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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #40 on: 11/10/2022 04:53:44 »
Supermassive black hole can also emit not visible gamma photons by its jets or streams.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #41 on: 11/10/2022 05:08:56 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 04:45:33
Quote from: JLindgaard on 11/10/2022 04:42:02
What do you see on the other side of a black hole?

Depends on what you mean by "other side". Black holes probably look just about the same from all outside angles (except for the quickly spinning ones, which would be oblate spheroids instead of spheres). If you are asking about inside a black hole, then you probably wouldn't see anything.

Quote from: JLindgaard on 11/10/2022 04:42:02
Black holes emit no light.

If they are small enough, the Hawking radiation they emit should contain visible light.

 Maybe we can start here? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249963778_Distorted_Five-dimensional_Electrically_Charged_Black_Holes
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #42 on: 11/10/2022 12:30:26 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/10/2022 22:48:21
This implies that you consider me quite influential.
No. It implies that you are deluded.
You said
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/10/2022 20:47:30
You have to get down on your knees and recognize the theory as such to avoid war.

It doesn't matter what I or my knees do. It's not going to affect whether or not there's a war.
But you claim there is some way it will.


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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #43 on: 11/10/2022 15:03:33 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 12:30:26
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/10/2022 22:48:21
This implies that you consider me quite influential.
No. It implies that you are deluded.
You said
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/10/2022 20:47:30
You have to get down on your knees and recognize the theory as such to avoid war.

It doesn't matter what I or my knees do. It's not going to affect whether or not there's a war.
But you claim there is some way it will.
So if I talk about war between you and me then you think it's Putin's war? I wonder why you made this connection.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #44 on: 11/10/2022 15:41:35 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/10/2022 15:03:33
So if I talk about war between you and me...
If you talk about something that doesn't exist , you look stupid.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #45 on: 11/10/2022 15:42:25 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/10/2022 15:03:33
I wonder why you made this connection.
Which part of this did you not understand?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/10/2022 21:34:24
The most likely cause of war at the minute is that maniac Putin.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #46 on: 11/10/2022 15:44:46 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/10/2022 21:34:24
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/10/2022 20:47:30
You have to get down on your knees and recognize the theory as such to avoid war
The most likely cause of war at the minute is that maniac Putin.
My recognition of some crackpot idea here isn't going to influence him, is it?
Do you think I can influence him then?

Why?
___________

PS: I choose b:

declare war (on somebody/something) (https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/declare-war-on-somebody-something)
a) to state officially that you are at war with another country
b) informal to say that something is wrong and that you will do everything you can to stop it

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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #47 on: 11/10/2022 16:23:39 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/10/2022 15:44:46
Do you think I can influence him then?
What I am saying is that my looking at your twaddle will not influence him and is thus very unlikely to influence the likelihood of war and thus you were wrong to say this.
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/10/2022 20:47:30
You have to get down on your knees and recognize the theory as such to avoid war.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #48 on: 11/10/2022 16:25:15 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 15:41:35
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/10/2022 15:03:33
So if I talk about war between you and me...
If you talk about something that doesn't exist , you look stupid.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #49 on: 11/10/2022 21:22:04 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/10/2022 15:44:46
b) informal to say that something is wrong and that you will do everything you can to stop it

I'm curious about what exactly you plan to do in regards to this. You're not threatening our forum, are you?
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #50 on: 12/10/2022 02:59:45 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 21:22:04
You're not threatening our forum, are you?
What? Threaten a forum? Already I don't see how. How can we threaten a website? Did you take me for a hacker or what?
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #51 on: 12/10/2022 04:45:41 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 12/10/2022 02:59:45
What? Threaten a forum? Already I don't see how. How can we threaten a website? Did you take me for a hacker or what?

You tell me. You're the one saying you're going to war if your theory isn't accepted.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #52 on: 12/10/2022 15:38:47 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/10/2022 15:44:46
Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/10/2022 21:34:24
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/10/2022 20:47:30
You have to get down on your knees and recognize the theory as such to avoid war
The most likely cause of war at the minute is that maniac Putin.
My recognition of some crackpot idea here isn't going to influence him, is it?
Do you think I can influence him then?

Why?
___________

PS: I choose b:

declare war (on somebody/something) (https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/declare-war-on-somebody-something)
a) to state officially that you are at war with another country
b) informal to say that something is wrong and that you will do everything you can to stop it

 Are you talking about Ukraine? If so Putin should've learned from OPEC. OPEC did an oil embargo in 1973/74
to change America's attitude towards OPEC countries. And do you know what? It worked. And at the moment much worse than that is happening. Now it's more about economic warfare and even China knows this.
 As for crackpot theories, is 700 watts/m^2 really enough to warm the Earth to 20º C.? When you consider that 1m^2 of surface area also has a depth equal to 1 second of velocity of solar radiation.
And if that's 300,000km/s then the actual energy from the Sun warming the Earth's atmosphere would be about 17/300,000 of the 700 watts/m^2. That's be the total energy in the atmosphere from the Sun per square meter of surface area.
 If you consider using a solar panel to absorb energy, it is at one point/surface area that has minimal thickness.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #53 on: 12/10/2022 16:12:19 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/10/2022 15:38:47
 As for crackpot theories, is 700 watts/m^2 really enough to warm the Earth to 20º C.?
No.
But nobody said it was.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #54 on: 12/10/2022 16:16:21 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/10/2022 15:38:47
When you consider that 1m^2 of surface area also has a depth equal to 1 second of velocity of solar radiation.
And if that's 300,000km/s then the actual energy from the Sun warming the Earth's atmosphere would be about 17/300,000 of the 700 watts/m^2. That's be the total energy in the atmosphere from the Sun per square meter of surface area.
That doesn't seem to mean anything.
The ground keeps the air warm.

Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/10/2022 15:38:47
If you consider using a solar panel to absorb energy, it is at one point/surface area that has minimal thickness.
That's also confused.
The thickness of a panel is typically fairly thin but the thickness isn't a particularly important design criterion.
Solar water heaters are about an inch thick. PV cells are about a mm or so.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #55 on: 12/10/2022 20:37:05 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 12/10/2022 16:16:21
Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/10/2022 15:38:47
If you consider using a solar panel to absorb energy, it is at one point/surface area that has minimal thickness.
That's also confused.
The thickness of a panel is typically fairly thin but the thickness isn't a particularly important design criterion.
Solar water heaters are about an inch thick. PV cells are about a mm or so.


 You missed the point I was making. It shows that you've never studied Boltzmann's Ideal Gas Law or other science
that applies to earth science, geosciences or atmospheric chemistry. 17/300,000 = 0.000056667
Multiply that by 700 and you get 0.0396 w/m^2 for each km. If the ground is radiating heat, the same math applies.
And divide 0.0396 by 1,000 and you get 0.000039667 w/m^3.
 And that's if you accept that solar radiation emitted by the Sun or refracted radiation from the ground travels at the speed of light. Isn't math and science fun?
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #56 on: 12/10/2022 20:45:51 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/10/2022 20:37:05
It shows that you've never studied Boltzmann's Ideal Gas Law
Nor has anyone else.
The ideal gas law ".was first stated by Benoît Paul Émile Clapeyron in 1834 as a combination of the empirical Boyle's law, Charles's law, Avogadro's law, and Gay-Lussac's law.[1] The ideal gas law is often written in an empirical form:"

It seems you don't understand that a significant fraction of the earth's heat comes from radioactive decay of things like uranium and thorium.

And it seems that you don't understand that Boltzmann's law of radiation is only applicable to black bodies.

And I accept that I miss the point of this
17/300,000
and that's because you never said what the point was.
You never said what those numbers are, did you?

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« Reply #57 on: 12/10/2022 20:47:42 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/10/2022 20:37:05
Isn't math and science fun?
Yes, you should try it some time.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #58 on: 12/10/2022 21:38:54 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/10/2022 20:37:05
 You missed the point I was making. It shows that you've never studied Boltzmann's Ideal Gas Law or other science
that applies to earth science, geosciences or atmospheric chemistry. 17/300,000 = 0.000056667
Multiply that by 700 and you get 0.0396 w/m^2 for each km. If the ground is radiating heat, the same math applies.
And divide 0.0396 by 1,000 and you get 0.000039667 w/m^3.
 And that's if you accept that solar radiation emitted by the Sun or refracted radiation from the ground travels at the speed of light. Isn't math and science fun?
Please open your own topic. Thanks.
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Re: Attested Evidence of the Understanding of Quantum Mechanics & Cosmology Relation
« Reply #59 on: 12/10/2022 21:44:37 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/10/2022 15:38:47
Are you talking about Ukraine?
Of course not. Did you read the OP? It was the moderators and the experts who made the connection with the word war that I used.
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