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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #20 on: 07/02/2021 18:11:24 »
COVID-19 was manufactured by the Democratic National Committee, funded by a cabal of Chinese Zionists and lizards from Venus.  Who needs evidence when the truth is so obvious?
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #21 on: 07/02/2021 21:38:03 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 07/02/2021 18:11:24
COVID-19 was manufactured by the Democratic National Committee, funded by a cabal of Chinese Zionists and lizards from Venus.  Who needs evidence when the truth is so obvious?

Alan you are right, in fact the lizards are shapeshifting and putting out misleading information on youtube. You can spot them as they have trouble keeping their lizard heads from emerging as can be seen on this video, you only need to watch a minute of it to be able to recognise the shapeshifting head. ps under where it says this video is unavailable, click on watch this vieo on youtube

scary
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #22 on: 07/02/2021 22:51:24 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
Still returning to Trump he clearly claimed repeatedly that he had seen evidence covid had come from a laboratory and repeatedly sort to blame China.
Yes.
And he also claimed that is inauguration party was bigger than Obama's, that he was going to build a wall, that Mexico was going to pay for it that the virus would disappear in spring and....
Face it
TRUMP TELLS A LOT OF LIES; THE CLAIM ABOUT CHINA DELIBERATELY RELEASING COVID IS ONE OF THEM.

Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
The report concluded that her tries to Russia and her assistance in allowing Russia to gain a position  in the company 'uranium 1' and so a substantial part of Americas uranium production
Russia has plenty of uranium, and doesn't need to concern itself with America's supply.

Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
Hillary Clinton before the 2016 election had a group investigate her greatest weakness when it came to challenging Trump in the election. 


"The Uranium One controversy involves various theories promoted by conservative media, politicians, and commentators that characterized the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom as a $145 million bribery scandal involving Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. No evidence of wrongdoing was ever found."
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #23 on: 07/02/2021 23:20:48 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
Still returning to Trump he clearly claimed repeatedly that he had seen evidence covid had come from a laboratory and repeatedly sort to blame China.

He also claimed never to have been abducted by aliens who sucked his brain out and replaced it with haggis. But then he banned the importation of haggis, obviously fearing the competition of an intellectual equal, so how can we believe him?
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #24 on: 08/02/2021 02:29:28 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
The hold up is in-of-itself suspicious.

How do you figure?

Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
Trumps cliams he saw evidence covid came from a laboratory

If Trump is the one who said that, then that statement is all but meaningless.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #25 on: 09/02/2021 16:02:57 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 07/02/2021 23:20:48
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
Still returning to Trump he clearly claimed repeatedly that he had seen evidence covid had come from a laboratory and repeatedly sort to blame China.

He also claimed never to have been abducted by aliens who sucked his brain out and replaced it with haggis. But then he banned the importation of haggis, obviously fearing the competition of an intellectual equal, so how can we believe him?

Alan, Trump lies, sure like most politicians.  That doesn't mean everything he says is a lie. It does mean you should be more considerate of the reality that he has on occasion lied.

I'm suggesting he was lying, not that he didnt see evidence but that the evidence he saw came from China.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #26 on: 09/02/2021 16:07:13 »
So the WHO have finished their investigation into the sourse of the covid 19 outbreak,  and they still have no idea where it came from.


They have ruled out the wuhan laboratory as the sourse. Any idea how we could get them to investigate Fort Detrick?
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #27 on: 09/02/2021 16:09:43 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 16:02:57
That doesn't mean everything he says is a lie.

No, but it obviously means that anything he says needs to be back-checked for accuracy. If you can't check it, then you should be suspicious of its truth value.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #28 on: 09/02/2021 16:31:08 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/02/2021 16:09:43
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 16:02:57
That doesn't mean everything he says is a lie.

No, but it obviously means that anything he says needs to be back-checked for accuracy. If you can't check it, then you should be suspicious of its truth value.

Sure but Trump is not the only American official to have made this claim, there have been repeated articles from different people making the same claim.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #29 on: 09/02/2021 16:36:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 07/02/2021 22:51:24

Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
The report concluded that her tries to Russia and her assistance in allowing Russia to gain a position  in the company 'uranium 1' and so a substantial part of Americas uranium production
Russia has plenty of uranium, and doesn't need to concern itself with America's supply.

It was a geopolitical endeavour by Russia to capture uranium production, some senators expressed concerns this could lead to Russia controlling upto 50% of Americas uranium production.

6 minutes long

Quote from: Bored chemist on 07/02/2021 22:51:24
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
Hillary Clinton before the 2016 election had a group investigate her greatest weakness when it came to challenging Trump in the election. 


"The Uranium One controversy involves various theories promoted by conservative media, politicians, and commentators that characterized the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom as a $145 million bribery scandal involving Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. No evidence of wrongdoing was ever found."

That's not the issue,  the issue is the internal report the Clinton campaign held before the election, the report suggested Clinton's ties to Russia would damage her election chances. so she invented a Russia smere to attack Trump with. She also paid for the steal dossier as part of the same agenda.

Starts at 3:40
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #30 on: 09/02/2021 18:53:21 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 16:36:13
so she invented a Russia smere to attack Trump with.
Hillary Clinton did not invent Trump's ties to Russia.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-business-financial-ties-2018-11?r=US&IR=T
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trumps-businesses-are-full-of-dirty-russian-money-the-scandal-is-thats-legal/2019/03/29/11b812da-5171-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html
https://www.ft.com/trumptoronto

The man's a liar and a crook who works with other crooks.

Anyway, back to the point.

Is there any real evidence that Covid originated anywhere other than Wuhan?
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #31 on: 09/02/2021 20:48:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 09/02/2021 18:53:21
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 16:36:13
so she invented a Russia smere to attack Trump with.
Hillary Clinton did not invent Trump's ties to Russia.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-business-financial-ties-2018-11?r=US&IR=T
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trumps-businesses-are-full-of-dirty-russian-money-the-scandal-is-thats-legal/2019/03/29/11b812da-5171-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html
https://www.ft.com/trumptoronto

The man's a liar and a crook who works with other crooks.

So is Clinton a liar and a worse one. Not only did she try to smere Trump as a Russian asset- asset which is not the same thing as claiming conmections to the country.

She also rigged the DNC primary election in 2016 and so stole it from Bernie Sanders.  Seth Rich a disgruntled Bernie supporter then sent Wikileaks the emails that proved she stole it. The NSA the CIA and the FBI all knew seth Rich had sent the emails. Seth Rich was later found murdered by who still isnt clear.

Not only did they all know Seth rich had sent the emails to Wikileaks in 2016 they all supported Hillary Clinton's lie about Trump and Russia and pretend Russia had hacked the DNC.

After this Hilary paid for the now debunked for the steal dossier from Mark Steal.

It's lies on lies, which lead to years of Trump being falsely accused of being a Russain asset. but naturally as trump during the presidential election campaign had called for bridges to be built between America and Russia and a reduction in military spending. Russia gate served to prevent Trump building bridges or reducing arms to combat the supposed threat from Russia.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 09/02/2021 18:53:21
Anyway, back to the point.

Is there any real evidence that Covid originated anywhere other than Wuhan?

That's why you have investigations, there is circumstancal evidence it may have come from fort Detrick
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #32 on: 09/02/2021 20:52:31 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 20:48:13
there is circumstancal evidence it may have come from fort Detrick
Really?
What?
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #33 on: 09/02/2021 20:59:42 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 16:31:08
Sure but Trump is not the only American official to have made this claim, there have been repeated articles from different people making the same claim.

What was their evidence?
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #34 on: 09/02/2021 21:04:00 »
I think the Chinese were experimenting with a new biological weapon, and, by accident, it got prematurely released.

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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #35 on: 09/02/2021 21:16:07 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 08/02/2021 02:29:28
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/02/2021 17:43:51
The hold up is in-of-itself suspicious.

How do you figure?


It's suspicious because a peer review should not take so long. The delay could imply certian interests do not want the truth to come out and are stalling the process.

If covid 19 was in Spain in March 2019, that completely changes the current narrative. And there are interests that like the current narrative
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #36 on: 09/02/2021 21:17:11 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/02/2021 20:59:42
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 16:31:08
Sure but Trump is not the only American official to have made this claim, there have been repeated articles from different people making the same claim.

What was their evidence?

Ask them.
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⁸Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #37 on: 09/02/2021 21:20:46 »
Quote from: charles1948 on 09/02/2021 21:04:00
I think the Chinese were experimenting with a new biological weapon, and, by accident, it got prematurely released.

I think it's more likley out of an American laboratory and probably arrived in Wuhan with the Wuhan Military games that took place in Oct 2019

Everyone who took part in the games should be tested for antibodies.

Military labs produce these bio weapons you would expect an accidental release to hit military personel first.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #38 on: 09/02/2021 21:23:05 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 21:17:11
Ask them.

I don't even know who "they" are.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #39 on: 09/02/2021 21:27:01 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/02/2021 21:23:05
Quote from: Jolly2 on 09/02/2021 21:17:11
Ask them.

I don't even know who "they" are.
You just Google officials claim covid lab created.

The sun:-
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11511043/wuhan-lab-blamed-for-coronavirus-lied-about-safety-precautions-it-took-during-controversial-bat-tests/

"US and British intelligence officials suspect bungling scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology accidentally spread the killer disease during risky coronavirus tests on bats."
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