[John21 (OP)]

GC, my mind gets very foggy with too much sleep too, I keep a regular schedule.

Green, it might sound crazy but nutmeg works amazing as an anti-anxiety drug. At first I thought I was just sensitive to it but rather it takes a couple of weeks to take effect just like medication. I am back on it now, I am taking 1/8 of a teaspoon daily. It has been close to two weeks now and today I woke up feeling it, and had a better sleep. Maybe you want to consider this for yourself.

[Vandemolen3]

Today I heard my bloodtest results:
Hormones:
Progesteron: nothing to see
Testosteron: noting to see
Prolactin: nothing to see
Thyroid: a little divergent, like the other two times (Ts4: 11, a little bit low)
Blood:
General blood levels: nothing to see
Diabetes: nothing to see
Vitamins: I will hear that next week because this takes a longer time

This tests were 2 days after an O.
Should I ask for a bloodtest for Cortisol?

[Green]

GC, my mind gets very foggy with too much sleep too, I keep a regular schedule.

Green, it might sound crazy but nutmeg works amazing as an anti-anxiety drug. At first I thought I was just sensitive to it but rather it takes a couple of weeks to take effect just like medication. I am back on it now, I am taking 1/8 of a teaspoon daily. It has been close to two weeks now and today I woke up feeling it, and had a better sleep. Maybe you want to consider this for yourself.

Thank you, I'll look into it and give it a go!

[Green]

Today I heard my bloodtest results:
Hormones:
Progesteron: nothing to see
Testosteron: noting to see
Prolactin: nothing to see
Thyroid: a little divergent, like the other two times (Ts4: 11, a little bit low)
Blood:
General blood levels: nothing to see
Diabetes: nothing to see
Vitamins: I will hear that next week because this takes a longer time

This tests were 2 days after an O.
Should I ask for a bloodtest for Cortisol?

Try and obtain a print out, I've had Doctor's in the past just tell me "all fine" my Tesosterone reading on two seperate readings were 240-270ng/dl and that was deemed ok because it was slightly out of range.

[Vandemolen3]

Today I heard my bloodtest results:
Hormones:
Progesteron: nothing to see
Testosteron: noting to see
Prolactin: nothing to see
Thyroid: a little divergent, like the other two times (Ts4: 11, a little bit low)
Blood:
General blood levels: nothing to see
Diabetes: nothing to see
Vitamins: I will hear that next week because this takes a longer time

This tests were 2 days after an O.
Should I ask for a bloodtest for Cortisol?

Try and obtain a print out, I've had Doctor's in the past just tell me "all fine" my Tesosterone reading on two seperate readings were 240-270ng/dl and that was deemed ok because it was slightly out of range.

Yes I was already planning to do that. Tommorow I will go to the hospital ask for a print with the results.

[Counterpoints]

Demografx,
I don't think the interview is a good idea, not on a joke/spoof website.  If he is genuinely concerned about publicizing this condition so that people who are suffering can get help then how about an interview in a different medium, where the objective isn't to make jokes.  Yes, publicity is good, but if we're going to make an effort, why not give it the seriousness it deserves.  There is no running joke about people with Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, MS, etc., and I don't think there should be one about POIS.

I am hesitant to say anything that might prevent even one extra person from finding these resources and getting help.  But really, if this guy cares there are more effective things he can do I'm sure.  We have to keep our dignity.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe we should do it.  But I think we should at least voice these concerns to this person.

[horizon]

demo,
If you think its a good idea, could you write to Dr.Dexter, to ask him to write to his patient, to invite and tell him about the forum?
Im sure we'll like to ask him a few things.

[horizon]

[horizon]

Sorry to say my first experiment with Norethisterone hasnt worked.
Its been about 5 days since Oing and there was still abit of pois lingering (no real fatigue but abit stiff all over, and abit tender down below).
The pills arrived this morning, and I decided to take 2x5mg then another 2x5mg fifteen minutes later.
They just made feel drowsy and abit headachy

[tough]

Cheers for sharing. I guess the first question is for older guys to answer as in our teens is hard to know whether we will later on lose hair or not. I am in my mid twenties and have a head full of hair and just wondering whether POIS sufferers have in general a head full of hair. I have a small theory where males that get bold its like a sign that things working well in their body and that the baldness is just like the very end product of hormone conversation. But is anyone here is bold and still suffering??

I'm balding badly at my crown and temple areas. My 57 year old father has more hair than I do!!! Baldness does not run in my family, all siblings have a forset on their head, where as I have a little grass patch and a hairline which starts parallel to the middle of my ears, it's embarrassing to say the least.

Every morning I wake up, I use a lint hair roller to catch the hair on my pillow and it's not a pretty site.

Chronic stress levels combined with POIS agony seem to be the clear indicators contributing to hair loss in my case, along with low testosterone levels, I've been loosing hair gradually since aged 15.

firstly, sorry to hear that mate:( but maybe guys that all the males in their family have a male balding pattern dont suffer from POIS, where I too, my dad has a head full of hair, so do I but I'm defentaly loosing hair much more then I should. As I can also see the pillow with lots of hair each morning:(

Also, it is as if POIS takes vitamins out of me, before POIS started in me my hair was smooth and shine. now its more like a hard and not so flexible:( if you look at balding guys, it seems as if their hair quality is good, just as when they were young. do you think that? is your hair too, was once much smoother and healthier looking compare to today?

and also guys, did you all try and keep on trying to O only in a position where your hips move? I'm not a religious guy, but in the judeo christian faiths, I know they always say never to waste sperm but do to attempt and produce lots of of-springs. Perhaps they learned or thought that non-hips movement is not as beneficial as mimicking or actually trying to fertile a women. what do we reckon?

[Green]

Demografx,
I don't think the interview is a good idea, not on a joke/spoof website.  If he is genuinely concerned about publicizing this condition so that people who are suffering can get help then how about an interview in a different medium, where the objective isn't to make jokes.  Yes, publicity is good, but if we're going to make an effort, why not give it the seriousness it deserves.

These are pretty much my thoughts also, we don't want to send out a convoluted message about POIS that can be misconstrued, being on a spoof site. Whatever you decide to do we'll support your decision 100%.

[demografx]

Demografx,
I don't think the interview is a good idea, not on a joke/spoof website.  If he is genuinely concerned about publicizing this condition so that people who are suffering can get help then how about an interview in a different medium, where the objective isn't to make jokes.  Yes, publicity is good, but if we're going to make an effort, why not give it the seriousness it deserves.  There is no running joke about people with Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, MS, etc., and I don't think there should be one about POIS.

I am hesitant to say anything that might prevent even one extra person from finding these resources and getting help.  But really, if this guy cares there are more effective things he can do I'm sure.  We have to keep our dignity.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe we should do it.  But I think we should at least voice these concerns to this person.

Thank you, Counterpoints. I appreciate your sober reflection on this!!

[GoingCrazy]

Demo, I say go for it.  But be serious in the interview, just make sure people end up knowing that this is a real disease and it needs attention.  I think their is really nothing to lose here, as long as people know this is a real condition affecting thousands of people at least, we might end up getting someone who would want to research it.  I think any publicity would be great.

I think I'm going to start myself on some nutmeg too, see how it feels.

[demografx]

Thanks, GC! I appreciate your thoughts.

[demografx]

Demografx,
I don't think the interview is a good idea, not on a joke/spoof website.  If he is genuinely concerned about publicizing this condition so that people who are suffering can get help then how about an interview in a different medium, where the objective isn't to make jokes.  Yes, publicity is good, but if we're going to make an effort, why not give it the seriousness it deserves.

These are pretty much my thoughts also, we don't want to send out a convoluted message about POIS that can be misconstrued, being on a spoof site. Whatever you decide to do we'll support your decision 100%.

Green, many thanks!!

[demografx]

demo,
If you think its a good idea, could you write to Dr.Dexter, to ask him to write to his patient, to invite and tell him about the forum?
Im sure we'll like to ask him a few things.

Horizon, I'm passing on your message as is to Dr. Selwyn Dexter. Hope that's ok with you. And thank you for the thought/idea!

[Counterpoints]

What I really don't like about the spoof site is how there are bits of false information very much integrated with bits of true information. 

[Vandemolen3]

What I really don't like about the spoof site is how there are bits of false information very much integrated with bits of true information. 

You are right. When people type POIS in Google. Maybe they get the link too Spoof. And then they ask: is it a real dissease or not?
So better not.

[Vandemolen3]

Does anyone had a bloodtest for dopamin and serotonin?

[Green]

Does anyone had a bloodtest for dopamin and serotonin?

Did you get your results today?

I'll show you mine if you show me yours






Jokes aside, I've had a very interesting strange and frustrating time at my visit to the endocrinologist, I'll update here later on, not slept for atleast two day, need some sleep ZzZzZzZzZzZZzzzzz...