[kazbert]

Psychiatry sucks because it is not based on actual evidences and rely on junk science to rationalize the use of brain-altering drugs to become socially accepted.

And where would you be right now if psychiatry did not exist?  Be honest!  You were court-ordered to have a psychiatric evaluation because of something you said or did.  You need to own that.

All medications are based on experimentation and statistics.  None of it is 100% foolproof.  What can be frustrating with some psychiatric medications is that it can takes a few months to determine if that medication is working for you.  If you have already made up your mind that the only answer you will accept is the answer you want to hear, then that is on you, not the entire field of psychiatry. 

Have you consulted with a neuro-therapist?  Neuro-therapy is not a magic bullet, but for some maladies it can be remarkably effective and without the side effects of medications.  I have used neuro-therapy to address a degradation in my cognitive function that resulted from kidney disease and dialysis.  One good thing about it is that if it is going to benefit you that benefit can be experienced within days, not months, so the therapy can be tweaked quickly to find something effective. 

No matter what kind of doctor you consult with, if you try to manipulate the outcome with lies or by withholding the full truth no one will be able to help you.

[chris]

It is understandable to wish that the instability were not there, bit if it is then the medication should be seen as a blessing, not a curse,

That's a very interesting and thought-provoking way point. Thank you for making it.

[smart (OP)]

Psychiatry sucks because it is not based on actual evidences and rely on junk science to rationalize the use of brain-altering drugs to become socially accepted.

And where would you be right now if psychiatry did not exist?  Be honest!  You were court-ordered to have a psychiatric evaluation because of something you said or did.  You need to own that.

All medications are based on experimentation and statistics.  None of it is 100% foolproof.  What can be frustrating with some psychiatric medications is that it can takes a few months to determine if that medication is working for you.  If you have already made up your mind that the only answer you will accept is the answer you want to hear, then that is on you, not the entire field of psychiatry. 

Have you consulted with a neuro-therapist?  Neuro-therapy is not a magic bullet, but for some maladies it can be remarkably effective and without the side effects of medications.  I have used neuro-therapy to address a degradation in my cognitive function that resulted from kidney disease and dialysis.  One good thing about it is that if it is going to benefit you that benefit can be experienced within days, not months, so the therapy can be tweaked quickly to find something effective. 

No matter what kind of doctor you consult with, if you try to manipulate the outcome with lies or by withholding the full truth no one will be able to help you.

Thanks for writing @kazbert.

I suggest you research "sluggish schizophrenia". Psychiatry can be used as a political weapon to repress
independent freethinking. The "court order" is something which can be forged to rationalize
the use of brain-altering drugs (antipsychotics) on nonconforming people. You really don't need to have done or said anything in specific to become a victim of psychiatric oppression.

[smart (OP)]

@exothermic can you read this?   

[exothermic]

There is some evidence that cannabis use may contribute to development of schizophrenia.

Directly from your link: "The authors found that cannabis use alone does not predict the transition to subsequent psychiatric illness."

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[kazbert]

You really don't need to have done or said anything in specific to become a victim of psychiatry oppression.

And you have been targeted with psychiatric oppression because ...?

[smart (OP)]

You really don't need to have done or said anything in specific to become a victim of psychiatry oppression.

And you have been targeted with psychiatric oppression because ...?

Life is complicated.
I've been targeted with antipsychotic drugs because of my "eccentric beliefs" and unemployment.

[smart (OP)]

There is some evidence that cannabis use may contribute to development of schizophrenia.

Directly from your link: "The authors found that cannabis use alone does not predict the transition to subsequent psychiatric illness."

~

Thanks for writing @exothermic...

[exothermic]

Thanks for writing @exothermic...

Outside of neurodevelopmental exposure [[during adolescence]].... there doesn't seem to be much of an increased risk.

Potential biological risks include: complications [[before or during birth]] (such as infections, poor nutrition while in the womb, maternal stress or birth trauma) (Meli et al., 2012); cannabis use, especially [[in adolescence]] (Arseneault et al., 2004; Moore et al., 2007)

One well established theory is the neurodevelopmental hypothesis (Fatemi & Folsom, 2009), which proposes that some people have a vulnerability to developing psychosis and schizophrenia that arises due to the interaction of genetic and environmental risks around the time of birth.

Population studies such as the NEMESIS project (de Leon et al., 2005) and the UK AESOP study (Chen et al., 2013) have shown that a number of ‘environmental’ factors predict those who are more likely to show persistence and worsening of symptoms, including: cannabis exposure [[in adolescence]], social deprivation, absence of a parent and the experience of childhood abuse or neglect.

Affective dysregulation has been shown to be a dimension that is both highly comorbid with psychosis (now argued to be a dimension of psychosis) and a strong feature in its early development (Evins et al., 2005); the presence of affective dysfunction in adolescence, particularly depression and social anxiety, has been shown to be a predictor of transition from psychotic experience to psychotic disorder (Bloch et al., 2010).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK333029/

[kazbert]

Life is complicated.
I've been targeted with antipsychotic drugs because of my "eccentric beliefs" and unemployment.

I'm an mechanical engineer.  We have arrived at a point in this discussion where I would need to know a lot more about psychiatric evaluation and therapies to be helpful regarding your desires to get off of anti-psychotics.  For example, I have no idea what kind of eccentric beliefs a psychiatrist would deem benign versus inhibiting your effective and/or safe functioning in society.  I would have to believe that your current position is frustrating to you and perhaps even frightening.  I wish you the best, but I am out of my depth here. 

[edit -- corrected typo]

[smart (OP)]

I'm an mechanical engineer.  We have arrived at a point in this discussion where I would need to know a lot more about psychiatric evaluation and therapies to be helpful regarding your desires to get off of anti-psychotics.

The desire to get off antipsychotics is legitimate for anyone who may have been victimized by unjustified psychiatric treatments. A behavior or misbehavior does not justify the penalty of a prolonged psychiatric assault. I have survived 5 years taking aripiprazole and declare hopefully that I do not need this drug anymore for properly functioning.

[But this battle is not over yet, I still have to reclaim the full ownership of my body and mind to my "psychiatrist", who just desperately peddle to make me accept my monthly dose of unwarranted "medication".] 

[smart (OP)]

I DID IT!!! 

I SURVIVED PSYCHIATRY AND CONVINCED MY DOCTOR TO BECOME REASONABLE.

NO MORE REEFER MADNESS FOR ME.

LIFE IS TOO IMPORTANT TO NOT HAVE FULL OWNERSHIP OVER YOUR MIND AND BODY.

FOR THOSES OF YOU STILL VICTIMIZED WITH PSYCHIATRY, JUST HANG ON!

[Kryptid]

So, has he stopped treatment altogether?

[smart (OP)]

So, has he stopped treatment altogether?

Yes my friend. We reached an agreement in order to stop the monthly abilify injections. Since i was no longer under a court order, there is nothing he could do to prevent me from taking this decision. So I'm willing to experiment living free of antipsychotics in hope it can decrease my chronic hypertension and to have a normal life again. This is a GREAT day!

   

[Kryptid]

Whatever comes of it, I hope it works out for the best.

[smart (OP)]

It's been 6 days i stopped taking aripiprazole and so far my blood pressure dropped to 126/58mmHg. I propose that long-term aripiprazole therapy may induce essential hypertension by selectively blocking dopamine receptors.

[smart (OP)]

My psychiatrist asked me a interesting question during our last meeting that I wish to share. He asked: "How would I know that I could get in troubles by stopping my treatments?"

I responded that people around me would notice that right away.

I think that since psychiatry is not applying the precautionary principle in the diagnosis of a mental disease, it's far less risky to stop giving a neuroleptic to someone who is mentally stable to avoid complications later in its life than unconditionally exposing him/her to a potentially hazardous treatment.

So, there you have it. I'm going to prove that you can be cured from "schizophrenia", since nobody really understand what this "mental disorder" is about. I think that I know myself better than anyone. Nobody can prove that you're sick if you trust yourself that you're ok. This is about building self-confidence and getting yourself in control of your mental health.

tk