[Karen W.]

Pretty Good thinking!  Your a good mom!!

Karen

[moonfire]

don't know about that...but Daniel had to deal with science...chemistry/physics...not his strongest subject

"Just Me, Lo" Loretta

[Carolyn]

Poor nic is mad at me because I took away his xbox 360 for bringing home 2 b's on progress report.

Carolyn

[moonfire]

What subjects?

"Just Me, Lo" Loretta

[Carolyn]

Literature and Social Studies.  The only reason he doesn't have an A in both of these is because the little bugger is making an F in the homework portion of his grades.  He's making a C in algebra, but I know he's trying in that class and he's only a few points away from a b, so he has time to get his grade up before report cards come out.  I don't know about science yet, but he better be doing well in that too.

[tootsie78]

Definitely AGAINST!!!  What does the Bible say about killing???
"Thou shalt not kill"  Jesus didn't give any "exceptions" to this law.  I haven't ever read in the Bible where it says "Thou shalt not kill unless you are killing a murderer"...ummmmmmmmm, NO!  Sorry!

~Joy~

[Karen W.]

NIce Joy! Welcome to Just Chat, nice to see you here!!

Karen

[moonfire]

Literature can be loads of fun with him if you make it into a game for him Carolyn(he is a male...lol)I used to make games out of their lessons so they had to guess the answers, of course I had to take time and read their lessons and would get the copy of the teacher's lesson plan so I would know where they were at and work with them at home over these subjects...Social Studies....another one, read over it, make up questions with bountiful awards, such as a night at his favourite restaurant...(I did favourite event...ended up at a wrestling match a few times...ewww...football games, basketball games, went to where the cowboys practice so we could autographs, river to tube, race waterboats, miniature golf, ride horses, six flags, glenrose park to look at dinosaur tracks, rock museum, toilet lid museum, science fair park, and etc...different rewards instead of just money all the time.  (Looked for places for them to have fun and learn too...even on family vacations, where we panned for gold, went to the US Mint, historical places like Liberty Bell, Constitution..many of the museums etc)

"Just Me, Lo" Loretta

[Karen W.]

THAT IS A GREAT TOOL LORETTA.. WORKED FOR MY OLDER BOY TOO! nOW HE READS EVERYTHING AND GET THIS, HE'S A GREASE MONKEY AND HE LOVES SHAKESSPHERE!! WHO'D OF THUNK.. THE DOCTOR TOLD ME AND HIM THAT HE WOUYLD NEVER BE ABLE TO READ WITH HIS LEARNING DISABILITY! THE KID HAS NO LEARNING DISABILITY OTHER THEN MOTIVATION.. BUT WHEN THE DOCTOR SAID THAT IT BROKE MY HEART AND p****D HIM OFF! SORRY HE SAID TO ME MIND YOU HE WAS 8 YEARS OLD AND COULD READ HARDLY ANYTHING..BUT HE GRABBED MY HAND IN THE CAR WHEN LEAVING DOCTORS OFFICE AS I WAS CRYING AND HE SAID, DON'T CRY MOMMIE, HE IS WRONG I AM GOING TO READ JUST FINE, I PROMISE...! WELL LET ME SAY HE READS CONSTANTLY AND LOVES IT HE READS WELL AND WHEN HE IS HOME HE IS CONSTANTLY READING AND HAS BECOME QUITE THE BOOKWORM, LOVES HISTORY SCIENCE, MYTHOLOGY, EVERYTHING, THE THEATER THE ARTS AND HAS BECOME QUITE THE LITTLE POET, COWBOY POETRYT, BUT VERY GOOD...RODEO STUFF!

Karen

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by tootsie78
Definitely AGAINST!!!  What does the Bible say about killing???
"Thou shalt not kill"  Jesus didn't give any "exceptions" to this law.  I haven't ever read in the Bible where it says "Thou shalt not kill unless you are killing a murderer"...ummmmmmmmm, NO!  Sorry!

~Joy~

Unfortunately, that is something of a simplification.

As I understand it, "thou shalt not kill” was one of the 10 commandments brought down the mount by Moses, and was not something Jesus himself gave us.  But then, one also has to remember that Moses lead his people into battle against many enemies, and was merciless in his pursuit and destruction of his enemies.  There are also many parts of the bible where there is some controversy as to whether Jesus was himself as much of a pacifist as many modern Christians would wish to believe (he certainly was not averse to carrying a sword – although carrying and using is not the same thing).

George

[Karen W.]

I understand where Joy is comming from but agree with you George as there are many a wars waged in the bible and not just by non believers!!

Karen

[Andy28 (OP)]

quote:Originally posted by Carolyn

Literature and Social Studies.  The only reason he doesn't have an A in both of these is because the little bugger is making an F in the homework portion of his grades.  He's making a C in algebra, but I know he's trying in that class and he's only a few points away from a b, so he has time to get his grade up before report cards come out.  I don't know about science yet, but he better be doing well in that too.

Don't you think you are being a tad unreasonable. My mum used to try and push me all the time and i ended up going the opposite way to rebel against her. So what if he did'nt get A grades?

[Andy28 (OP)]

quote:Originally posted by tootsie78

Definitely AGAINST!!!  What does the Bible say about killing???
"Thou shalt not kill"  Jesus didn't give any "exceptions" to this law.  I haven't ever read in the Bible where it says "Thou shalt not kill unless you are killing a murderer"...ummmmmmmmm, NO!  Sorry!

~Joy~

Thou shall not kill - exactly. Murderers kill and that is why god made us carry out his will when they do (ie, execute them).

[Karen W.]

Good morning Andy.. How are you this morning? I hope your weekend is going smoothly!

Karen

[Andy28 (OP)]

Yeah it is.  My partner has gone out for the night with her mates for the first time in ages so i got some peace for the first time in ages.
I'm just sitting here with my dog and my cider, lol.

[Karen W.]

Sounds like a relaxing time.. What kind of dog do you have? I like dogs!!

Karen

[Carolyn]

quote:Originally posted by Andy28

quote:Originally posted by Carolyn

Literature and Social Studies.  The only reason he doesn't have an A in both of these is because the little bugger is making an F in the homework portion of his grades.  He's making a C in algebra, but I know he's trying in that class and he's only a few points away from a b, so he has time to get his grade up before report cards come out.  I don't know about science yet, but he better be doing well in that too.

Don't you think you are being a tad unreasonable. My mum used to try and push me all the time and i ended up going the opposite way to rebel against her. So what if he did'nt get A grades?

Hi Andy - I know I sound unreasonable here.  Yes a B is a good grade.  If it were the best he could do, then I would be satisfied. But it is way below his abilities.  The only reason he isn't making A's in these subjects is because he doesn't do his homework.  He has been reading since he was a 4 year old.  He loves to read.  He's one of the few boys his age (that I know) that reads for pleasure.  He just doesn't want to spend an hour an evening doing homework. He'd rather play his video games or be online.

His punishment isn't really about the B, it's about the F in his homework.  I couldn't tell you if his IQ is genius or not, but I do know his intelligence is well above average.   He has big dreams for his future and that includes college.  I consider it one of my most important jobs as his mom, to do everthing within my power to help him see his dreams come true.  I don't want him to look back in 10-15 years and have regrets about what he should've done with his education.

I appreciate your concern about me pushing him too far.  I worry about that as well, so I am careful to pay attention as to when to push and when to back off. Notice I didn't punish him about the C in algebra.  I know he's working hard to do better there.  And if I do push to hard, he's quick to remind me to back off, because he'll be the one picking out my nursing home.[]

Carolyn

[Karen W.]

LOL good job MOM!! Sounds Like my kids!

Karen

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by Andy28
Thou shall not kill - exactly. Murderers kill and that is why god made us carry out his will when they do (ie, execute them).

I think the simple answer to this is that two wrongs don't make a right.

George

[another_someone]

quote:Originally posted by Carolyn

Yes exactly.  Every where I went, people whispered and giggled.  I had been very active in my church, and was a Sunday school teacher for the teenagers.  Almost the entire church community turned against me.  It broke my heart.  You would've thought I  had burned their homes down or something equally bad.  Of course, now they're real sweet.  You know the type, sugar wouldn't melt in their mouths.

Carolyn

I have to say that I find this disgraceful behaviour from any group of people (I am not even going to go into the hypocrisy of a church that preaches forgiveness and inclusion – and in Jesus's own words “let him who is without sin cast the first stone”).  But then, maybe it is an unfortunate aspect of human nature that he who preaches the loudest least follows their own doctrine – maybe one should listen more to the quiet voices to show by their actions and not by their load words.

George