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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67180 on: 23/05/2025 14:26:22 »
Fool's gold and positive spins

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/05/250521124433.htm
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67181 on: 23/05/2025 14:27:15 »
Why, well, it's about longer time periods, not about us, you know.

Geological time
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67182 on: 23/05/2025 14:31:43 »
We're rushing to it, which I've been pointing out for a long time, stating that it won't be 'natural' and that you can't expect it to act the same way, unless we speak about a very long time period after we're gone. I don't doubt Earth / Nature 'surviving' this, just us together with our current eco and biosphere. And no matter what, those coming will see a very poor Earth in ruins
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67183 on: 23/05/2025 14:33:56 »
We are, as I express it, pounding nail after nail in our coffin, nature always an untold amount of steps behind it.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67184 on: 23/05/2025 14:43:57 »
"Clouding the forecast: Study reveals why so many climate models are wrong about the rate of Arctic warming"

Another positive spin, questionable, although clouds still is a mystery.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/05/250520122238.htm

why? Well, this

"But importantly, this feedback loop has a time limit. Once clouds become so rich in liquid that they behave like blackbodies -- fully absorbing and re-emitting heat -- further warming has less effect. "

Don't ask me how they count there.

but you can read this

https://www.arcticwwf.org/the-circle/stories/why-is-the-arctic-warming-faster-than-the-rest-of-the-planet/
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« Reply #67185 on: 23/05/2025 14:45:41 »
Remarkable, isn't it? How those positive spins pops up, the worse it gets.
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« Reply #67186 on: 23/05/2025 14:54:45 »
Myself I think that we should be able to use those positive spins, geoengineerings etc as a sort of barometer, of how bad it really is, up to a limit of course. Where that limit should become when all doors are wrecked down, where we find nowhere to hide from it any longer. No New Zealand to look forward to.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67187 on: 23/05/2025 23:01:27 »
" The mass of ice lost from the polar ice sheets has quadrupled since the 1990s, and they are currently losing around 370 billion metric tons of ice per year, said co-author Jonathan Bamber, a physicist at the University of Bristol who focuses on studying how Earth's frozen regions interact with the rest of the climate system. "

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/21052025/paris-agreement-target-wont-protect-polar-ice-sea-level-rise/
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67188 on: 23/05/2025 23:09:46 »
Side by side

https://www.sciencealert.com/two-major-studies-agree-earth-is-entering-frightening-new-climate-phase
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« Reply #67189 on: 23/05/2025 23:10:41 »
I wasted decades on this sh*, thinking that it mattered.


Apparently it doesn't
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« Reply #67190 on: 23/05/2025 23:11:24 »
Not for you. For your kids, yes, and for their kids even worse.


But not for you
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« Reply #67191 on: 23/05/2025 23:11:55 »
You like your toys, and you like your wars better, don't you?
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« Reply #67192 on: 24/05/2025 05:26:54 »
What have those three in common?

https://www.carbonbrief.org/global-wheat-yields-would-be-10-higher-without-climate-change/

https://www.carbonbrief.org/half-of-global-croplands-could-see-a-drop-in-suitable-crops-at-2c-of-warming/

https://www.carbonbrief.org/rising-water-stress-could-counteract-global-green-study-says/
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« Reply #67193 on: 24/05/2025 05:28:24 »
Quite simple. a presumption of a infinite world of infinite resources, where nothing we do need to change.

As f.ex industrial farming, urbanization and deforestation
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« Reply #67194 on: 24/05/2025 05:29:01 »
Looking at symptoms is not enough
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« Reply #67195 on: 24/05/2025 05:29:42 »
It's all about synergies
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« Reply #67196 on: 24/05/2025 05:31:05 »
Industrial farming kills topsoil, which leads to deforestation, and urbanization
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« Reply #67197 on: 24/05/2025 05:35:18 »
Combine it with rains that no longer feeds the soil, instead taking it with it, into rivers and finally the ocean. To get that back you need to look at geological time scales, and this Earth system, we alone won't be able to. Combined with flash droughts and floods, and aquifers running dry

Then you have our water wars, and damming, lack of energy and our accelerating reliance on desalination plants
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« Reply #67198 on: 24/05/2025 05:36:36 »
think we call it progress, and infrastructures
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« Reply #67199 on: 24/05/2025 05:38:57 »
The time scale for this Earth system creating new topsoil differs, but it should at least be some average of centuries, or more. Which means that we won't get it back to 2100 or even 2200. some of it takes milleniums
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