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Quote from: Zer0 on 13/03/2024 18:13:08ps - Nobody sells a Goose that lays Golden eggs.Apart, of course, from successive British governments.
ps - Nobody sells a Goose that lays Golden eggs.
Quote from: Zer0 on 13/03/2024 18:13:08Predictions are Actions!Not necessarily. I've predicted increase of Tesla stock several times based on engineering reviews on YouTube, especially by Sandy Munro and Tony Seba. I took no action afterwards, and got no gain for my inaction.
Predictions are Actions!
Could you kindly elaborate Please...Any Evidence?
I've defined consciousness as the capacity to achieve goals effectively and efficiently.
What makes you think that future civilization won't be able to recycle resources effectively and efficiently?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 15/03/2024 11:48:47What makes you think that future civilization won't be able to recycle resources effectively and efficiently?So far, the evidence is that per capita production of nonrecyclable waste increases every year. It's called "economic growth" and is apparently essential to the wellbeing of politicians and the manufacturers of cosmetics.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 14/03/2024 13:25:37Quote from: Zer0 on 13/03/2024 18:13:08Predictions are Actions!Not necessarily. I've predicted increase of Tesla stock several times based on engineering reviews on YouTube, especially by Sandy Munro and Tony Seba. I took no action afterwards, and got no gain for my inaction.Law of Supply vs Demand.Economics 001.Predicting increase in Value invites Higher demand.As demand goes up, & supply is Limited n Not infinite, prices Rise.Your Predictions were the Actions...Hence,Quote from: Zer0 on 13/03/2024 18:13:08Predictions are Actions!You investing in or not in TSLA remains unaccounted for, out of the equation.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 15/03/2024 11:46:57I've defined consciousness as the capacity to achieve goals effectively and efficiently.Which puts a spider several orders more conscious than any human.
Why can't they be recycled?
How do you define economic growth? How important is it?
How do you know its goals?How do you know that it can achieve its goals effectively and efficiently, much more than humans?
Its apparent goal is to survive, grow, and populate the universe with spiders.
Because that requires uneconomic energy input. In principle you could pyrolyse all organic material, scrub the noxious halides for re-use, grow plants to reduce the CO2 to combustible carbon, and use that to reduce your scrap metals, but ΔS > 0 whatever you do, so you are just hastening the heat death of the universe.
Like rats, fleas and cockroaches, spiders go wherever humans go. They have more sense than to care what a planet is.
Making space travels economical is an instrumental goal for building a multiplanetary civilization, which in turn is an instrumental goal to pass a well known great filter.We can't expect this kind of achievement coming out of a country with small economic size. They can't afford to blow up several starships in the development phase.
It makes them depend on humans to go to places where they can't survive at present.
So what? It's happened before, and the universe survived, even if the dinosaurs didn't.Homo "sapiens" is perfectly content to sacrifice 85,000,000 of the finest of its species for no reason whatever (see WWII) and continues to do so every day for the greater glory of a nonexistent deity, along with eradicating various other species that get in the way of "economic expansion". So not only would your extinction event be of no cosmic consequence, humans would regard it as wholly acceptable.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 16/03/2024 19:57:44It makes them depend on humans to go to places where they can't survive at present.And when you enter tombs or places like Scott's Antarctic hut, you find spiders thriving long after all the humans have died.