[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

1.Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
2. Are there alternative theories of tides?

According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (2.5 times more).
https://ru.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Трудные_темы_курса_физики/Приливные_силы_и_волны
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, Ungava Bay Quebec - 17m, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.

To answer this question, we need to name 5 gulfs in the equatorial zone, where the height of the tides exceeds 10 meters, otherwise the lunar theory about tides loses logic.

If to argue logically, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35-40 meters.
If, the Bay of Fundy was on the equator, then the height of the tide was 45 meters.
https://www.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/faq2.html#26
The swirling theory of tides
 https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.0 explains this inconsistency by the absence of whirlpools at the equator, as well as cyclones and anticyclones.
To form whirlpools, cyclones and anticyclones, the deflecting force of Coriolis is needed. At the equator, the Coriolis force is minimal and in the temperate zones, it is maximal.


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[wolfekeeper]

Not credible ones.

[chiralSPO]

There are some competing theories/models of gravitation (Newtonian vs General Relativity, vs gravitons), but once you choose a model, tides are well-described.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Not credible ones.

How are their names

[Bored chemist]

Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?

Here's a counter example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turama_River
it only takes one  counter example to show that you are wrong.

A bit of research  brings this to light
" It appears that the range of the tides gets larger the further the location from the equator. What causes this?

If you only consider a few locations, this may seem to be true; but it is not the case. Literally hundreds of locations in the extreme north and south latitudes have small tidal ranges, and a number of stations closer to the equator have large tidal ranges. For example, Korea is at roughly the same latitude as most of the U.S. coast. Numerous stations in Korea have a tidal range of more than 20 feet, most of the U.S. coast has a tidal range of 3-6 feet. A number of locations very near the equator which have a tidal range of 15-17 feet."
from
https://www.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/faq2.html#26

[Colin2B]

Coriolis force is minimal and in the temperate zones, it is maximal.

No, it is maximal at the poles.
One of your problems with the whirlpool idea is that Coriolis effect is not responsible for the speed of the rotation only the deflection; also it is not responsible for the precession which for a gyroscope would be max at equator and zero at the poles.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Why high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?

Here's a counter example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turama_River
it only takes one  counter example to show that you are wrong.
https://www.co-ops.nos.noaa.gov/faq2.html#26

Q: Where are the highest tides?
Below is a listing of 50 locations from around the world where the largest range of tides that have been observed.

Station   Mean Range (feet)
Burntcoat Head, Minas Basin, Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia   38.4
Horton Bluff, Avon River, Minas Basin, Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia   38.1
Amherst Point, Cumberland Basin, Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia   35.6
Parrsboro (Partridge Island), Minas Basin, Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia   34.4
Hopewell Cape, Petitcodiac River, Bay of Fundy, New Brunswick   33.2
Joggins, Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia   33.2
Leaf Lake, Ungava Bay, Quebec   32.0
Port of Bristol (Avonmouth), United Kingdom   31.5
Grindstone Island, Petitcodiac River, Bay of Fundy, New Brunswick   31.1
Spencer Island, Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia   30.5
Newport, Bristol Channel, United Kingdom   30.3
Sunrise, Turnagain Arm, Cook Inlet, Alaska   30.3
Burnham, Parrett River, United Kingdom   29.9
Weston-super-Mare, Bristol Channel, United Kingdom   29.5
Rio Gallegos (Reduccion Beacon), Argentina   29.0
Koksoak River entrance, Hudson Bay, Canada   28.5
Herring Cove, Bay of Fundy, New Brunswick   28.3
Granville, France   28.2
Cardiff, Bristol Channel, United Kingdom   28.1
Leaf Bay, Ungava Bay, Quebec   28.0
Banco Direccion, Magellan Strait, Chile   28.0
Cancale, France   27.8
Bahia Posesion, Magellan Strait, Chile   27.5
Ile Haute, Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia   27.5
Barry, Bristol Channel, United Kingdom   27.1
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The waters of the Gulf of Papua rotate clockwise, forming a huge whirlpool -
gyroscope, which, precessing, reflects a tidal wave in the direction of the Turama River. (there is no data on the flow velocity and the height of the tidal wave).
A similar pattern of tides and tides is observed in all lakes, seas and oceans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_guinea_Turama.png
Your links are contradictory.

[Colin2B]

Your links are contradictory.

If you say that, you clearly haven’t bothered to read the links @Bored chemist took the trouble to post for you.

It says quite clearly that you are wrong in your assertion:

“It appears that the range of the tides gets larger the further the location from the equator. What causes this?
If you only consider a few locations, this may seem to be true; but it is not the case. Literally hundreds of locations in the extreme north and south latitudes have small tidal ranges, and a number of stations closer to the equator have large tidal ranges. For example, Korea is at roughly the same latitude as most of the U.S. coast. Numerous stations in Korea have a tidal range of more than 20 feet, most of the U.S. coast has a tidal range of 3-6 feet. A number of locations very near the equator which have a tidal range of 15-17 feet.”

You are guilty of cherry picking your data.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

a number of stations closer to the equator have large tidal ranges.

Why are high tides formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?
I am not the author of this question, in science it has long been asked and this is the Achilles heel of the lunar theory of tides.
To answer this question, we need to name 5 gulfs in the equatorial zone, where the height of the tides exceeds 10 meters, otherwise the lunar theory about tides loses logic.
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According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter.
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m,  Ungava Bay Quebec 17, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.

[Bored chemist]

Why are high tides formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?

Why do you think they should be highest at the equator?

[Bored chemist]

this is the Achilles heel of the lunar theory of tides.

Why?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Why are high tides formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator?

Why do you think they should be highest at the equator?

According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

this is the Achilles heel of the lunar theory of tides.

Why?

When high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator - this is chaos (the absence of logic, this is chaos).

[Bored chemist]

When high tides are formed in temperate zones, and not at the equator, it is chaos.

Just saying "it is chaos" doesn't tell us anything.

According to the lunar theory of tides, the Earth's crust at the latitude of London, with a frequency of twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter.

And is that the only thing that makes a difference?
No, obviously not.

[The Spoon]

The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, Ungava Bay Quebec 17, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.
The swirling theory of tides explains this inconsistency by the absence of whirlpools at the equator, as well as cyclones and anticyclones.

I have sailed in the Severn estuary several times and have yet to encounter these whirlpools you seem to think are present.

[Colin2B]

Again, you are being selective with the data. If you look at a map of the world you will see that the equator passes through very few coastal places whereas the 2 temperate zones include a large number of coastal sites, so your two samples are not comparable.
As I pointed out before, your precession theory would result in larger tides at the equator than anywhere else, so the onus is on you to provide the evidence.
In reality the maximum tidal bulge follows the moon’s orbit which does not follow the equator. Many people mistakenly think it does and so make an incorrect assumption.

You say your "theory" solves all the problems.
Please show us ho you  would use it to calculate (as an example) the times of the next few high tides in London, New York or Barcelona or some other place where we can check.
If you can't do that then your idea doesn't even solve the simplest problem.

Unfortunately you are avoiding answering @Bored chemist  and looking at your post I can see why.

The length of the tidal wave depends on the diameter of the whirlpool. And the height of the tidal wave depends on the rotation speed of the whirlpool of the orbital velocity of the Earth, and the time of the tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).
A = V1 • V2 / t
where: A is the amplitude of the tidal wave (precession angle).
V1 - rotation speed of the whirlpool.
V2 is the orbital velocity of the Earth.
t - the time of tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).

The first problem with this formula is that it does not return an amplitude, it produces a number of square metres per second. That is clearly wrong.

Next problem involves timing:

As is known, everything that rotates, including whirlpools, possess the property of a gyro (yule) to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.
If you look at the Earth from the Sun, the whirlpools, rotating together with the Earth, turn over twice a day, due to which the whirlpools precess (swing by 1-2 degrees) and reflect the tidal wave around the entire perimeter of the whirlpool.

A rigid gyroscope on earth will indeed align itself to the sidereal day which is 4mins shorter than the solar day. However, that gives a number of problems for your theory.
Firstly, we know from observation that the main tide period is period is about 12hrs 25mins - half a lunar day - so two tides take 24hrs 50mins which is the average time for the Earth to rotate once relative to the Moon. This is a hugh difference from your difference of 4mins in 24hrs making your double tide period 23hrs 56mins.  Clearly your predictions can never work with this theory.

Your precession theory is also flawed because we are not dealing with a rigid gyroscope, so rather than turning over the water level would rise at one edge until gravity restrained it, leading to a constant level.

I have sailed in the Severn estuary several times and have yet to encounter these whirlpools you seem to think are present.

They don’t exist in the channel or north sea either. He is confusing tidal wave circulation with currents and doesn’t understand the difference.

There are so many false assumptions in these various topics that is hardly worth the effort of replying, especially as the op isn’t listening and just keeps repeating the same old false claims.

[Bored chemist]

 Yusup Hizirov
If the whirlpools existed and caused the tides, then there should be equally high tides all round them.
Do you have data showing anything like that?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Again, you are being selective with the data. If you look at a map of the world you will see that the equator passes through very few coastal places whereas the 2 temperate zones include a large number of coastal sites, so your two samples are not comparable.

Take even wider.
You have the advantage, you collect data at the equator, and I'm in the temperate zone.

According to the lunar theory of tides, the earth's crust at the latitude of London rises and falls twice a day with an amplitude of about 20 cm. At the equator, the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (2.5 times more).
If to argue logically, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35-40 meters.
If, the Bay of Fundy was on the equator, then the height of the tide was 45 meters.

[The Spoon]

Again, you are being selective with the data. If you look at a map of the world you will see that the equator passes through very few coastal places whereas the 2 temperate zones include a large number of coastal sites, so your two samples are not comparable.

Take even wider.
You have the advantage, you collect data at the equator, and I'm in the temperate zone.

According to the lunar theory of tides, the earth's crust at the latitude of London rises and falls twice a day with an amplitude of about 20 cm. At the equator, the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (at the equator 2.5 times more).
If to argue logically, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35-40 meters.

Have you evidence for that assertion?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Again, you are being selective with the data. If you look at a map of the world you will see that the equator passes through very few coastal places whereas the 2 temperate zones include a large number of coastal sites, so your two samples are not comparable.

Take even wider.
You have the advantage, you collect data at the equator, and I'm in the temperate zone.

According to the lunar theory of tides, the earth's crust at the latitude of London rises and falls twice a day with an amplitude of about 20 cm. At the equator, the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter (2.5 times more).
If to argue logically, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35-40 meters.
If, the Bay of Fundy was on the equator, then the height of the tide was 45 meters.

Have you evidence for that assertion?

All these data are on the Internet.
https://ru.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Трудные_темы_курса_физики/Приливные_силы_и_волны
The earth's crust at the latitude of Moscow, with frequency twice a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm. At the equator, the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter.
https:/.../dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enc_geo/6965/приливы
https:/.../slovar.wikireading.ru/1092227