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Is my Model for Particles Correct?

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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #60 on: 25/02/2022 22:57:11 »
Of possible relevance: https://phys.org/news/2022-02-simulate-important-elements-pion.html
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #61 on: 25/02/2022 23:15:32 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 17/02/2022 14:07:55
It's falsifiable: just prove Structure Conservation false.
Quote from: talanum1 on 25/02/2022 19:50:38
Structure Conservation was proved wrong
" Is my Model for Particles Correct?"

Which part of "no" are you not understanding?
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #62 on: 26/02/2022 09:34:30 »
Why is it not correct?
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #63 on: 26/02/2022 10:41:49 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 26/02/2022 09:34:30
Why is it not correct?
Because you are not as clever as you think you are.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #64 on: 26/02/2022 12:10:27 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/02/2022 10:41:49
Because you are not as clever as you think you are.

Please give a valid reason, not your opinion.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #65 on: 26/02/2022 12:53:00 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 26/02/2022 12:10:27
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/02/2022 10:41:49
Because you are not as clever as you think you are.

Please give a valid reason, not your opinion.
I think it's because you are not clever enough to come up with a good idea, but what is your opinion of the reason that you can't (or don't)?

It's pretty clear that your idea is wrong- you said so yourself.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/02/2022 23:15:32
Quote from: talanum1 on 17/02/2022 14:07:55
It's falsifiable: just prove Structure Conservation false.
Quote from: talanum1 on 25/02/2022 19:50:38
Structure Conservation was proved wrong
" Is my Model for Particles Correct?"

Which part of "no" are you not understanding?
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #66 on: 26/02/2022 13:42:16 »
The way of representing the particles is still valid.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #67 on: 26/02/2022 14:03:09 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 26/02/2022 13:42:16
The way of representing the particles is still valid.
Drawing them with crayons is a valid  way of representing the particles if all you want is to have pictures.
What predictions can your model make?

Also, would you please answer the question.
Why are you not able to come up with a useful model?
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #68 on: 26/02/2022 14:17:34 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/02/2022 14:03:09
What predictions can your model make?

It predicts why there are neutrinos, why there are just right handed antineutrinos and why there are left and right handed electrons.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/02/2022 14:03:09
Why are you not able to come up with a useful model?

It is useful.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #69 on: 26/02/2022 14:34:17 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 26/02/2022 14:17:34
It predicts why there are neutrinos
Show us how it does that.
But, even if it does, it also predicts a break of the laws of physics.
So, if you have a model that sometimes gets things right and sometimes gets things wrong, it's not much use because you can't tell which is which unless you have a better model.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #70 on: 27/02/2022 08:50:15 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/02/2022 14:34:17
Show us how it does that.

Anti-neutrinos exist because they come from a π- and because Weak Isospin and Lepton Number is conserved. Why the other properties of anti-neutrinos persist I don't know.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/02/2022 14:34:17
But, even if it does, it also predicts a break of the laws of physics.

Consider that part edited out.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #71 on: 27/02/2022 09:29:07 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 27/02/2022 08:50:15
Anti-neutrinos exist because they come from a π- and because Weak Isospin and Lepton Number is conserved. Why the other properties of anti-neutrinos persist I don't know.
Do you actually think that makes any sense?
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #72 on: 27/02/2022 11:05:52 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/02/2022 09:29:07
Do you actually think that makes any sense?

I can easily make sense of it and I can easily imagine someone else making sense of it.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #73 on: 27/02/2022 11:59:19 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 27/02/2022 11:05:52
I can easily imagine someone else making sense of it.
Your imagination is misleading you.

Does anyone reading this agree with Talanum that this is a meaningful explanation of the existence of neutrons?

Quote from: talanum1 on 27/02/2022 08:50:15
Anti-neutrinos exist because they come from a π- and because Weak Isospin and Lepton Number is conserved.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #74 on: 27/02/2022 12:59:27 »
Neutrinos, not neutrons!
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #75 on: 27/02/2022 16:20:43 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 27/02/2022 12:59:27
Neutrinos, not neutrons!
Whatever...
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/02/2022 11:59:19
Quote from: talanum1 on 27/02/2022 11:05:52
I can easily imagine someone else making sense of it.
Your imagination is misleading you.

Does anyone reading this agree with Talanum that this is a meaningful explanation of the existence of neutrons absolutely anything at all?

Quote from: talanum1 on 27/02/2022 08:50:15
Anti-neutrinos exist because they come from a π- and because Weak Isospin and Lepton Number is conserved.

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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #76 on: 28/02/2022 16:23:13 »
It is my claim that Structure Conservation applies, but that the resulting L0 is removed by the mind of the observer, at the time of the decay.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #77 on: 28/02/2022 17:20:32 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/02/2022 16:20:43
Quote from: Bored chemist on Yesterday at 11:59:19
Quote from: talanum1 on Yesterday at 11:05:52
I can easily imagine someone else making sense of it.
Your imagination is misleading you.

Does anyone reading this agree with Talanum that this is a meaningful explanation of the existence of neutrons absolutely anything at all?

Quote from: talanum1 on Yesterday at 08:50:15
Anti-neutrinos exist because they come from a π- and because Weak Isospin and Lepton Number is conserved.
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #78 on: 28/02/2022 17:59:28 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 28/02/2022 16:23:13
It is my claim that Structure Conservation applies, but that the resulting L0 is removed by the mind of the observer, at the time of the decay.

What does that mean, exactly?
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Re: Is my Model for Particles Correct?
« Reply #79 on: 28/02/2022 18:03:05 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 28/02/2022 16:23:13
It is my claim that Structure Conservation applies, but that the resulting L0 is removed by the mind of the observer, at the time of the decay
The mind of the observer removes the L0?!?  So before people existed your "model" would not be true?  Just checking, are you nutz?
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