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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #40 on: 31/03/2019 18:12:57 »
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:11:09
It's used to calculate almost everything ,  you just have to put in the values . 

So what values would I need to supply in order for the equation to show me the amount of energy released when hydrogen burns in oxygen?
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #41 on: 31/03/2019 18:20:26 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/03/2019 18:12:57
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:11:09
It's used to calculate almost everything ,  you just have to put in the values . 

So what values would I need to supply in order for the equation to show me the amount of energy released when hydrogen burns in oxygen?
Well you'd have to be really good at math to work that out  because that would be 43b098e3236668ac1d715668f0473e66.gif  the value of u would be the value of hydrogens u . 

What you are asking is for the deeper more complex side of the simplified equation , which is meant for higher education .

I don't know the values personally , that is why I came up with the equation , I don't need to know the intricates for the simplified version to understand the process  and physics of almost everything by using the equation .



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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #42 on: 31/03/2019 18:22:43 »
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:20:26
because that would be   the value of u would be the value of hydrogens u . 

What does the u mean?
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #43 on: 31/03/2019 18:24:32 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/03/2019 18:22:43
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:20:26
because that would be   the value of u would be the value of hydrogens u . 

What does the u mean?
Internal energy , 
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #44 on: 31/03/2019 18:26:42 »
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:24:32
Internal energy , 

I presume that V means volume and t means temperature. Are all of these in standard metric units? Where do the values for oxygen come in?
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #45 on: 31/03/2019 18:31:20 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/03/2019 18:26:42
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:24:32
Internal energy ,

I presume that V means volume and t means temperature. Are all of these in standard metric units? Where do the values for oxygen come in?
Yes it uses all standard metrics , I'm not sure on oxygen , it's something to do with kE between the oxygen and hygrogen causing friction and heat I think .  But that is more deep discussion than my simplified process equation .

added- What I do know about oxygen

Δv = Δ bbf92a1e0a4f46a229a668e9b47bd5f2.gif and ΔV=Δ bbf92a1e0a4f46a229a668e9b47bd5f2.gif e.t.c
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #46 on: 31/03/2019 18:32:50 »
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:31:20
But that is more deep discussion than my simplified process equation .

It sounds like you are saying that your simplified equation can't actually be used for this calculation.

Can you give a specific example of something that can be calculated with it?
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #47 on: 31/03/2019 18:36:40 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/03/2019 18:32:50
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:31:20
But that is more deep discussion than my simplified process equation .

It sounds like you are saying that your simplified equation can't actually be used for this calculation.

Can you give a specific example of something that can be calculated with it?
It's a teaching aid that gives  a simplified understanding of almost every process .  Developed for people who can't do the calculations or understand the calculations you already have .

If you can put the values in it calculates almost everything , but you don't need to do that to understand its simplicity of almost everything .

See oxygen add on in the prior post .

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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #48 on: 31/03/2019 19:40:48 »
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:24:32
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/03/2019 18:22:43
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:20:26
because that would be   the value of u would be the value of hydrogens u . 

What does the u mean?
Internal energy , 
Do you mean this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_energy
Or do you mean something made up?
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #49 on: 31/03/2019 19:51:58 »
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Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:24:32
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Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:20:26
because that would be   the value of u would be the value of hydrogens u . 

What does the u mean?
Internal energy , 
Do you mean this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_energy
Or do you mean something made up?

Of course I mean that , my theory conforms to present physics .
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #50 on: 31/03/2019 20:47:44 »
So, you are looking for the internal energy for oxygen?
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #51 on: 31/03/2019 21:02:24 »
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So, you are looking for the internal energy for oxygen?
Not specifically , somebody else mentioned oxygen . 
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #52 on: 31/03/2019 21:13:07 »
I meant, as part of your demonstration that you are not talking nonsense, by calculating the heat of combustion of hydrogen, you would need to know  the internal energy of oxygen.


I'm guessing you need the same  parameter for hydrogen.
Anything else?
You aren't going to suddenly decide that you need the rate of change of density of jupiter's 23rd biggest satellite or something like that?
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #53 on: 31/03/2019 21:41:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 31/03/2019 21:13:07
I meant, as part of your demonstration that you are not talking nonsense, by calculating the heat of combustion of hydrogen, you would need to know  the internal energy of oxygen.


I'm guessing you need the same  parameter for hydrogen.
Anything else?
You aren't going to suddenly decide that you need the rate of change of density of jupiter's 23rd biggest satellite or something like that?
No not at all lol , what ever that means :D

My equation is just a simplified equation that explains almost everything . 

I mean ask a question , how big is an atom ?

V=bbf92a1e0a4f46a229a668e9b47bd5f2.gif=4/3 π r³ / t

What's exothermic process ?

x=bbf92a1e0a4f46a229a668e9b47bd5f2.gif

Why do gases expand when heated ?

>V = bbf92a1e0a4f46a229a668e9b47bd5f2.gif

It has so many uses , quite magical .  ::)



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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #54 on: 31/03/2019 21:52:50 »
OK, here's a question somebody already asked.
How much heat is released by the  combustion of hydrogen?

What inputs do you need?
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #55 on: 31/03/2019 22:07:45 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 31/03/2019 21:52:50
OK, here's a question somebody already asked.
How much heat is released by the  combustion of hydrogen?

What inputs do you need?
Are you talking about the energy released when an hydrogen atom is split or the heat energy that is generated by kinetics between the friction of particles ?

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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #56 on: 31/03/2019 22:55:21 »
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 21:41:13
I mean ask a question , how big is an atom ?

That's another example of something that we can check against known data. Tell me what each one of those variables in the equation means so that I can do the calculation.

Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 22:07:45
Are you talking about the energy released when an hydrogen atom is split or the heat energy that is generated by kinetics between the friction of particles ?

Neither. Combustion involves the breaking of the bonds in the H2 and O2 molecules and the formation of bonds in H2O.
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #57 on: 31/03/2019 23:04:40 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/03/2019 22:55:21
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 21:41:13
I mean ask a question , how big is an atom ?

That's another example of something that we can check against known data. Tell me what each one of those variables in the equation means so that I can do the calculation.

Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 22:07:45
Are you talking about the energy released when an hydrogen atom is split or the heat energy that is generated by kinetics between the friction of particles ?

Neither. Combustion involves the breaking of the bonds in the H2 and O2 molecules and the formation of bonds in H2O.

I think (u) may be the mass in your question and V would be the occupied volume of space , like I said it is a simplified equation and the intricate details would need adding .

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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #58 on: 31/03/2019 23:08:12 »
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 23:04:40
I think (u) may be the mass in your question and V would be the occupied volume of space

Wait a minute... in order to find out the size of an atom, you have to input the volume of an atom into the equation? That's circular reasoning, as the volume of an atom is already a measure of its size...
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Re: 5d interwoven model and tensor force .
« Reply #59 on: 31/03/2019 23:08:36 »
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 21:41:13
Quote from: Bored chemist on 31/03/2019 21:13:07
I meant, as part of your demonstration that you are not talking nonsense, by calculating the heat of combustion of hydrogen, you would need to know  the internal energy of oxygen.


I'm guessing you need the same  parameter for hydrogen.
Anything else?
You aren't going to suddenly decide that you need the rate of change of density of jupiter's 23rd biggest satellite or something like that?
No not at all lol , what ever that means :D

My equation is just a simplified equation that explains almost everything . 

I mean ask a question , how big is an atom ?

V=bbf92a1e0a4f46a229a668e9b47bd5f2.gif=4/3 π r³ / t

What's exothermic process ?

x=bbf92a1e0a4f46a229a668e9b47bd5f2.gif

Why do gases expand when heated ?

>V = bbf92a1e0a4f46a229a668e9b47bd5f2.gif

It has so many uses , quite magical .  ::)




Ok. If they as you claim, explain these things, give a simple explanation of how they do so.
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