[alancalverd]

Given some of the recent utterances from the White House toilet, I think der Fuhrer already has the standard complement of psychic advisers, astrologers, soothsayers and snake oil merchants. He tells his acolytes that it will all be over by Easter, and like the filth on which he models himself, he has dismissed any expert who disagrees with his arselickers. 

So watch out, Jaweh/Allah/whatever. Either you fix it by 12 April or the real God will be very, very angry - and he has a majority in the Senate!

[Bored chemist]

It seems likely that those who follow the Orange one's advice and crowd into the churches will be rewarded by their Lord with a fast pass to Heaven.

It is interesting to consider what that will do for Trump's electability.

[CliveG]

If you start ascribing evil to God then you need to check your logic and your assumptions.

He created all evil on Earth by deciding to put the serpent in the garden.

Yes - according to OT God, NT God, AT God but not CG God. (see earlier post of mine).

Why do you think I keep stating that my hypothesis, borne out by personal experience, is likely correct? No contradictions!

[CliveG]

Perhaps Trump should hire me as a "psychic advisor"

Srsly?

No. Did I need to put a (tongue in cheek) after the comment.

[CliveG]

The SA lock-down is no joke and is severe.

The problem is lack of protection for the many workers who are still traveling via mini-bus taxi to work and interacting with each other. No planes, no trains, no buses for the next 3 weeks. No jogging or walking the dog.

Stores will sell essential items such as food and medicine. Tobacco and alcohol are prohibited as not only non-essential but causing traffic accidents and fights and the government want to keep hospitals for the infected and not be treating wounds. They say that crime will drop a lot, but are worried about domestic arguments.

I tried to buy methylated spirits at the hardware store. Sold out as people make their homemade hand sanitizer.

The UN is asking countries to cooperate. I still maintain that just as the Black Plague caused massive social benefits, this pandemic has the capacity to do so also.

Over the past year I have had the doctor prescribe two antifungals a day even though I use one a day or less. It is an item I cannot do without and may be in short supply in the coming year. I have prepared and have stock because I was forewarned.

[syhprum]

As a frequent visitor to Germany where the word Fuhrer (leader)  is a word in common use I do not like to see it used in a wartime propaganda manner as an evil leader.

[alancalverd]

 Not even one whose wife said the only book she'd ever seen him read was Mein Kampf? Who holds rallies of his supporters and encourages them to beat up hecklers wherever he goes? Who sacks any expert who disagrees with his propaganda? Who transports families into separate camps if they don't have the correct documents? Who blames everyone else for his own failings? A germophobe with a very restricted diet.... oh, one could go on, but he doesn't have a moustache, and, being a draft dodger,  never rose to the rank of Corporal.

[Bored chemist]

Perhaps Trump should hire me as a "psychic advisor"

Srsly?

No. Did I need to put a (tongue in cheek) after the comment.

It depends.
Are you serious about believing that you can ever predict the future better than guessing?

[Bored chemist]

If you start ascribing evil to God then you need to check your logic and your assumptions.

He created all evil on Earth by deciding to put the serpent in the garden.

Yes - according to OT God, NT God, AT God but not CG God. (see earlier post of mine).

Why do you think I keep stating that my hypothesis, borne out by personal experience, is likely correct? No contradictions!

The problem s that the topic is God, and you keep going on about your personal "version" that's
1 Not The Creator.
2 Not the one people worship
and so on

[jeffreyH]

And God said "Let there not be coronavirus." And there was still coronavirus. "Oh sh1t!", said god, "I don't exist."

[hamdani yusuf]

Just got this in my twitter feed, wich might be related to this topic.

Please show us ANY testable evidence:

1 A god exists
2 That god is yours
3 You are correctly interpreting its rules
 
Look up definitions of testable and evidence first.

https://twitter.com/Ah_Science/status/1242134336880750593?s=03

[CliveG]

Not even one whose wife said the only book she'd ever seen him read was Mein Kampf? Who holds rallies of his supporters and encourages them to beat up hecklers wherever he goes? Who sacks any expert who disagrees with his propaganda? Who transports families into separate camps if they don't have the correct documents? Who blames everyone else for his own failings? A germophobe with a very restricted diet.... oh, one could go on, but he doesn't have a moustache, and, being a draft dodger,  never rose to the rank of Corporal.

Syhprum has a point. You have personalized your feelings about the Holocaust and Hitler represents the most evil person ever. Using the word Fuhrer puts blame on all Germans rather than just Hitler.

There were plenty evil leaders. Shaka Zulu was one. Totally ruthless to other tribes and many of his own people. The Afrikaans side of my family would say the British who invented the first concentration camps in the world and their policy of scorched earth during the Boer war (that Churchill took part in). The Palestinians would say all Israeli leaders for engaging in racist and suppressive policies. Afghanis could point at Bush.

Trump is a outcome of the US system and various US policies. Hitler was an outcome of the Versailles Treaty and various other political forces. The Holocaust (the Final Solution) got its start in American eugenics.

A biased person is unable to see any positives in something they are opposed to. I see positives in Trump. I also see the negatives. I could say the same for Hitler (building an industrialized nation from almost nothing), but that would invite a torrent of abuse.

It is much the same with peoples view of God. I see positives and I also see how people can be upset that he is not more proactive.

I met my sixth wife after 5 failed marriages. She had two abusive marriages. My ex-wives were not 100% bad and I recognize that they had their good points, otherwise why would I have married them? When my sixth wife died from cancer after 4 amazing years with her, she said while she knew God had his reasons for her death and not saving her, she was somewhat bitter that she only had four years with me. While I was upset and grieved, I could see the plan. My wife said to me the week she died "You knew in January." I had sensed she was "moving away from me" and I was very attentive and loving. She wondered why. It was in March she was diagnosed with cancer and died in July.

I was told of a man who got divorced after 25 miserable years. He met his perfect woman also. And then 4 years later she died. He was a very religious man and he blamed God. He was very bitter and while not quite an atheist he had nothing good to say about God.

I accepted my late wife's death. I sensed it was part of God's plan for me. And I have sensed the path. I may be wrong but I live my live according to what I think the plan is.

[CliveG]

Perhaps Trump should hire me as a "psychic advisor"

Srsly?

No. Did I need to put a (tongue in cheek) after the comment.

It depends.
Are you serious about believing that you can ever predict the future better than guessing?

Absolutely positive. Have you forgotten all the examples I have given? How did I know the biker was about to die?

There are Determinists who say our future is set in stone with absolute cause and effect. See this.

whohttps://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p086tg3k/the-physics-that-suggests-our-future-is-set-in-stone

They do not say what the prime cause is. They do not accept the influence of a spirit world. When knew the biker was about to die I slowed down. That act set off a different chain of events. You could argue that my "knowing" was pre-determined, but you cannot explain the causes that had to occur to set up that thought. All you can do is say that those causes HAD to happen because the event happened. That presumes determinism.

[jeffreyH]

[Bored chemist]

The Afrikaans side of my family would say the British who invented the first concentration camps in the world

Do the non-Afrikaans side get it wrong?
It's a matter of historical fact.

The word "Fuhrer" is just one example of many words stolen from other languages, and abused by English.
I can see it's annoying- just as  cringe when I hear the phrase "quantum leap". But it's hardly the end of the world.

[alancalverd]

Using the word Fuhrer puts blame on all Germans rather than just Hitler.

He was democratically elected more than once, adopted the title Fuhrer in place of Kanzler in 1934,  and had no problem raising an army who proudly documented their butchery of noncombatants. The behavior of subsequent generations has however been admirable, and it is notable that no subsequent head of state has used the term. Fact is that as soon as I used the word in the context of Trump, everyone understood the allusion and nobody has argued with my analysis of his methods.

Today's interesting twist is that Mr T is threatening to withdraw Federal broadcasting licences from TV companies that have been broadcasting his speeches with a moving banner of contradictory facts. Add Goebbels to the comparison. 

Yes, the British did indeed invent concentration camps.

British concentration camps refers to camps operated by the British in South Africa during the Second Anglo-Boer War from 1900–1902. The term concentration camp grew in prominence during that period. The camps had originally been set up by the British Army as refugee camps to provide refuge for civilian families who had been forced to abandon their homes for whatever reason related to the war.

It turned into a shambles due to overcrowding and disease, but  their use for slave labor and industrialised slaughter of civilians was an entirely German innovation. So far, there is no evidence that Trump's camps have produced anything more than misery, but he has yet to be re-elected.

Which brings me back to Tarot. The Simpsons correctly predicted Trump's presidency 17 years ago. What odds do the cards give on (a) his re-election (b) a deferred election (c) a constitutional amendment allowing more than two terms or (d) a grateful Senate conferring life presidency over the smoking ruins of civilisation? 

[CliveG]

If you start ascribing evil to God then you need to check your logic and your assumptions.

He created all evil on Earth by deciding to put the serpent in the garden.

Yes - according to OT God, NT God, AT God but not CG God. (see earlier post of mine).

Why do you think I keep stating that my hypothesis, borne out by personal experience, is likely correct? No contradictions!

The problem s that the topic is God, and you keep going on about your personal "version" that's
1 Not The Creator.
2 Not the one people worship
and so on

How about my "personal" version being the most accurate? God is logical - and my version is the most logical. There is only one God, but many versions (descriptions of attributes), and a number of puzzling contradictions. You want to claim I am "off-topic" because you do not like an accurate description of who the Creator actually is? God may have been empowered by the Ultimate Intelligence to do the Creation but everything, including God is an illusion.

My credentials are pretty good to support my credibility as a "witness" to events that are possible.

My version was mentioned in the Netflix series, Norman seeks enlightenment about the meaning of life. Sandy (Michael Douglas) chips in "That the universe in a dream in the mind of God?" It is not like the concept is not known.

This joke illustrates the revisions that are possible in the intelligent design of humans.

Dear God. Could you please uninstall the year 2020, and download an improved version. The current version has a bad virus.

[CliveG]

Yes, the British did indeed invent concentration camps.
Quote

    British concentration camps refers to camps operated by the British in South Africa during the Second Anglo-Boer War from 1900–1902. The term concentration camp grew in prominence during that period. The camps had originally been set up by the British Army as refugee camps to provide refuge for civilian families who had been forced to abandon their homes for whatever reason related to the war.

It turned into a shambles due to overcrowding and disease, but  their use for slave labor and industrialised slaughter of civilians was an entirely German innovation. So far, there is no evidence that Trump's camps have produced anything more than misery, but he has yet to be re-elected.

I have the advantage of talking to older relatives and relatives whose parents talked about the camps. You also need to read some accurate history. The English side of my family was a grandfather who fought for the British. The English of the time has some hardened heartless men who thought that Brits were the super race and all others had to obey or be punished. The Boers would take their rifles and kill off the English by sighting along the barrel in the moonlight - then disappear back to their families and farms.

The camps were to house the women and children after their farms were destroyed. The men fled and were forced to attack the British on their terms. The supply wagons were destroyed by the Boers but that meant no supplies for the camps. The guards got mean and made life miserable for their prisoners. There was propaganda and misinformation on both sides.

The Boers hated the English and took over South Africa by infiltrating the government service, learning and gerrymandering to win in 1948 - at the end of the war. The English had already set up Apartheid with the Afrikaner as unofficial second class citizens and non-whites as third class citizens. Gandhi was booted off the first class of the train in 1983 in the British colony.

Oppenheimer worked with the Afrikaners to set up the township of Soweto. They have a monument to him there but they miss the point that he did it because he needed labor for the gold mines. Soweto had running water and sewerage and electricity. I know because as a student I was tasked with going there to count rooms in the houses. I was well received by the occupants. In the Nelson Mandela house they state that these utilities were not there. Yes - they were. But not for the illegal squatters who surrounded the formal township. Propaganda by the victors who rewrite history.

[CliveG]

And God said "Let there not be coronavirus." And there was still coronavirus. "Oh sh1t!", said god, "I don't exist."

"Even the most obstinately ignorant cannot avoid learning when in an environment that educates."

Good quote:
A pandemic - coming soon and allowed by God because it will result in an environment that educates and those who do not will be followed by a newer educated spiritual generation.

[Kryptid]

How far into the future can you make a prediction?