[tkadm30 (OP)]

The possibility that geoengineering caused Hurricane Harvey must not be underestimated.

[mrsmith2211]

Is the hypothesis of climate change what you are referring to as geoengineering?

[tkadm30 (OP)]

Is the hypothesis of climate change what you are referring to as geoengineering?

"Climate change" is a political fraud fabricated to justify the weaponization of weather modification technology known as geoengineering.

[mrsmith2211]

So what are you trying to say?

[jeffreyH]

I think the poster is trying to say that ignorance is the mother of invention.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30197085

[alancalverd]

The damage done by modern hurricanes is the result of civil engineering - or lack of same.

[Bored chemist]

So what are you trying to say?

You have to make allowances for tkadm30's inability to understand evidence.
He believes essentially anything he sees on crackpot websites.
Check his other threads on the subject.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

You have to make allowances for tkadm30's inability to understand evidence.
He believes essentially anything he sees on crackpot websites.
Check his other threads on the subject.

Thanks for not even attempting to answer my initial question. Your systematic denial of independent research is probably the reason you miss the point. Please stop the emotional ranting and confront me with reasonable arguments. Otherwise, we have no reason to believe in your nonsense.
 

[Kryptid]

No, because there is no reason to believe that geoengineering had anything to do with Hurricane Harvey. No verifiable evidence has been presented by the OP.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

"Bizarre Radar Anomaly Over Corpus Christi Texas 2 Days Before Harvey Landfall Indicates Mass Weather Modification Took Place."

Friday, Aug 25th, 2017:  Looking at the SSEC Watervapor map on a 28 hour loop, we see that hurricane Harvey was being targeted with microwave RF sufficient to temporarily destroy the eyewall’s organization at two separate times in this loop as the storm advanced in a Northeast path toward Texas. In the previous two videos we show the distinct markings of the microwave transmitter targeting Harvey, superheating various areas near its center which generate pressure waves and ‘blast’ patterns while disrupting the convective process in the storm.

https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2017/08/26/weather-terrorists-engineer-hurricane-harvey-for-maximum-destruction/amp/

http://allnewspipeline.com/Hurricane_Harvey_Weather_Modification_Evidence.php

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/harvey-steered-texas-coast-microwave-burst-haarp/206437

https://geopolitics.co/2014/02/04/u-s-attacked-philippines-using-haarp/

[alancalverd]

Anything injected into the upper atmosphere by any means, will be about 5000 miles to the east in 24 hours.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

Anything injected into the upper atmosphere by any means, will be about 5000 miles to the east in 24 hours.

We are talking about satellite-controlled microwave radiation here.

[Bored chemist]

You have to make allowances for tkadm30's inability to understand evidence.
He believes essentially anything he sees on crackpot websites.
Check his other threads on the subject.

Thanks for not even attempting to answer my initial question. Your systematic denial of independent research is probably the reason you miss the point. Please stop the emotional ranting and confront me with reasonable arguments. Otherwise, we have no reason to believe in your nonsense.
 

It was pretty clear that I was seeking to answer someone else's question, rather than yours.
Theirs had the advantage of making sense.

Once again, you haven't presented any evidence of geoengineering on any meaningful scale, never mind evidence that it is responsible for any particular event.

[Bored chemist]

Anything injected into the upper atmosphere by any means, will be about 5000 miles to the east in 24 hours.

We are talking about satellite-controlled microwave radiation here.

Royal we?

[Kryptid]

"Bizarre Radar Anomaly Over Corpus Christi Texas 2 Days Before Harvey Landfall Indicates Mass Weather Modification Took Place."

Friday, Aug 25th, 2017:  Looking at the SSEC Watervapor map on a 28 hour loop, we see that hurricane Harvey was being targeted with microwave RF sufficient to temporarily destroy the eyewall’s organization at two separate times in this loop as the storm advanced in a Northeast path toward Texas. In the previous two videos we show the distinct markings of the microwave transmitter targeting Harvey, superheating various areas near its center which generate pressure waves and ‘blast’ patterns while disrupting the convective process in the storm.

https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2017/08/26/weather-terrorists-engineer-hurricane-harvey-for-maximum-destruction/amp/

http://allnewspipeline.com/Hurricane_Harvey_Weather_Modification_Evidence.php

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/harvey-steered-texas-coast-microwave-burst-haarp/206437

https://geopolitics.co/2014/02/04/u-s-attacked-philippines-using-haarp/

What verifiable evidence do you have that the radar anomaly was caused specifically by man-made microwave beams? Please don't say, "we have no other explanation for it, therefore it had to be man-made microwave beams", because that would be the argument from ignorance fallacy. Fallacies prove nothing. How about giving us some verifiable evidence that these weather modification satellites exist in the first place?

I'm not asking for some reference to a vague program from the past for which we have no confirmation that it ever reached the scale you propose. I'm asking for unambiguous evidence that these satellites exist now and have the ability to control hurricanes. I'm asking for evidence that is verifiable and does not invoke any kind of fallacious logic. I have yet to see you provide this kind of evidence.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

What verifiable evidence do you have that the radar anomaly was caused specifically by man-made microwave beams? Please don't say, "we have no other explanation for it, therefore it had to be man-made microwave beams", because that would be the argument from ignorance fallacy. Fallacies prove nothing. How about giving us some verifiable evidence that these weather modification satellites exist in the first place?

I'm not asking for some reference to a vague program from the past for which we have no confirmation that it ever reached the scale you propose. I'm asking for unambiguous evidence that these satellites exist now and have the ability to control hurricanes. I'm asking for evidence that is verifiable and does not invoke any kind of fallacious logic. I have yet to see you provide this kind of evidence.

Do you have any idea what are the capacities of the HAARP system?
HAARP technology is fully functioning and capable of altering geomagnetic storms, including hurricanes.
See: http://www.google.com/patents/US4686605

[Kryptid]

Do you have any idea what are the capacities of the HAARP system?
HAARP technology is fully functioning and capable of altering atmospheric storms, including hurricanes.
See: http://www.google.com/patents/US4686605

A search of that patent didn't bring up the term "HAARP" even once. Give us evidence that HAARP is indeed capable of altering the weather on the scale that you propose. Just for the sake of argument, even if part of the original intention of the HAARP program was to alter the weather, that doesn't mean that they were actually able to pull it off in any significant manner. People have tried to use silver iodide to modify the weather but the results were ambiguous at best. How do you know HAARP didn't turn out the same way? Falling short of expectations and instead being used for other purposes? Show some definitive link between HAARP and any given weather event.

The energy available to HAARP is far too small to conceivably have any important effect on something like a hurricane. The facility can produce a radio signal with 3.6 million watts of power, whereas the average hurricane releases around 600 trillion watts of heat energy: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/hurricane-power.html. That means HAARP has only 0.0000006% of the power output of an average hurricane (making the hurricane 167 million times more powerful). That's like comparing the power output of a candle to that of some power plants.

[mrsmith2211]

OK, who would do this with HAARP and why? Given the massive scale of the storm I consider it improbable.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

The energy available to HAARP is far too small to conceivably have any important effect on something like a hurricane. The facility can produce a radio signal with 3.6 million watts of power, whereas the average hurricane releases around 600 trillion watts of heat energy: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/hurricane-power.html. That means HAARP has only 0.0000006% of the power output of an average hurricane (making the hurricane 167 million times more powerful). That's like comparing the power output of a candle to that of some power plants.

The HAARP ionospheric heater may intensify tropical hurricanes and geomagnetic storms through geometric modulation:

Geometric Modulation

Instead of modulating the power of the HF array, and thus not using it at its maximum power, geometric modulation relies on leaving the array on, but moving the beam across the sky at the ELF frequency. Figure 2 shows some examples where the beam can sweep a line or circle in the sky. Each portion of the ionosphere is effectively being heated at the ELF frequency. The heated area is larger which results in larger overall ELF power, and there is phasing between each heated region, which can impart some directionality to the radiated ELF (Cohen et al., 2008; Cohen et al., 2010).

See: http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater

Note also that High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is supported by the US Air Force Research Laboratory.