[demografx]

POIS DAY ONE

Resisted the interest in a 2nd Round (Levitra can do that, it stays in your system about a day). I suspect it would have been a disaster if I gave in, Levitra or no. Somewhat tired, but very manageable and not "agony/anxiety-tinged exhaustion" as is so often the case. Will midday-nap now.

After the nap + rest:

Feeling much better. Rested a couple hours (dozed off briefly)- then had some caffeine. Hoping that tomorrow will continue the faster recovery cycle!

[demografx]

POIS DAY TWO

So far so good! Much stronger today but still resisting the urge for "a 2nd round". By the way, I quit milk/dairy products as someone (Dave23?) suggested.

Day Two Late Afternoon: continuing to recover to the point where I feel pretty normal. This is occurring at about HALF (1/2) the normal POIS recovery cycle without Levitra!

After 25+ years POIS struggles and experiments, I feel LEVITRA is working for me!

[demografx]

 Thank you!

[demografx]

POIS DAY THREE (Conclusion)

Not exhausted, but - on and off - still a little tired...it comes and goes, and because of sensations in all 10 fingertips (POIS is the ONLY time of my life I feel strange in my fingertips) - I still feel affected, albeit in a minor way, by POIS. Periodic naps/resting (twice today) help enormously. So this is by no means a perfect cure. My guess is that Levitra - for some strange reason - cuts the POIS symptoms in half or more - for me.

Keep in mind what my psychiatrist said: everyone is different. What works for me may or may not work for you. Best wishes to all, and thank you for being here, this Forum has helped me immensely! And I'm greedy...I want to continue to seek a 100% (not 50%+) solution to this lifelong misery!!! []

[demografx]

That is exactly what I was thinking, B_Jim !

[demografx]

DHEA

I asked my psychiatrist about the possibility of DHEA and he replied that DHEA is a precursor to testosterone and if the latter didn't work, it's unlikely that DHEA would.

Sigh...I wonder if this is more difficult than criminal detective work?  []

[varunn.kaushikk]

newbielink:http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=39047985&refresh=1 [nonactive]  please join this community so we can easily interact and share our feelings i am so glad to find u all bcz no one understand what kind of disease we r facing only we can understand each other problem   god bless u all  and may god show us way to escape from this evil   please brothers be in touch   

[varunn.kaushikk]

or mail me on   varunn.kaushikk@gmail.com we have to unite first to fight this evil

[neilep]

or mail me on   varunn.kaushikk@gmail.com we have to unite first to fight this evil

VARRUN Regarding your earlier posts I have created this thread for you as I felt at the time they were not related to this thread....http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=11348.0


Please go there and elaborate as best as you can...or are you now saying you do in fact suffer from POIS ?

[demografx]

VARUNN: if your problem is with wet dreams and POIS, JP says in his post at the POIS Forum: "The only thing I have achieved in this years is that by having a trio of pills (1 for anxiety, 1 for depression, 1 for schizophrenia) I can control wet dreams, which were very frequent before taking them, and were ruining my life. At least now I have control over wet dreams, that were the worst... because I could not control them."

Try to contact JP to see if he can tell you what he takes, then TAKE THAT INFORMATION TO YOUR DOCTOR and see what he recommends. JPlewin's post is at
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.25
 

[demografx]

B_Jim, I hope you feel better by now.

[mellivora]

Hi everyone, sorry I’ve not posted in a while. Welcome to all  who have joined the forum since my last post and thanks a lot for sharing. Chrisb I second Jim_B’s highlighting of your lethargy and derealisation -  it’s the biggest problem for me too. Imre you’re definitely not alone in having problems at work because of this. Its affected my work big time as well. B-Jim I also hope you’re feeling better now.

For me I think exercise definitely has a benefit. It doesn’t really help relieve symptoms but it can definitely help me purge the urge for a release and I recommend trying some exercise next time you really feel the need but can’t afford the after effects. That said, I’m on day one of POIS just now which is my first in a while.

I see that a couple of you are married. I know its not ideal but I find a little comfort in the fact you’re able to maintain a relationship even with POIS. I started seeing a great girl recently and told her about POIS from the start. She said she was willing to try and work around it. Its not the easiest thing to do but if you’re sure you’re getting involved with someone and you find out it’s a mutual thing then I definitely recommend being upfront about POIS from the beginning. Unfortunately now that relationship has ended all too quickly which is really hard just now, but I saw a glimmer of hope that things might just be possible, be positive if you find yourself in the same situation. Like me you may have put up some barriers to stop yourself getting hurt in these situations. At the end of the day I let down the barriers, perhaps too late and I’ve wound up hurting. But I still think its worth the risk if you find someone willing to try and understand POIS. For me, falling for a person like this is so so rare, I think you have to try. Believe there’s someone for you out there. If they find their way to you, I hope it works.

Best to everyone,

[jplewin]

Hi

I've done the same thing as mellivora... everytime i get involved seriously with some girl i just tell her. Some have not understood, others have felt pity for me, but most of the times i've had a good response. As mellivora says, i recommend being totally straight about our condition, because sooner or later it will reflect and harm the relationship.

I have no further news... nothing really interesting has happened.

Best to everyone...

JP

[John21 (OP)]

Hi everyone, nice to see some new people posting.  I Thought I had my profile set to emial me when messages were posted…glad I came back to check.

Agjchs, that’s wonderful if DHEA worked to alleviate your POIS symptoms. I had once ordered DHEA but chickened out from experimenting with it due to the lack of information I could find. I finally threw it out with a couple dozen other supplements I had ordered to experiment with. Perhaps I will order it again, I’ll have to read up on it again.

Chris, at times I had noticed a similar thing, the times when I truly felt love for the woman is when I enjoyed it more and experienced better sexual performance…. and the least POIS.  I wondered if it might be connected to prolactin levels which have been found to be much higher following intercourse vs masturbation.  http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/Brody-2006-prolactin-bp.pdf  Perhaps it generates sufficient prolactin to shut off the sexual circuitry.

Dave, good idea with hormone levels post sex, although years ago I had this checked and apparently everything was good. I don’t know what the endocrinologist checked, but I got a thumbs up. I know you can order hormone testing kits online, perhaps it would provide some information.

Imre1, for me I can avoid wet dreams as long as I keep my mind completely  off sex, by avoiding anything that would make me think of it, including regular tv where people are making out. But I admit I do let the thoughts in eventually and bam, I wake at night as I did last night )

Jim, I’ll respond to the list soon

Hope you’re all doing well !

John

[John21 (OP)]

Agjchs, can you tell me how long you have been on 12.5mg DHEA?

John

[demografx]

POIS Day Zero

Hi John and everyone, thanks for keeping the ideas/thoughts flying!

Today, tired but not exhausted. Took Levitra 10mg + stimulants/caffeine.

Looking forward to more discussion about DHEA.

[John21 (OP)]

Here is some interesting info on DHEA being a possible co-regulator of sleep: http://www.anthropogeny.com/Sleep%20and%20SIDS.htm Considering my insomnia...I'm intrigued.

John

[demografx]

Thanks, John. Well, my last POIS symptoms (starting with Day Zero post right above John's) were pretty mild! I attribute that mostly to Levitra 10mg, but I also learned some very important "tricks" here at the POIS Forum, such as (1) to try to have a good, powerful, romantically-fueled vs. weak experience and (2) low frequency of sex. In my case it's been 3 weeks since. About right, it seems for me.

I owe a lot to this Forum. Even the Levitra might not have been noticed were it not for the focus on POIS and testing the effects of various chemicals and procedures that this Forum affords.

Thank you very much.

[neilep]

Thanks, John. Well, my last POIS symptoms (starting with Day Zero post right above John's) were pretty mild! I attribute that mostly to Levitra 10mg, but I also learned some very important "tricks" here at the POIS Forum, such as (1) to try to have a good, powerful, romantically-fueled vs. weak experience and (2) to not have "too many" releases close together, which varies from person to person. In my case it's been 3 weeks since the last release. About right, it seems for me.

I owe a lot to this Forum. Even the Levitra might not have been noticed were it not for the focus on POIS and testing the effects of various chemicals and procedures that this Forum affords.

Thank you very much.

This is wonderful demografx. ....it's so refreshing to hear of the positive consequences this forum exudes....

We also thank YOU and the participants of this thread for their valuable contributions.

[imre1]

I just wanted to remark that I have been getting some realy great benefits from a new technique inspired with what my sexologist said.

First of all it is needed to state that the problem realy is orgasm, not ejaculation. The reason this is so clear is because there are still some 20% of people with post orgasmic problems are female.

Also what men cannot live without is not actually orgasm, but ejaculation. If you are experiencing post orgasmic problems it is the direct result of orgasming too hard. So what is needed is a way to reduce orgasm while letting ejaculation proceed as normal.

The means of doing this is actually very simple. There is a natural time span in which orgasm is maximally. If you have premature ejaculation orgasm is very weak. If you hold on too long orgasm is again very weak.

It is this second phase of weak orgasm we would like to reliably reproduce. So getting into masturbation for an excessive amount of time, say 3-4 hours.

How on earth do you get masturbation for 3-4 hours?

This can only be done when stopping in between. So repeatedly going to the point of no return and then stopping to do something else. My sexologist called this sexual relaxation.

There are 3 reasons why this would work:
* the same reason why people do 10 minutes cardio training before doing power training (i.e. it acts as a warm-up phase)
* the natural decline of orgasmic feelings
* by stopping right before the point of no return, excessive amounts of pre-cum are released. Since you are not getting this during real ejaculation the time of ejaculation is kept down and orgasm will be much shorter.

If you are wondering wether this will not lead you to miss a feeling of orgasmic fullfilment. Try having more then one orgasm then. Each subsequent orgasm will be small, not strong enough to add to the origin of post orgasmic symptoms.

Also using this technique is very good for avoiding wet dreams. Since they will train the muscles in your lower abdomen area.

Almost all my post orgasmic symptoms have disappeared because of this technique (which I would like to call Sexual Relaxation Retraining Therapy).

Anyway do with it what you want.