[Petrochemicals]

Cis is a term used by some to denote a person who accepts the gender of the sex they were born with. So a man who was born Male or a women born female would be cis.

CIS comes from latin and is a prefix for 'on this side of' as trans is a prefix of the opposite side.

So normal. CIS is a term invented by and used by the transexual community. Limey is used by Americans to refer to British people, but being as I am not American I am not party to the use of the term.

[Bored chemist]

So normal. CIS is a term invented by

What's with the CAPITAL LETTERS?
Do you mean this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States

a term invented by and used by the transexual community.

No
Since the fool has set his software to ignore me, Petrochem doesn't receive broadcasts from planet Earth.
Could  someone quote this please?
That way he might learn.

People looked for a word to mean the opposite of trans.
And the chemists already had one, so people who aren't trans are cis.

[alancalverd]

Cis has meant "same" and trans has meant "opposite"  since the Romans decided to write in Latin.

[alancalverd]

Every day Boris takes the risk that someone will point out that he's a liar and that... nothing will be done about it.

In fact, politics is a high-risk occupation. You may be elected in a by-election, serve 6 months, and lose your seat at a general election through no fault of your own. Ministers are selected and deselected on the whim of whoever has control of the prime minister's scrotum, and whether you are regarded as a charming rogue or an utter bastard  depends on how much the editor of the Daily Mail had to drink last night. Survival in office depends entirely on the fact that the alternative is even worse.

[Petrochemicals]

Cis has meant "same" and trans has meant "opposite"  since the Romans decided to write in Latin.

I don't think the Romans where so particular, if the emperors where anything to go by. Prey tell Allinicus, whatus beus theus termusesessss forii sistershaggus or slaveussexussseiii?

[Bored chemist]

Ministers are selected and deselected on the whim of whoever has control of the prime minister's scrotum,

Things are looking up. You have realised you were wrong to say this

your earnings depend on your willingness to take risks,

Cis has meant "same" and trans has meant "opposite"  since the Romans decided to write in Latin.

Aside from the Catholic Church, nobody still writes in Latin.
So that's not where the terms "cis" and "trans" as used in this context are from, is it?

[alancalverd]

Oh yes it is. Not only via chemistry and crystallography where the prefixes are in common use, but cisalpine and transalpine turn up in geography. Also cislateral and translateral in medicine (particularly neurology) and biology. Translate, transpire, transilluminate, transparent....all mean "across" but the opposite is rarely needed. When working in Bradford, I was once invited to visit a client in Transpontine Halifax but I think he was showing off. Et quis non latina dicet hodie? Cur scriptum italicum extet?

[Bored chemist]

the prefixes are in common use

And the point you have missed is that, in chemistry they aren't prefixes- they are words.

[Bored chemist]

I think he was showing off. Et quis non latina dicet hodie? Cur scriptum italicum extet?

Irony; much.

[alancalverd]

Quote from: alancalverd on Yesterday at 22:27:37
Ministers are selected and deselected on the whim of whoever has control of the prime minister's scrotum,
Things are looking up. You have realised you were wrong to say this
Quote from: alancalverd on 25/04/2021 23:17:56
your earnings depend on your willingness to take risks,

I think my statements are entirely consistent. Ministerial posts attract an additional £67,505  on top of an MP's stipend, but you have to take a chance on who the PM will be  shagging (or being shagged by) next week if you take out a loan on the basis of total earnings.

[alancalverd]

the prefixes are in common use

And the point you have missed is that, in chemistry they aren't prefixes- they are words.

cis-2-butene, trans-2-butene. Prefixes. quod erat demonstrandum.

[Bored chemist]

Since I didn't say they couldn't be used as prefixes that was a waste of a post or two.
I said they could be used as words.
Anyone for trans fats?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat#Trans_fat

[Bored chemist]

Quote from: alancalverd on Yesterday at 22:27:37
Ministers are selected and deselected on the whim of whoever has control of the prime minister's scrotum,
Things are looking up. You have realised you were wrong to say this
Quote from: alancalverd on 25/04/2021 23:17:56
your earnings depend on your willingness to take risks,

I think my statements are entirely consistent. Ministerial posts attract an additional £67,505  on top of an MP's stipend, but you have to take a chance on who the PM will be  shagging (or being shagged by) next week if you take out a loan on the basis of total earnings.

If someone says " I might pay you another 80% of your salary for a while- until Boris changes his mind; do you want to accept it?" there is no risk in saying yes.
The "worst" that can happen is that you don't keep your bonus for long.
And if you get blown out, you can always get a non job as an advisor which will pay even more.

There's no risk.

[Kryptid]

Unfortunately that is how the gender pay gap work it's the difference between all the pay of women employed compared to all the pay of men. That's how feminists calculated it.

Source?

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Cis is a term used by some to denote a person who accepts the gender of the sex they were born with. So a man who was born Male or a women born female would be cis.

CIS comes from latin and is a prefix for 'on this side of' as trans is a prefix of the opposite side.

So normal. CIS is a term invented by and used by the transexual community. Limey is used by Americans to refer to British people, but being as I am not American I am not party to the use of the term.

Well I dont think the people that created the terminology wanted to Express negative connotations but it is the case that some in the trans activists community use CIS as a slur. Cis is bad, cis and white worse, cis white and Male is effectively Hilter, for some.

They want to smash the CIStem 😊

[Bored chemist]

Well I dont think the people that created the terminology wanted to Express negative connotations but it is the case that some in the trans activists community use CIS as a slur. Cis is bad, cis and white worse, cis white and Male is effectively Hilter, for some.

Source?

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Unfortunately that is how the gender pay gap work it's the difference between all the pay of women employed compared to all the pay of men. That's how feminists calculated it.

Source?

Why are you asking for a source I already referenced the factual feminists and I'm not allowed to share links.

[Bored chemist]

I already referenced the factual feminists

Where?

[Jolly2 (OP)]

women generally work In lowering paying areas like teaching

So, the prejudice is (as it has been for a couple of hundred years) that teaching isn't a "proper" job, so it's poorly paid.
If it was a real job then men would "have to" do it.

Again, you are muddling cause and effect.
It's not women who chose that teaching (and nursing) should be poorly paid.
On the other hand, it is broadly men who decided that politics should be well paid.

Its broadly politicians that decided politicians should be paid well.

As for teaching compared to other forms of employment, public schools are funded by government, I'm sure teachers in private schools earn a lot more money.  But also other areas of employment are directly related to sales of products and services they produce, it's a different economic which allows for greater returns.

Besides many consider there time at school wasted and a mistake education

[Petrochemicals]

Well I dont think the people that created the terminology wanted to Express negative connotations but it is the case that some in the trans activists community use CIS as a slur. Cis is bad, cis and white worse, cis white and Male is effectively Hilter, for some.

They want to smash the CIStem 😊

They are quite free to use the term, as I say' limey ' ' John Bull' are terms Americans use for the British, particularly the English, I don't use them as I am not a 'Yank', which is a term to describe Americans by non Americans. Yankee being different as it is a term for those on the winning side of the civil war.

term - a word or expression used in relation to a particular subject, often to describe something official or technical

https://www.dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/term