[rmolnav]

Incidentally, do you think the tides in landmasses are due to whirlpools?
It may have escaped your notice, but Scotland remains resolutely North of London.

Good point ! ...
For the OP rather than for you, I´m going to repeat now something quite clear I said exactly 2 weeks ago, on #76 ... Either he didn´t read it, or he feels too sure that his theory is the right one, and thinks what I said is not worthy to consider ...
"It SURPRISES me this thread carries on. Two different phenomena are being discussed, and frequently mixed up due to that … kind of playing both football (soccer) and rugby on same field … a disaster !
I already mentioned that fact on #13 (more than 60 more posts since then, only two and a half weeks !!!)
“… as I have repeated this very morning on that linked site, that my arguments have always been about root "main" and general ocean tides. What, mainly due to Earth/Moon dynamics (but also to Sun/Moon dynamics) would really happen without local effects, small or rather big. Resonance in water "oscillation" may produce big effects.
And those tides would happen even if Earth did not spin daily, main cause of "whirlpools" ...
And subsequently, erroneous things are being said, since the proposition of the question.
Long ago when I was a boy, I already realized that, e.g., strongest high tides were always at same time, and when full or new Moon, in Atlantic coast of Spain where I was in summer holiday.
And nowadays, just seeing the Moon in Madrid sky at a certain moment, I can tell how high is the tide at mentioned coast, and also if the tide coefficient is high or low, without any complicated maths or any additional information.
How “on Earth” the OP can say:
"The gravity of the moon does not reach the Earth”? … (!!!)"
The rotation of the Moon would be IMPOSSIBLE if Earth gravity didn´t reach it ... Therefore, if Earth gravity pulls the Moon, acc. to 3rd Newton´s Motion Law (did he learn it in his childhood?) Moon gravity pulls the Earth, globally with same force !!

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

There is no convincing evidence and facts, deformation of the Earth's continents under the influence of tidal forces.
Although deformation of the continents can be easily verified by aiming the telescope to the top of a mountain or to a geostationary satellite.

Tidal forces are now successfully used, as a plug from many secrets of nature.
In fact, they exist only theoretically, but practically, they have not been fixed by any gravimetric device.
Acceleration of free fall at the equator is less than at the poles: at the equator is 978 gal, and at the poles - 983 gal.
There is no data about the fluctuation of tidal forces, if there were fluctuations, then there would be data.
Why in the new moon phase, the pendulum clock does not go slowly ..

[Bored chemist]

There is no convincing evidence and facts, deformation of the Earth's continents under the influence of tidal forces.
Although deformation of the continents can be easily verified by aiming the telescope to the top of a mountain or to a geostationary satellite.

Come off it.
It's one of those or the other.
Either the tide moves rock, or it doesn't (Spoiler alert: it does).

There is no data about the fluctuation of tidal forces, if there were fluctuations, then there would be data.

There is data.
It's just that you are not clever enough to find it.|
Here's a reference.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258263518_On_the_gravimetric_contribution_to_watt_balance_experiments
And here's one  which uses the sort of senor you find in a mobile phone to measure the effect  of tides on local gravity.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature17397

Why in the new moon phase, the pendulum clock does not go slowly ..

As I already pointed out, clocks are affected by the tide, and the effect is documented.
It's just that you choose to lie about it.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

If the tidal forces existed, then the pressure of water and air would certainly react, especially during the parade of the planets.
Does the gravity of the Moon create two atmospheric humpbacks, at what speed does the air tidal hump move from east to west? How cyclones and anticyclones manage to move from west to east, at a speed of 50 km / h, wiping the surface of the continents, while the Lunar air tidal wave, moves from east to west at a speed of 1600 km / h.
Are there two air tides in the mountain potholes, per day, does the speed and direction of the wind change, because moving the atmosphere is much easier than water?

[Bored chemist]

If the tidal forces existed, then the pressure of water and air would certainly react, especially during the parade of the planets.

It does.
We call this reaction "the tide".

ow cyclones and anticyclones manage to move from west to east, at a speed of 50 km / h, wiping the surface of the continents,

I already answered that.
Nothing actually moves at 1600 Km/Hr
Why do you keep going on about it?
Did you not understand the answer?

Are there two air tides in the mountain potholes, per day, does the speed and direction of the wind change, because moving the atmosphere is much easier than water?

Yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_tide
Were you not aware of them?

[Bored chemist]

if the side of the moon turned to the earth is concave,

That's just silly.
The moon is nearly spherical and thus convex all over.

The gravity of the moon does not reach the Earth:

What stops it?
There's nothing known that shields from gravity and it's range is infinite- as far as we can tell- it's certainly much longer range than the earth/ moon/ sun system because it keeps the outer planets in orbit.

The geostationary satellite of the Earth, acting as part of the Earth, is in zero gravity, at a distance of 35,000 km. from the Earth,

Obviously wrong.
If the satellite was in zero gravity there would be nothing keeping it in orbit and it would fly off into the cosmos.

and for some reason, is not exposed to the tidal influence of the Moon, despite the fact that the "tidal force" in the Earth-satellite system is 5 times greater than on Earth.

The tidal force is due not to gravity per se, but to the first derivative RT distance.
Essentially, because a satellite is small the difference between the moon's gravity is very very nearly the same on the near side as it is on the far side.
On the other hand, the Earth is big.

And it must not be forgotten that the oceans and continents are attracted by the Earth, and the satellite is in zero gravity ..

Why do you say that "must not be forgotten" when it is obviously not true.

[guest39538]

if the side of the moon turned to the earth is concave,
That's just silly.
The moon is nearly spherical and thus convex all over.

The moon concave's Earths space time.

[Bored chemist]

if the side of the moon turned to the earth is concave,
That's just silly.
The moon is nearly spherical and thus convex all over.

The moon concave's Earths space time.

If that's the best you can do, then don't.

[guest39538]

if the side of the moon turned to the earth is concave,
That's just silly.
The moon is nearly spherical and thus convex all over.

The moon concave's Earths space time.

If that's the best you can do, then don't.

Oh dude, I have not been asked to talk about tides , it is not that difficult of a subject.  As always we compose a list of what possibles there are that affect the  tides.

1)The moon
2)The sun
3)space time
4)The earths spin
5)Coriolis
6)Objects diversion
7)electrostatic force

Secondly we re-compose the list in magnitude of affect, I assume the moon is the primary affect?

1)Moon

[Bored chemist]

To be fair, your comment some time ago
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.msg541485#msg541485
wasn't a bad summary of how tides work- it's not quite right but it's a hell of a lot closer than Femer05's nonsense.

You should probably quit while you are ahead.

[guest39538]

To be fair, your comment some time ago
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.msg541485#msg541485
wasn't a bad summary of how tides work- it's not quite right but it's a hell of a lot closer than Femer05's nonsense.

You should probably quit while you are ahead.

Your link did not take me to anything I posted ,  I will step back out of the thread thought, particle 'polarisation'' and cyclic distribution is probably best left until the future , I left that out of my affects  list because it is electrodynamics based and a difficult subject.

[guest39538]

It's time this site started to ban people who post anti-science.

Define anti-science ?

Don't you mean anti objective control ?

Are you trying to force the way we have to think on us ?  Turning us into AI bots?

Cognitive freedom my friend , you will never destroy that or enforce it .  We would still talk behind your back elsewhere trying to overthrow you .

[Bored chemist]

Define anti-science ?

It's complex, but this will do for a start.#
Science comes up with an idea, and then tests it against real observations to see if it fits.
If it does not fit then the idea is modified or rejected.

Antiscience comes up with an idea and refuses to test it against reality.
If someone else tests it and finds it wanting, rather than attacking the argument or the evidence, antiscience attacks the author.
Or they just repeat the false claims. Sometimes thet add increasingly absurd embellishments.

[Bored chemist]

Your link did not take me to anything I posted ,

Oops, I got muddled. You are right; you haven't said anything helpful.

[guest39538]

It's complex, but this will do for a start.#
Science comes up with an idea, and then tests it against real observations to see if it fits.
If it does not fit then the idea is modified or rejected.

No, science makes lots of theories with lots of absence of evidence or/and poor semantics.  An anti-scientist like myself comes along and tries to correct you with the correct semantics but by your own ignorance  defend that which is ostensible  even though it as been shown to be ostensible content.
Technically the real anti science in this matter is the people like yourself who are stopping science progressing to the next level of thoughts.

So what do you have to say for yourself , objectively the anti-science of this forum ?

[Bored chemist]

An anti-scientist like myself comes along and tries to correct you

You can't assert that you are "correct" without evidence.
Since the physical world contradicts you you are wrong.

The final arbiter is reality and your ideas don't fit with reality.
So you are wrong; there's nothing "ostensible" about it.
You are just making a fool of yourself.

[guest39538]

You can't assert that you are "correct" without evidence.

The evidence is your evidence, the very same evidence.   So yes I can assert you are wrong because your own evidence shows you are wrong about how you present ''your own'' theories.  Understand you are both right and wrong at the same time on somethings.

[Bored chemist]

Show me a single deduction made from your ides which can actually be shown to match the real world, where the conventional view does not.
But, for preference do it in another thread. This one's getting cluttered.

[rmolnav]

...a list of what possibles there are that affect the  tides.
1)The moon
2)The sun
3)space time
4)The earths spin
5)Coriolis
6)Objects diversion
7)electrostatic force
Secondly we re-compose the list in magnitude of affect, I assume the moon is the primary affect?
1)Moon

1) and 2), the Sun, right, logically together with own Earth gravity ,,,
3) Root actual cause of gravity and inertia, if space-time distortion, wouldn´t change main actors: those celestial massive bodies would be causing the distortion ...
4) Again: even if Earth didn´t spin, tides would occur, with some 28 days complete cycle, but also caused by Moon and Sun. Daily Earth spin just makes us perceive them in an apparent app. 1 day complete cycle ... Apart from local phenomena such as costal influences, resonances, Coriolis, whirlpools ... which can enhance or hinder the magnitude of the tides. 
7) Forget it: its effect is quite negligible ...

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

"Lunar tidal current" moving from the Indian Ocean from east to west, crashing into the eastern shore of the island of Madagascar, contrary to expectations creates zero tides. And the abnormally high tidal wave for some reason arises between the island of Madagascar and the eastern coast of Africa. Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and by the fact that the Coriolis force is doing its job.
And the real reason for this inconsistency is the giant whirlpool, revolving around the island of Madagascar at a speed of 9 km / h, and precessing the reflecting tidal wave towards the eastern coast of Africa.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Течение_мыса_Игольного
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мозамбикское_течение
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/ellie_boyce/tidal%20types%20fig.gif