Dragon, nearby, ready to devour her child when it was born. She gives birth to son, who is caught up God. She is then giving the wings of an eagle, to fly to place that was prepared for her, while being pursed by the dragon. She was my soul or female side. The dragon was connected to the dark side of law; fire and brimstone. This was the worse and most stressful time I had even felt, since I had no means to protect myself. I did keep a journal.

To make a ling story short, the events of prophesies became outwardly projected, so I could analyze in the third person. This version of prophesies was somewhat different from my outline. It played out  over about the next year and a half. Near the end of the dynamics; symbolized by the coming of Christ, there was a rapid review of my memory, from youth to the present. I was awesome to remember so much so fast. This was followed by a nearly total memory dump and a total shut off of all the active firmware. It ended with amnesia that lasted years. However, I was very peaceful and calm. My ego had been rebooted, but began with no history or baggage; child.  This was the nicest time of my life, which lasted for several months. I was in paradise. 

During the end of the sabbatical, and the beginning of my emotional collapse I had moved into my parents house. Everyone knew of my writings not being taken seriously and girlfriend leaving me. It broke my heart. My broken heart became a way for me to stay under everyone's radar, while the dynamics played out. I was able to maintain a sense of physical security and nursing, while I inwardly dealt with the dynamics. When it all ended and I was calm and euphoric, everyone was happy that I was finally coming out of what appeared to be a nervous breakdown and depression.

The born again euphoria, eventually crossed paths with hard practical reality. I was getting better more practical mined with each passing day,  and knew i needed to socialize more and find a job. However, all I had been through had altered my psyche and mind. I did not know how to fit in without going backwards. I had overcome the collective mind and the contaminated collective unconscious. Going backwards to fit in, made no sense. The analogy is a drunk who gets sober but still lives in a world of drunks. How do you become part and stay sober, when being sober makes you a target? There was no place to go, where I could find others like myself. I was one of kind. Nobody wanted to hear my real story. I took a menial job, where the body would work and my mind was free. I partied with blue collar friends, but stayed below the radar. I found my place where I could slowly acclimate.

The final section will be next time. 
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Re: where is your consciousness located?
« Reply #64 on: 15/04/2020 14:56:19 »
After adapting myself to my immediate environment, in a humble way, I had an urge to think about science and reality. My knowledge amnesia was just starting to go away, but I was still suspicious of the status quo. I was inspire to look at the evolution of the universe from the beginning through life and consciousness.

The inner self gave me the urge to approach this in a helical fashion. I would start at beginning; something similar to the Big Bang Theory, and try to developed an integrated model that connected chemistry, biology, life and consciousness to the foundational physics. One constraint was it had to make this occur very fast, so there was no room for random. In retrospect, I was given the POV of a reference that was close to the speed of light, so from that POV the inertial universe would form as though there was time lapse photography. In many ways, this was a semi-Evolution and semi Creation hybrid approach.  I could see the rapid bulk changes, but without any short term random noise. This was too fast to see.

After I finished the first pass through the helix of time, I would start again from the beginning making tweaks, based on the conceptual needs of later parts of the previous helix. If I needed something in biology, from the last pass, I would make it more available from precursors in the beginning theory. With each pass the model became more integrated and conceptually consistent from start to finish.  The approach was like the DNA spiral mutating, wth each pass; birth, until the finished body appeared.

The main problem was I was doing this in a vacuum, not making much use of existing theory and concerts.  I was depending on the inner self to generate al my creative ideas, internally, without much external knowledge input.  The creative process was very enjoyable, but it eventually dawned on me that even if I was correct, this was so unique and outside the box, that it was dead in the water in terms of a social bridge. I stopped the writing.

It was not until several years later, that I was injured at work and needed an operation for an umbilical hernia. I would not be able to work for several months since my job often required lifting moderately heavy weight; 75 pounds.  I decided to move to Florida, near by brother and his wife, , and live off my savings, which would last me bout 1.5 years. This was a nice change and the vacation atmosphere, made me feel better about life as ai recuperated.

There I met a female friend who infatuated me. My induced desire triggered my brain, and I started to write again. I developed an advance physics theory. This was my MDT theory. I was able to create an integrated physics model, using only three variables; relativistic mass, distance and time.

The foundation of the theory was connected to special relativity. According to Einstein and since proven in the lab, if one travels with velocity, there will be reference changes based no changes in  time, distance and mass. Since the laws of physics are the same in all references, all the laws of physics will need to  tweak, so that any reference changes will be reflected in the altered laws of the moving reference. Logically, all the variables of physics could be simplified, since they are all need to adjust, based only on changes in time, distance and mass. All you needed was relativistic mass, distance and time; MDT, and you could do all the rest.

When this model was done, I found that there were science forums on the internet. This was new to me. I was nervous at first but I received a good reception on the physics forums. This was back in the early days of forums, when forums were populated by open minded people and many experts, who were often teachers, students and professors, all open to the free trade of new ideas. Trolling back then was like trolling for fish. Trolling was more of a way; net, to populate a forum i new members and guests . The lures for the trolling were often controversial topics, to get people to visits and particulate in the discussion. It was friendly sparing. The forums we're not yet as populated by political or atheists-religious trolling, where the wrong PC would make you a perpetual target. They should be called ogres instead of trolls. That whiney stuff ruined the forums. I was a nicer time on the forums back then. My unique ideas were a large trolling net back then and brought people in.

The MDT model was able to generate six universe creation scenarios based on the six combinations of the three variables M, D and T. That model encompassed all the other theories from the status quo. The others were special cases predicted by the model, based whether mass, distance or time potential came first, second or last. 

The inner self also showed my how to make a visual tool that I created on Photoshop. It was like a, ancient mechanism of concentric circular dials, where I could dial the various concentric circles; core to perimeter, to solve integrated problems. The math connections were not there yet, so the dial model was more qualitative but useful. I tried to post a pic from my computer, on the bottom of this post, but it came out as a thumbnail I am sure if this will upload to the server.

The conceptual framework for the model got extremely complex due to the diagrams that were created  before the conceptual model was done. I could not make the very last connections implied by the diagrams.  It reminded me of an episode of Star Trek where Dr McCoy wears this head apparatus so he can do delicate brain surgery on Mr Spock. While it had the head gear on, the delicate surgery was like child's play, but once it came of, he could not remember how he did it. My creative insight had run its course. It started to become more esoteric. I decided to place the MDT model on the back burner for now. After that I send a copy to Washington DC to be Copy Righted so i would have it on permanent file. Science is full of thieves who are good at politics but suck in terms of new ideas, I will get even.

After the MDT ran its course,  I started to look at the pieces and decided to focus on one aspect of whole, that I thought would allow me to make a bridge, hopefully back to research. This was connected to the living state. I had been trained in chemistry, and the chemistry coming back to me. My approach for the living state had been based on the hydrogen proton and hydrogen bonding. The hydrogen proton was there very early in universe. I had not yet settled on water as a way to simplify the hydrogen bonding. Rather I was looking at the hydrogen proton in a more organic centric way, more like the traditions. I did make a contact, and got a review from the NSF via a volunteer professor from an prestigious university in California. The problem was I was trying to do too much. He suggested I needed to narrow my focus. I was still resistant, since my memory details were not yet clear to me.

Things were fine on the early forums, until I started to open up my ideas to other areas, and showed that I also had a spiritual disposition This is when the jackals came out. Back then, I did not keep moving to avoid conflict. Rather I enjoyed the conflict. They could not match my creative  endurance. But this only encouraged bullies to be unfair to me. It eventually required I move around between forums, since I also wanted to do science and talk of other things. But the jackals would find and harass me. I was often suspended from forums, based on the jackets using politics behind the scenes. A fair fight was not possible, even though fair did not matter to me on a good day.

On a positive note, the new wave trolls made me become more sensitive to being so far away from tthe status quo. The staffs had also changed from volunteer professors to those who do not want go outside the box or do too much work. I was high maintenance and therefore vulnerable.

I must have invented thousands of theories since the time I invented the MDT theory. Over the past year or so, my attitude has been to stop creating new theory; develop a new possible angle, and try to narrow down all my ideas to my best set. I don;t feel comfortable initiating new topics, since it becomes work, alone. I prefer to react to the ideas of others, especially those who are being beat down by the jackals.

The staff needs to research the concept of justice and put limits on their henchmen. How are henchmen behaviors acceptable science? Why is this more accepted than new ideas that try to stay in the spirit of science inquiry?

In some ways I was ahead of my time in terms of my fast moving creativity. My intent was good, but my ideas and approach were more like something one might find in a blue sky research and developer faculty neat area 51.

The media has appeared to have become driven by fast paced creativity, but this is based on political agenda; fake or fantasy news.. I never tried to deceive, but was being true to myself, looking under all the rocks.  However, I may have been guilty of building hopes and dreams, since my writing was often very effective. I was not always there, to teach my idea to those who showed interest. I was running from the jackals and myself. 

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Re: where is your consciousness located?
« Reply #65 on: 23/04/2020 08:48:04 »
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My intent was good
How do you define good? From whose perspective?
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Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 23/04/2020 08:48:04
Quote from: puppypower on 15/04/2020 14:56:19
My intent was good
How do you define good? From whose perspective?

I base it on internal energy level perception. If we do something that is contrary to instinct or human nature, that will increase the brain potential. This will dam the natural flow of neural energy due to our instincts. This damming can then give us more energy for the ego. Animals, like apes, rest most of the time. Human can use willpower, to dam the brain for extra energy so we can work the 9 to 5. As one example, if you go on a diet, your mind and body may become more agitated. This extra neural energy can be then be used constructively, to start running each day, to burn off the excess energy.

As another example, say someone was playing a trick on you, and said that the police were at your door and they needed to talk to you. Although a trick, the prospect could cause a temporary repression or damming of energy, since your future could be placed on temporary hold. This will also gives the ego more energy, to deal with the problem. Once you know it was a joke, you can release the energy and relax; lower energy.

In terms of what is good, I do not necessary follow a cultural list,  but rather I observe the impact of my choices, on my body energy, to see if it dams or allows the natural flow. If ti does dam, how much does it dam the flow?

The Holy Spirit of Christianity, requires faith in inner impulses It should feel calm or slightly energized by not manic. This is the only way to judge, in a fast paced unconscious environment of new situations. Things may not always be what they appear. The beautiful smiling women may appear like a god send, but if she causes to much of an energy buildup, she may be a man eater.

My creativity is judged based on the energy I feel. I do not have the lab, to do this the easy way by  running experiments. Sometimes, I will choose the slightly higher energy path, so I can push through the logic and work myself out of the loop. But over time, I look over all my ideas and seek those that are the most calming. These are in harmony with the inner self. It is a skill needed in fast paced world of unconscious research and creativity. 
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« Reply #67 on: 27/04/2020 03:53:04 »
Quote from: puppypower on 24/04/2020 14:44:14
In terms of what is good, I do not necessary follow a cultural list,  but rather I observe the impact of my choices, on my body energy, to see if it dams or allows the natural flow. If ti does dam, how much does it dam the flow?
So, how do you evaluate something that is done by other person/society which doesn't affect you directly?
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Re: where is your consciousness located?
« Reply #68 on: 27/04/2020 11:14:37 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 27/04/2020 03:53:04
Quote from: puppypower on 24/04/2020 14:44:14
In terms of what is good, I do not necessary follow a cultural list,  but rather I observe the impact of my choices, on my body energy, to see if it dams or allows the natural flow. If ti does dam, how much does it dam the flow?
So, how do you evaluate something that is done by other person/society which doesn't affect you directly?

Many years of experience with the collective unconscious and the inner self have given me a good handle on natural versus unnatural/artificial. I respect free will and the ability for the individual to  choose.

I also know some choices are imposed by culture, other choices are manipulated externally through vanity, insecurities and fears. Many people feel a need to conform to group think.  I try to point natural verses unnatural, to provide a second POV.  I do not force anyone to do anything, but I do hope I can make them think and evaluate. I am tougher on myself than I am on others.
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