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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #120 on: 02/06/2020 20:43:48 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 02/06/2020 20:01:30
Not synchronous rotation.

Planets that are sufficiently close to their stars are thought to be tidally-locked. That has no bearing on the definition of a planet.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #121 on: 02/06/2020 20:52:11 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 02/06/2020 20:18:13
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 02/06/2020 04:17:04
Quote from: Kryptid on 02/06/2020 01:19:25
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 01/06/2020 19:33:31
A planet is an object of the solar system that has an atmosphere and axial speed. (Pluto).

Not according to the International Astronomical Union: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_definition_of_planet
A planet, this is an object of the solar system whose atmosphere rotates in the direction of rotation of the planet. (Pluto-?). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_definition_of_planet
Why have you completely ignored the accepted definition even when quoting it? You don't interact when it is pointed out how wrong you are - is this stupidity or are you just trolling?
8. A planet is an object in the solar system that has an atmosphere, axial speed, etc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_definition_of_planet
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #122 on: 02/06/2020 20:55:37 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 02/06/2020 20:52:11
8. A planet is an object in the solar system that has an atmosphere, axial speed, etc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_definition_of_planet

I don't see anywhere on that page that supports this claim.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #123 on: 02/06/2020 21:05:41 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 02/06/2020 20:43:48
Planets that are sufficiently close to their stars are thought to be.
You have evidence that planets revolve around stars. Give me a link.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #124 on: 02/06/2020 21:07:29 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 02/06/2020 21:05:41
You have evidence that planets revolve around stars. Give me a link.

Planets are objects that revolve around stars by definition. I already gave you a link to the IAU's definition of a planet.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #125 on: 02/06/2020 22:32:38 »
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Quote from: Kryptid on 02/06/2020 20:43:48
Planets that are sufficiently close to their stars are thought to be.
You have evidence that planets revolve around stars. Give me a link.
Trolling or stupidity?
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #126 on: 03/06/2020 14:03:08 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 02/06/2020 22:32:38
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 02/06/2020 21:05:41
Quote from: Kryptid on 02/06/2020 20:43:48
Planets that are sufficiently close to their stars are thought to be.
You have evidence that planets revolve around stars. Give me a link.
Trolling or stupidity?
Everything is relative!!!
The mechanics of rotation of cyclones, anticyclones, cycles and galaxies, one and the same. This can be easily verified by comparing these two pictures. https://images.app.goo.gl/zLQoi7Ht9LgyfNog9 https://images.app.goo.gl/236YjBU99CywjA1y8
If the stars circled around the center of the galaxy with such huge speeds, then the stars that are on the periphery of the galaxy flew out of their orbits, because the farther away from the core the star, the greater the orbital speed of the star.
And in the solar system, the opposite is true, the farther away from the Sun the planet is, the lower the planet’s orbital speed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curve
This suggests that in the center of cyclones, anticyclones and galaxies, there is not mass, which should create gravity, but the eye of the storm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_(cyclone) https://life.ru/p/907112
Галлактики, циклоны и круговороты, представляют собой единый медленно вращающийся "монолит", которые вращаются как крышка от бензобака и не подчиняются закону всемирного тяготения.
Черные дыры покидают свои галлактики. https://news.rambler.ru/scitech/43938566-astronomy-pokazali-kak-chernye-dyry-pokidayut-svoi-galaktiki/
Astronomers accidentally discovered a strange star escaping from the Milky Way.
https://in-space.ru/astronomy-sluchajno-obnaruzhili-strannuyu-zvezdu-ubegayushhuyu-iz-mlechnogo-puti/
The black hole spawned a unique kind of planet. https://m.lenta.ru/news/2020/04/27/hole/amp/
Regeneration of cyclones. https://slide-share.ru/regeneraciya-anticiklonov-28872
The mechanism of formation of cyclones, anticyclones, whirlpools and galaxies is similar.
"The laws of nature are universal." Lao Tzu.

There are no answers to the following questions:
1. In the solar system, all eight planets revolve around the sun in the same plane.
a) And the stars, rotating around the nucleus of the galaxy, form dozens of planes.
b) What force is involved in the formation of the lenticular form of the galaxy?
c) Within the laws of celestial mechanics, stars should revolve around the core of the galaxy, in only one plane, similar to the planets of the solar system.
2. The statement that globular star clusters are satellites of galaxies and rotate in very elongated orbits at a speed of ≈ 200 km / s also goes beyond celestial mechanics. https://images.app.goo.gl/goz9RPyJb3QqMxEZ7
a) If spherical star clusters revolved around the galaxy, then spherical star clusters had the shape of a disk. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy
b) Is it possible for Saturn and its satellites to revolve around the Sun in the form of a globular cluster?
3. In globular star clusters,
there is no orbital rotation of stars.
a) Then what forces form a globular cluster of stars, if it is not levitation?
4. If globular star clusters are satellites of galaxies, then globular star clusters, like all planet satellites, must possess all the signs of satellites: axis of rotation, libration, etc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globular_cluster
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #127 on: 03/06/2020 15:38:17 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 03/06/2020 14:03:08
The mechanics of rotation of cyclones, anticyclones, cycles and galaxies, one and the same. This can be easily verified by comparing these two pictures.

You are being ridiculous. Saying they behave the same because they look the same is complete nonsense. Cyclones are heat engines driven by the atmosphere. Galaxies are held together by gravity.

Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 03/06/2020 14:03:08
If the stars circled around the center of the galaxy with such huge speeds, then the stars that are on the periphery of the galaxy flew out of their orbits, because the farther away from the core the star, the greater the orbital speed of the star.

Please demonstrate that they would fly away with some mathematics or other actual evidence. I'm not going to take your word for it.

Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 03/06/2020 14:03:08
This suggests that in the center of cyclones, anticyclones and galaxies, there is not mass, which should create gravity, but the eye of the storm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_(cyclone) https://life.ru/p/907112

Verifiably incorrect. Do you recall that image of the super-massive black hole that was taken by the Event Horizon Telescope? That was at the center of the galaxy M87.

Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 03/06/2020 14:03:08
There are no answers to the following questions:
1. In the solar system, all eight planets revolve around the sun in the same plane.
a) And the stars, rotating around the nucleus of the galaxy, form dozens of planes.
b) What force is involved in the formation of the lenticular form of the galaxy?
c) Within the laws of celestial mechanics, stars should revolve around the core of the galaxy, in only one plane, similar to the planets of the solar system.
2. The statement that globular star clusters are satellites of galaxies and rotate in very elongated orbits at a speed of ≈ 200 km / s also goes beyond celestial mechanics. https://images.app.goo.gl/goz9RPyJb3QqMxEZ7
a) If spherical star clusters revolved around the galaxy, then spherical star clusters had the shape of a disk. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy
b) Is it possible for Saturn and its satellites to revolve around the Sun in the form of a globular cluster?
3. In globular star clusters,
there is no orbital rotation of stars.
a) Then what forces form a globular cluster of stars, if it is not levitation?
4. If globular star clusters are satellites of galaxies, then globular star clusters, like all planet satellites, must possess all the signs of satellites: axis of rotation, libration, etc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globular_cluster

Repeatedly asserting that we have not answered these questions just makes you look bad.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #128 on: 04/06/2020 12:30:41 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 04/06/2020 12:28:39
Galaxies, cyclones and cycles, are a single slowly rotating "monolith" that rotates like a gas tank cover and does not obey the law of universal gravitation.
You missed this question.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #129 on: 04/06/2020 15:18:31 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 04/06/2020 12:30:41
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 04/06/2020 12:28:39
Galaxies, cyclones and cycles, are a single slowly rotating "monolith" that rotates like a gas tank cover and does not obey the law of universal gravitation.
You missed this question.
Do you know what a question actually is?
Because you just said we missed one, but there was none there to miss.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #130 on: 04/06/2020 15:59:03 »
Everything is relative!!!
The mechanics of rotation of cyclones, anticyclones, cycles and galaxies, one and the same. This can be easily verified by comparing these two pictures. https://images.app.goo.gl/zLQoi7Ht9LgyfNog9 https://images.app.goo.gl/236YjBU99CywjA1y8
If the stars circled around the center of the galaxy with such huge speeds, then the stars that are on the periphery of the galaxy would fly out of their orbits, because the farther away from the nucleus the star, the greater the orbital speed of the star.
And in the solar system, the opposite is true, the farther away from the Sun the planet is, the lower the planet’s orbital speed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curve
This suggests that in the center of cyclones, anticyclones and galaxies, there is not mass, which should create gravity, but the eye of the storm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_(cyclone) https://life.ru/p/907112
Galaxies, cyclones and cycles, are a single slowly rotating "monolith" that rotates like a gas tank cover and does not obey the law of universal gravitation.
Black holes leave their galaxies. https://news.rambler.ru/scitech/43938566-astronomy-pokazali-kak-chernye-dyry-pokidayut-svoi-galaktiki/
Astronomers accidentally discovered a strange star escaping from the Milky Way.
https://in-space.ru/astronomy-sluchajno-obnaruzhili-strannuyu-zvezdu-ubegayushhuyu-iz-mlechnogo-puti/
The black hole spawned a unique kind of planet. https://m.lenta.ru/news/2020/04/27/hole/amp/
Regeneration of cyclones. https://slide-share.ru/regeneraciya-anticiklonov-28872
The mechanism of formation of cyclones, anticyclones, whirlpools and galaxies is similar.
"The laws of nature are universal." Lao Tzu.

The statement that the entire star rotates around the center of the galaxy with the same angular velocities goes beyond the laws of celestial mechanics.
In the solar system, the angular velocity of Neptune is hundreds of times less than that of Mercury. https://images.app.goo.gl/xWiXQTMfThVTsEy66
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #131 on: 04/06/2020 16:10:22 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 04/06/2020 12:30:41
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 04/06/2020 12:28:39
Galaxies, cyclones and cycles, are a single slowly rotating "monolith" that rotates like a gas tank cover and does not obey the law of universal gravitation.
You missed this question.
It is hardly a question - it is words that when put together comprise nonsensical gibberish and betray a lack of scientific knowledge.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #132 on: 04/06/2020 16:14:23 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 04/06/2020 15:59:03
Everything is relative!!!
Blah, blah, blah
You do realise that reposting nonsense doesn't make it right?
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #133 on: 04/06/2020 20:12:45 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 04/06/2020 15:59:03
Everything is relative!!!
The mechanics of rotation of cyclones, anticyclones, cycles and galaxies, one and the same. This can be easily verified by comparing these two pictures. https://images.app.goo.gl/zLQoi7Ht9LgyfNog9 https://images.app.goo.gl/236YjBU99CywjA1y8
If the stars circled around the center of the galaxy with such huge speeds, then the stars that are on the periphery of the galaxy would fly out of their orbits, because the farther away from the nucleus the star, the greater the orbital speed of the star.
And in the solar system, the opposite is true, the farther away from the Sun the planet is, the lower the planet’s orbital speed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curve
This suggests that in the center of cyclones, anticyclones and galaxies, there is not mass, which should create gravity, but the eye of the storm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_(cyclone) https://life.ru/p/907112
Galaxies, cyclones and cycles, are a single slowly rotating "monolith" that rotates like a gas tank cover and does not obey the law of universal gravitation.
Black holes leave their galaxies. https://news.rambler.ru/scitech/43938566-astronomy-pokazali-kak-chernye-dyry-pokidayut-svoi-galaktiki/
Astronomers accidentally discovered a strange star escaping from the Milky Way.
https://in-space.ru/astronomy-sluchajno-obnaruzhili-strannuyu-zvezdu-ubegayushhuyu-iz-mlechnogo-puti/
The black hole spawned a unique kind of planet. https://m.lenta.ru/news/2020/04/27/hole/amp/
Regeneration of cyclones. https://slide-share.ru/regeneraciya-anticiklonov-28872
The mechanism of formation of cyclones, anticyclones, whirlpools and galaxies is similar.
"The laws of nature are universal." Lao Tzu.

The statement that the entire star rotates around the center of the galaxy with the same angular velocities goes beyond the laws of celestial mechanics.
In the solar system, the angular velocity of Neptune is hundreds of times less than that of Mercury. https://images.app.goo.gl/xWiXQTMfThVTsEy66

I'm starting to think that this constant copy-pasting of your previous posts while simultaneously failing to address arguments against your ideas would count as spam and violates the "not inviting critical debate" rule. As such, I'm considering talking with the other moderators about disciplinary action. This is a habit of yours that has gone on for far too long unchecked.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #134 on: 12/06/2020 07:40:56 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 23/02/2020 11:49:26
The solar Coriolis effect is involved in the formation of the ellipse of the moon.
When the Moon, rotating around the Earth in the fourth phase, approaches the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, and in the second phase it moves away from the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, the Coriolis Solar Force stretches the Moon’s orbit along the Earth’s orbit, due to which an ellipse of the Moon is formed.
When the moon is in the phase of the new moon and the full moon, the solar Coriolis effect does not affect the orbit of the moon, because in these phases the moon does not approach and does not move away from the sun.
The lunar ellipse can be mathematically expressed (but not calculated) using the following formula. E = Vz / Vl
Where Vz - Orbital angular velocity of the Earth.
Vl - Orbital angular velocity of the moon.
The solar Coriolis effect stretches the orbit of the Earth’s artificial satellites along the Earth’s orbit.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #135 on: 13/06/2020 11:51:40 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 12/06/2020 07:40:56
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 23/02/2020 11:49:26
The solar Coriolis effect is involved in the formation of the ellipse of the moon.
When the Moon, rotating around the Earth in the fourth phase, approaches the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, and in the second phase it moves away from the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, the Coriolis Solar Force stretches the Moon’s orbit along the Earth’s orbit, due to which an ellipse of the Moon is formed.
When the moon is in the phase of the new moon and the full moon, the solar Coriolis effect does not affect the orbit of the moon, because in these phases the moon does not approach and does not move away from the sun.
The lunar ellipse can be mathematically expressed (but not calculated) using the following formula. E = Vz / Vl
Where Vz - Orbital angular velocity of the Earth.
Vl - Orbital angular velocity of the moon.
The solar Coriolis effect stretches the orbit of the Earth’s artificial satellites along the Earth’s orbit.
I am guessing you are unfamiliar with the phrase 'flogging a dead Horse'.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #136 on: 18/06/2020 22:21:11 »
The solar power of Coriolis participates in the formation of the ellipse of the moon.
When the Moon revolving around the Earth in the fourth quarter approaches the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, and in the second quarter moves away from the Sun at a speed of 1 km / s, the Coriolis Solar Force stretches the moon’s orbit along the Earth’s orbit, which forms an ellipse of the Moon.
When the moon is in the phase of the new moon and the full moon, the Coriolis solar power does not affect the orbit of the moon, because in these phases, the moon does not approach or move away from the sun.
http://www.sat.belastro.net/glava2/glava2.php#p1.2.c
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_eccentricity
The eccentricity of the orbit of the moon can be calculated by the following formula. E = Vz / Vl.
Where Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.
Vl - Orbital velocity of the moon.
 
The Earth’s orbital speed is 30 degrees per month.
The orbital speed of the moon is 360 degrees per month.
E = 30/360 = 0.083
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #137 on: 19/06/2020 14:26:30 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/06/2020 22:21:11
The Earth’s orbital speed is 30 degrees per month.
The orbital speed of the moon is 360 degrees per month.
E = 30/360 = 0.083

You know that's the wrong answer, don't you?
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #138 on: 19/06/2020 17:06:48 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 19/06/2020 14:26:30
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/06/2020 22:21:11
The Earth’s orbital speed is 30 degrees per month.
The orbital speed of the moon is 360 degrees per month.
E = 30/360 = 0.083

You know that's the wrong answer, don't you?
It's not just that it's the wrong answer (the right answer is nearer to 1/13 than 1/12), but it's the wrong answer to the wrong question.



Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/06/2020 22:21:11
The eccentricity of the orbit of the moon can be calculated by the following formula. E = Vz / Vl
Where Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.
Vl - Orbital velocity of the moon.
No, it isn't.
And there's no reason to imagine that it would be.
The right answer is about 0.0549.
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Re: The Coriolis Force on Earth and in the Universe
« Reply #139 on: 19/06/2020 19:47:53 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/06/2020 17:06:48
Quote from: Kryptid on 19/06/2020 14:26:30
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/06/2020 22:21:11
The Earth’s orbital speed is 30 degrees per month.
The orbital speed of the moon is 360 degrees per month.
E = 30/360 = 0.083

You know that's the wrong answer, don't you?
It's not just that it's the wrong answer (the right answer is nearer to 1/13 than 1/12), but it's the wrong answer to the wrong question.
Well, It really depends on what "month" you use.  There are a bit over 12 1/3 synodic (full moon to full moon) months in a year, and a bit over 13 1/3 sidereal months ( measured relative to the stars)
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Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 18/06/2020 22:21:11
The eccentricity of the orbit of the moon can be calculated by the following formula. E = Vz / Vl
Where Vz - Orbital velocity of the Earth.
Vl - Orbital velocity of the moon.
No, it isn't.
And there's no reason to imagine that it would be.
The right answer is about 0.0549.

Agreed, there is no connection between Lunar Orbital eccentricity and the ratio of its orbital period to the Earth's orbital period.
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