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Did it wrong because a trampoline is not a good way of explaining gravity.
Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 17:39:22Did it wrong because a trampoline is not a good way of explaining gravity.The trampoline analogy was never meant to be taken literally.
You cannot use trampoline in explaining gravitational waves and black holes.
I think that the Black Holes that we are seeing and presenting in pictures are not really black holes, probably some stars that we still do not know.
Last three years ago, I submitted (but rejected) to both Nature Journal and SCIENCE Journal an article titled, "All About Gravity", discussing Gravity and how our science and schools did it wrong while Einstein did it right.
Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 18:09:43You cannot use trampoline in explaining gravitational waves and black holes.It's only an analogy.
Why not use a pool with full of water, with two balloons; one is the Sun and other is the Earth? And when you popped the other balloon inside the pool, you can see Black Hole and the effect of gravity... Did you visualize it?
Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 18:09:43You cannot use trampoline in explaining gravitational waves and black holes.Nobody said you could.Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 17:39:22Last three years ago, I submitted (but rejected) to both Nature Journal and SCIENCE Journal an article titled, "All About Gravity", discussing Gravity and how our science and schools did it wrong while Einstein did it right. Is that like your unsupported and impossible claim to have reviewed all the papers about the theory of evolution?
Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 18:31:38Why not use a pool with full of water, with two balloons; one is the Sun and other is the Earth? And when you popped the other balloon inside the pool, you can see Black Hole and the effect of gravity... Did you visualize it?That would just be another analogy. Neither the trampoline nor your example are truly reflective of the reality of the situation.
Quote from: Kryptid on 20/02/2022 18:33:22Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 18:31:38Why not use a pool with full of water, with two balloons; one is the Sun and other is the Earth? And when you popped the other balloon inside the pool, you can see Black Hole and the effect of gravity... Did you visualize it?That would just be another analogy. Neither the trampoline nor your example are truly reflective of the reality of the situation.In the pool, you could explain the grav waves and black holes, and probably predict another phenomenon that Einstein did not see. If you see that phenomenon, let us submit, co-author, to NATURE and SCIENCE.
Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 18:36:48Quote from: Kryptid on 20/02/2022 18:33:22Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 18:31:38Why not use a pool with full of water, with two balloons; one is the Sun and other is the Earth? And when you popped the other balloon inside the pool, you can see Black Hole and the effect of gravity... Did you visualize it?That would just be another analogy. Neither the trampoline nor your example are truly reflective of the reality of the situation.In the pool, you could explain the grav waves and black holes, and probably predict another phenomenon that Einstein did not see. If you see that phenomenon, let us submit, co-author, to NATURE and SCIENCE.Water doesn't behave like space and water waves don't behave like gravitational waves.
@MrIntelligentDesign it's obvious that you know practically nothing about physices.
If you do, what is the best analogy in reality, except the pool with water, with ball or balloons, or a pet bottle (or fish tank) with full of water (but since its volume is small, hard to do)?
Which parts that I did not know? Do you know the bending of light through gravity? If yes, which analogy can you use to explain it in classroom, for example?
Quote from: MrIntelligentDesign on 20/02/2022 17:39:22I think that the Black Holes that we are seeing and presenting in pictures are not really black holes, probably some stars that we still do not know.The black holes at first were deduced by calculations before being observed.
Light refracting through water isn't the same as light being bent by a gravitational field, either. Light of different wavelengths refract by different amounts through water, whereas light bent by a gravitational field does not experience that.
The bending of light was predicted by the equivalence principle.