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If we assume that a couple of billion years ago the whole earth was covered with water
Many probably agree that the river water has created the river bed.If we assume that a couple of billion years ago the whole earth was covered with water and rotated faster, then the precession of the whirlpools was more significant, and the whirlpools could create the oceans, and the Mariana trench. And as a rule, on the edge of all trenches in the ocean, there is an arch of islands, and around the islands, a fairly powerful whirlpool rotates.(The laws of nature are universal.) Lao Tzu.There is a strict pattern:Oceanic trenches are formed along the perimeter of the oceans, and over them a rapid current moves, tides and vertical movement of water are formed.At the bottom of the Mariana depression there is no hydrogen sulphide. Trenches are generally parallel to a volcanic island arc, and about 200 km (120 mi) from a volcanic arc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanic_trench
What's wrong here, give more objective criticism.
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 29/07/2018 14:25:08What's wrong here, give more objective criticism.I told you what's wrong.You ignored it.
In the Laptev Sea, the tide is well expressed, has the character of an irregular semidiurnal wave. A tidal wave enters, from the north and spreads to the shores, fading and deforming as they move towards them. The magnitude of the tide is usually small, mostly about 0.5 m. Only in the Khatanga Bay the sweep of tidal vibrations exceeds 2.0 m in syzygy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptev_Sea
"How can a tidal wave move from the north."Who can answer this question.
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:32:01How does the tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can constructively answer this question.Anyone who knows what the words mean.If there is an earthquake at sea somewhere north of you then there will be a tidal wave from the north.
How does the tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can constructively answer this question.
Quote from: rmolnav on 15/05/2018 08:30:14It SURPRISES me this thread carries on. Two different phenomena are being discussed, and frequently mixed up due to that … kind of playing both football (soccer) and rugby on same field … a disaster !I already mentioned that fact on #13 (more than 60 more posts since then, only two and a half weeks !!!)“… as I have repeated this very morning on that linked site, that my arguments have always been about root "main" and general ocean tides. What, mainly due to Earth/Moon dynamics (but also to Sun/Moon dynamics) would really happen without local effects, small or rather big. Resonance in water "oscillation" may produce big effects.And those tides would happen even if Earth did not spin daily, main cause of "whirlpools", as far as I can understand. I have not delved into the existing lot of local cases, but I´ve seen they are very complex, especially on a very long work of NOAA I can´t find now”.And subsequently, erroneous things are being said, since the proposition of the question.Long ago when I was a boy, I already realized that, e.g., strongest high tides were always at same time, and when full or new Moon, in Atlantic coast of Spain where I was in summer holiday. And nowadays, just seeing the Moon in Madrid sky at a certain moment, I can tell how high is the tide at mentioned coast, and also if the tide coefficient is high or low, without any complicated maths or any additional information.How “on Earth” the OP can say:"The gravity of the moon does not reach the Earth”? … (!!!)Has he never had any experience similar to mine?I suggest anybody interested to have a look at ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-MOZId0FNwwhere it´s clearly seen that daily movement of the bulges is only apparent, that they are almost still and it is the solid part of our planet (though also the bulk of ocean waters due to friction) what is actually spinning …The formation of the bulges is a rather slow process (some 28 days the complete cycle, as far as Moon related tides are concerned, and one full year in the case of Sun related tides) … Nothing to do with all those daily local whirlpools, due to the much faster Earth spin, and with any other local singularity. NO single local daily phenomenon should be used to try to refute the FACT that Moon and Sun gravitational pulls, together with inertial effects (unveiled by Newton long ago), are the root causes of “globalized” tides. Physical details on how those tides happen can be discussed, because even there is no general agreement on things such as centrifugal forces, and other issues inherent in the complexity of nature ... But mentioned FACT can be seen by everybody, and matches with BASIC physics laws !!! Thank you for sharing that video, I do not want to ruin this thread with my science so I will step back out. But I will leave you with this: The Natural ''flow'' of the ocean is East to West ← The Moon pulls the natural ''flow'' the opposite way →When the Moon ''let's go'' , the ocean returns to it's normal ''flow''. Ok im out , sorry for intruding. Apologies for posting in other peoples thread.
It SURPRISES me this thread carries on. Two different phenomena are being discussed, and frequently mixed up due to that … kind of playing both football (soccer) and rugby on same field … a disaster !I already mentioned that fact on #13 (more than 60 more posts since then, only two and a half weeks !!!)“… as I have repeated this very morning on that linked site, that my arguments have always been about root "main" and general ocean tides. What, mainly due to Earth/Moon dynamics (but also to Sun/Moon dynamics) would really happen without local effects, small or rather big. Resonance in water "oscillation" may produce big effects.And those tides would happen even if Earth did not spin daily, main cause of "whirlpools", as far as I can understand. I have not delved into the existing lot of local cases, but I´ve seen they are very complex, especially on a very long work of NOAA I can´t find now”.And subsequently, erroneous things are being said, since the proposition of the question.Long ago when I was a boy, I already realized that, e.g., strongest high tides were always at same time, and when full or new Moon, in Atlantic coast of Spain where I was in summer holiday. And nowadays, just seeing the Moon in Madrid sky at a certain moment, I can tell how high is the tide at mentioned coast, and also if the tide coefficient is high or low, without any complicated maths or any additional information.How “on Earth” the OP can say:"The gravity of the moon does not reach the Earth”? … (!!!)Has he never had any experience similar to mine?I suggest anybody interested to have a look at ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-MOZId0FNwwhere it´s clearly seen that daily movement of the bulges is only apparent, that they are almost still and it is the solid part of our planet (though also the bulk of ocean waters due to friction) what is actually spinning …The formation of the bulges is a rather slow process (some 28 days the complete cycle, as far as Moon related tides are concerned, and one full year in the case of Sun related tides) … Nothing to do with all those daily local whirlpools, due to the much faster Earth spin, and with any other local singularity. NO single local daily phenomenon should be used to try to refute the FACT that Moon and Sun gravitational pulls, together with inertial effects (unveiled by Newton long ago), are the root causes of “globalized” tides. Physical details on how those tides happen can be discussed, because even there is no general agreement on things such as centrifugal forces, and other issues inherent in the complexity of nature ... But mentioned FACT can be seen by everybody, and matches with BASIC physics laws !!!
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Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:14:16In the Laptev Sea, the tide is well expressed, has the character of an irregular semidiurnal wave. A tidal wave enters, from the north and spreads to the shores, fading and deforming as they move towards them. The magnitude of the tide is usually small, mostly about 0.5 m. Only in the Khatanga Bay the sweep of tidal vibrations exceeds 2.0 m in syzygy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptev_Sea How can a tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can constructively answer this question.
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:32:01Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:14:16In the Laptev Sea, the tide is well expressed, has the character of an irregular semidiurnal wave. A tidal wave enters, from the north and spreads to the shores, fading and deforming as they move towards them. The magnitude of the tide is usually small, mostly about 0.5 m. Only in the Khatanga Bay the sweep of tidal vibrations exceeds 2.0 m in syzygy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptev_Sea How can a tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can answer this question.
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:14:16In the Laptev Sea, the tide is well expressed, has the character of an irregular semidiurnal wave. A tidal wave enters, from the north and spreads to the shores, fading and deforming as they move towards them. The magnitude of the tide is usually small, mostly about 0.5 m. Only in the Khatanga Bay the sweep of tidal vibrations exceeds 2.0 m in syzygy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptev_Sea How can a tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can answer this question.
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 01/09/2018 03:29:54Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:32:01Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:14:16In the Laptev Sea, the tide is well expressed, has the character of an irregular semidiurnal wave. A tidal wave enters, from the north and spreads to the shores, fading and deforming as they move towards them. The magnitude of the tide is usually small, mostly about 0.5 m. Only in the Khatanga Bay the sweep of tidal vibrations exceeds 2.0 m in syzygy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptev_Sea How can a tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can constructively answer this question.Bored Chemist already answered that question in reply #266. I know that you read it because I saw you respond to it. If you are just going to ignore the answers that are given to you, why are you even going to bother asking questions?
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:32:01Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:14:16In the Laptev Sea, the tide is well expressed, has the character of an irregular semidiurnal wave. A tidal wave enters, from the north and spreads to the shores, fading and deforming as they move towards them. The magnitude of the tide is usually small, mostly about 0.5 m. Only in the Khatanga Bay the sweep of tidal vibrations exceeds 2.0 m in syzygy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptev_Sea How can a tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can constructively answer this question.
How can a tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can answer this question.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/08/2018 14:50:18Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/08/2018 14:32:01How does the tidal wave move from the north pole to the south.Who can constructively answer this question.Anyone who knows what the words mean.If there is an earthquake at sea somewhere north of you then there will be a tidal wave from the north.Persuasive argument.
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