[The Spoon]

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No. It a childlike drawing of a fried egg with scribble on it.

[The Spoon]

Made up pictures are not evidence.

They are not made up pictures, I took them this morning with my conceptual camera.

Method

1) look between the distant stars

2) take a conceptual picture

3) diagnose that picture

4) develop an objective conclusion  as a hard copy.


Added - Unless you want to suggest that the darkness between the stars is a firmament?

In other words just make stuff up. As you keep doing and presenting it as fact. Like a child playing let's pretend.

[guest39538]

Made up pictures are not evidence.

They are not made up pictures, I took them this morning with my conceptual camera.

Method

1) look between the distant stars

2) take a conceptual picture

3) diagnose that picture

4) develop an objective conclusion  as a hard copy.


Added - Unless you want to suggest that the darkness between the stars is a firmament?

In other words just make stuff up. As you keep doing and presenting it as fact. Like a child playing let's pretend.

It is the other way around I believe, I am far more objective than your subjective.

[guest39538]

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No. It a childlike drawing of a fried egg with scribble on it.

It may be child like but the diagram has lots of physics . I am not Michael Angelo pfffff.

[The Spoon]

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No. It a childlike drawing of a fried egg with scribble on it.

It may be child like but the diagram has lots of physics . I am not Michael Angelo pfffff.

No you are not. You are not a physicist either.

[guest39538]

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No. It a childlike drawing of a fried egg with scribble on it.

It may be child like but the diagram has lots of physics . I am not Michael Angelo pfffff.

No you are not. You are not a physicist either.

So tell me what is a physicist ?  Somebody who can remember Wiki?

Education is not a validation of anything. 

[Kryptid]

You're going to need to explain what that "R3" picture you made means. I  don't understand what it is supposed to represent.

Infinite nothing, where light and dark does not exist and  where time is timeless.   Where nothing is n-dimensional space.

"Infinite nothing" doesn't make sense. You can't have a quantity of nothingness. By definition of what nothingness is, there isn't anything to count or measure.

You want to know I know there is an infinite space?


Imagine travelling in a straight line in the direction of outer space, you then encounter a wall , is this wall finite or infinite?


Then of course we being humans get out the shovels and get digging.   

So when we dig through the wall , is there space on the other side of the wall or more wall?

Hence space is objectively infinite.

That doesn't prove anything. If, for instance, the Universe was a hypersphere then you could travel forever in any one direction without running into any "walls" but you would still have a finite amount of space that you are travelling through. You'd eventually end up back at your starting point. It's rather like assuming that a NASCAR racetrack is infinitely long because you can keep going around it without running into any barriers.

So tell me what is a physicist ?  Somebody who can remember Wiki?

So you don't even know what a physicist is...

[guest39538]

"Infinite nothing" doesn't make sense. You can't have a quantity of nothingness. By definition of what nothingness is, there isn't anything to count or measure.

Space is a quantity of nothing that can be measured

[guest39538]

That doesn't prove anything. If, for instance, the Universe was a hypersphere then you could travel forever in any one direction without running into any "walls" but you would still have a finite amount of space that you are travelling through. You'd eventually end up back at your starting point. It's rather like assuming that a NASCAR racetrack is infinitely long because you can keep going around it without running into any barriers.

What a load of garbage you would not end up back at the same place.


ƒ:x→∞

[guest39538]

You're going to need to explain what that "R3" picture you made means. I  don't understand what it is supposed to represent.

R³ is real coordinate space

[Bored chemist]

Made up pictures are not evidence.

They are not made up pictures, I took them this morning with my conceptual camera.

Method

1) look between the distant stars

2) take a conceptual picture

3) diagnose that picture

4) develop an objective conclusion  as a hard copy.


Added - Unless you want to suggest that the darkness between the stars is a firmament?

That's the sort of delusion that makes me suggest it's time to get medical help.

Just because you do not know how to think Mr C, that does not mean I need medical help.

The fact that you think that you believe things like this
"Oh you mean like time dilation hey, that I had to put science straight on." suggests that you need medical help.

Why not go and  ask your doctor for their opinion about it?

[guest39538]

Made up pictures are not evidence.

They are not made up pictures, I took them this morning with my conceptual camera.

Method

1) look between the distant stars

2) take a conceptual picture

3) diagnose that picture

4) develop an objective conclusion  as a hard copy.


Added - Unless you want to suggest that the darkness between the stars is a firmament?

That's the sort of delusion that makes me suggest it's time to get medical help.

Just because you do not know how to think Mr C, that does not mean I need medical help.

The fact that you think that you believe things like this
"Oh you mean like time dilation hey, that I had to put science straight on." suggests that you need medical help.

Why not go and  ask your doctor for their opinion about it?

Ahahah you are funny, you just don't like the fact that a nobody with no education can come on a science forum and rip science to shreds using objective facts and objective reality.   Einstein was an idiot learn to deal with that.

[Bored chemist]

Ahahah you are funny, you just don't like the fact that a nobody with no education can come on a science forum and rip science to shreds using objective facts and objective reality.   

No
I just worry that someone thinks they have ripped science up, when they haven't.
I wonder if you may be making other, similar mistakes that will harm you.
I suggest that you check with a medical practitioner.

[guest39538]

Ahahah you are funny, you just don't like the fact that a nobody with no education can come on a science forum and rip science to shreds using objective facts and objective reality.   

No
I just worry that someone thinks they have ripped science up, when they haven't.
I wonder if you may be making other, similar mistakes that will harm you.
I suggest that you check with a medical practitioner.

Your subjective opinion is not needed or welcome, I know what is objective and what is garbage, you are not going to convince me of some subjective garbage is true.  Neither are you going to convince me I need medical help, I am a better scientist than you putty cat, have a bowl of milk and go to bed..

[Bored chemist]

And yet GPS systems still work.
That's objective fact.
It proves time dilation is real and the extent is what GR predicts.

Your hallucinations of r3 between stars is subjective and, frankly worrying.

[guest39538]

And yet GPS systems still work.
That's objective fact.
It proves time dilation is real and the extent is what GR predicts.

Your hallucinations of r3 between stars is subjective and, frankly worrying.

Do you not understand the difference between timing and time?

You either admit my definition of time is correct and time is a quantifiable duration of existence or admit time dilation is a crock of rubbish.   Space has no time and cannot age and you are insane if you think space affects the caesium clock.

[Kryptid]

Space is a quantity of nothing that can be measured

That's a contradiction. Nothingness cannot have properties like length or volume. If it does, then that makes it something. Empty space isn't even empty: it's filled with quantum vacuum fluctuations. Their existence can be demonstrated by the Casimir effect.

What a load of garbage you would not end up back at the same place.

ƒ:x→∞

You would if the Universe was a hypersphere (take note that I said if. We don't know what its true shape is). It's for the same reason that you can fly at a constant latitude around the Earth and end up back at your starting point. Although it looks to a pilot like they are flying in a straight line, their flight path is actually gently curved (because the Earth is round). It's the same case for a hypothetical hyperspherical universe. It looks to you like you are travelling in a straight line, but your trajectory in hyperspace is curved. That's why you can end up back where you began.

Even if the Universe is not a hypersphere, that wouldn't mean that it is infinitely large. If the Universe has an edge of some kind beyond which space and time do not exist, then you cannot travel past that edge. You cannot travel where there is no space, since travelling requires space.

R³ is real coordinate space

That doesn't help me any. What is the picture supposed to prove?

[guest39538]

That's a contradiction. Nothingness cannot have properties like length or volume. If it does, then that makes it something. Empty space isn't even empty: it's filled with quantum vacuum fluctuations. Their existence can be demonstrated by the Casimir effect.

Something of nothing that is correct.

[guest39538]

Space is a quantity of nothing that can be measured

That's a contradiction. Nothingness cannot have properties like length or volume. If it does, then that makes it something. Empty space isn't even empty: it's filled with quantum vacuum fluctuations. Their existence can be demonstrated by the Casimir effect.

What a load of garbage you would not end up back at the same place.

ƒ:x→∞

You would if the Universe was a hypersphere (take note that I said if. We don't know what its true shape is). It's for the same reason that you can fly at a constant latitude around the Earth and end up back at your starting point. Although it looks to a pilot like they are flying in a straight line, their flight path is actually gently curved (because the Earth is round). It's the same case for a hypothetical hyperspherical universe. It looks to you like you are travelling in a straight line, but your trajectory in hyperspace is curved. That's why you can end up back where you began.

Even if the Universe is not a hypersphere, that wouldn't mean that it is infinitely large. If the Universe has an edge of some kind beyond which space and time do not exist, then you cannot travel past that edge. You cannot travel where there is no space, since travelling requires space.

R³ is real coordinate space

That doesn't help me any. What is the picture supposed to prove?

It shows a BH in an infinite space,

[Kryptid]

Something of nothing that is correct.

I don't understand this sentence.

It shows a BH in an infinite space,

Again, what is that supposed to prove?