[alancalverd]

Courts have the discretion to reject a vexatious litigant or to dismiss a case where no evidence has been filed by the prosecution or the alleged act is not an offence within the jurisdiction of the court.

[Bored chemist]

I think the court can also punish a vexatious litigant for contempt.
With a tally of something like 60 vacuous cases, the Trump camp should be careful.

[alancalverd]

I use the "small claims" procedure  to chase late payers. Very good system: you have to pay a (small) percentage of the claim into the court to start the ball rolling, so nobody files without good evidence. Problem is that if you are bankrupt or unemployed, the deposit may be waived - and Trump is both!

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Share with you this time magazine article

I see that you and someone I know on the opposite side of the world post the same claims about Donald Trump, on roughly the same day.
What echo chamber is controlling your views of Donald Trump?

I was just up late.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

I think the court can also punish a vexatious litigant for contempt.
With a tally of something like 60 vacuous cases, the Trump camp should be careful.

There are not vacuous,  they refused to hear them, Trump never got a pre-trial.

And with the supreme court some judges did vote to have the case heard.  The majority didn't.

The majority closed their eyes and refused to look. Shambolic, they are given life time membership on the supreme court so they can act without fear, and they didnt. They have shown themselves partial well not all, but the majority.

[Kryptid]

There are not vacuous

Various government departments didn't find evidence of widespread voter fraud, which is pretty strong evidence that Trump's cases were vacuous (please don't say that those departments were in on the conspiracy. Please!): https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/its-official-election-was-secure

[alancalverd]

And with the supreme court some judges did vote to have the case heard.  The majority didn't.

The majority being Trump's appointees or sitting Republicans. His appointed Attorney General said there was no case to put, and resigned.

PUS was clearly insane but nobody had the guts to invoke the 25th amendment, preferring to see the GOP committing political suicide instead.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

And with the supreme court some judges did vote to have the case heard.  The majority didn't.

The majority being Trump's appointees or sitting Republicans. His appointed Attorney General said there was no case to put, and resigned.

Same attorney general that effectively screwed Trump over during the impeachment. It's very clear today that Mr Burr was an enemy of Trumps

PUS was clearly insane but nobody had the guts to invoke the 25th amendment, preferring to see the GOP committing political suicide instead.

By No one you mean Mike Pence.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

There are not vacuous

Various government departments didn't find evidence of widespread voter fraud, which is pretty strong evidence that Trump's cases were vacuous (please don't say that those departments were in on the conspiracy. Please!): https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/its-official-election-was-secure

Relates to Russian or foreign interference, not democratic interference,  the report clearly missed the giant Cabal that was suppressing information, controlling the information flow and unconstitutionally changing election laws.
What a great report.

[alancalverd]

It's very clear today that Mr Burr was an enemy of Trumps

So either the Wisest President Ever deliberately chose an enemy as Attorney General, which seems unlikely, or His Holiness did something so egregious that his personal arselicker resigned rather than be associated with a sinking rat.

[alancalverd]

By No one you mean Mike Pence.

or anyone else. The 25th amendment requires Congressional approval.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/its-official-election-was-secure

We need to look back at the claims of the Cabal. They claimed they were fortifying democracy.

The issue is what do they mean by democracy?

To quote chomsky

"Let me begin by counter-posing two different conceptions of democracy. One conception of democracy has it that a democratic society is one in which the public has the means to participate in some meaningful way in the management of their own affairs and the means of information are open and free. . . .

An alternative conception of democracy is that the public must be barred from managing of their own affairs and the means of information must be kept narrowly and rigidly controlled. That may sound like an odd conception of democracy, but it’s important to understand that it is the prevailing conception"

In this sense this cabal of business leaders oligarchs and civil rights activists were absolutely acting to defend democracy but their definition of democracy is that the public  must be barred from managing of their own affairs.

This article is a total confession that they rigged the election to prevent the population choosing a leader the establishment didn't want.

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

A quote from the article:-

"even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people,"

Who have chomskys secound definition as their defintion


ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to"

The imposed illusion.

"influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information."

A requirement of the secound definition is to heavily control information flow


 "They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it."

Yes they were fortifying their definition of democracy.


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In a great piece of journalism from Jimmy dore looking into this conspiracy.
One of the civil rights activists that approached Twitter and Facebook to increase censorship as part of this conspiracy has now been given a job in the Biden administration.

[Kryptid]

Relates to Russian or foreign interference, not democratic interference

Where do you get that? Election fraud is a form of democratic interference.

[Bored chemist]

This article is a total confession that they rigged the election to prevent the population choosing a leader the establishment didn't want.

Explaining to voters that Trump is incompetent is not "rigging the election".

Incidentally, perhaps you could tell us which of Biden's actual policies you object to and why.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Relates to Russian or foreign interference, not democratic interference

Where do you get that? Election fraud is a form of democratic interference.

The report you reference was set up in response to allegations of Russian interference.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

This article is a total confession that they rigged the election to prevent the population choosing a leader the establishment didn't want.

Explaining to voters that Trump is incompetent is not "rigging the election".

You have a very strange definition of "explaining"

Incidentally, perhaps you could tell us which of Biden's actual policies you object to and why.

Wow where to being?

Well on day one of his administration,  Biden decided to send more troops to Syria. 

He is also breaking previous agreements with Afghanistan to remove troops from the country and so is leaving them there.

He is also filling up his entire administration with people from the corporate sector just like Obama did, and his picks are horrible.

His administration is also along with people like Mike Pompeo pushing propaganda about Iran in a possible build up to war with the country.

Biden has already stated he will recognise Mr Guaido as Venezuelas President. even tho Mr Guaido no longer holds any public office in the country.

Biden is pushing ahead hard, with the extradition of Julian Assange.

He has also stated publicly that Russian Aggression will no longer be tolerated and cited the now debunked lie of Russia gate as evidence of that aggression.

He told all Americans before the election they would be sent 2000 dollar checks if they voted for him. He is now claiming he meant 14 hundred dollars checks that combined with the 600 dollars they previously received will add up to 2000 dollars. So broke a campaign pledged and lied.

This is just looking at some of his current activities...

Biden is a war mongering neo liberal tool of corrupt corporate power and nothing good for America or the world will emerge from his administration

[Jolly2 (OP)]

A long long time ago
Yet some can still remember
There was a crash upon wall street
And people queued for a long time
Trying to get food to survive
And things went a bit nutty
For a while.

And now it's all just happened again
To increase the wealth of a few rich men
And well its really all insane

The day the system died

So bye bye the American lie
They gone commie it's not funny and they're in the house white
I heard Bidens speak
And I started to cry
Thinking oh my God the systems just fried
Of my God the systems just died.

Did you write the book of law?
Do you have faith anymore,
When the politicans tell you so?
Do you believe in the free market
Should the system save wall street from dip?
Can you teach me what to do with my cash floow?

Well I know Biden' a commie now,
Given half the country to ho ming tao.
Just dont know what do...

so I'll write another lyric or two, ouu

I was a lonely teenage investor jock
With a small portfolio and some game stop stock.
And a I knew would sell me more stock the day the system died.

I STARTED SINGING

Bye bye the American lie
They gone commie it's not funny and they're in the house white
I heard Biden speak
And I started to cry
Thinking
Oh my God the systems just fired

Oh my God the systems just died...

[Bored chemist]

He is also filling up his entire administration with people from the corporate sector just like Obama did, and his picks are horrible.

What fraction of them have criminal convictions and how does this compare to Trump?
How many of them are his family and how does this compare to Trump.

pushing propaganda about Iran in a possible build up to war with the country.

Pure speculation.

Biden has already stated he will recognise Mr Guaido as Venezuelas President.

Well, with  China, Cuba, Iran, Russia, Syria, and Turkey supporting Maduro, that seems like a good move.
|It means he's aligned with the Western world. (And, of course, that also demonstrates Trump's political links with Russia).

Biden is pushing ahead hard, with the extradition of Julian Assange.

Yep, but it's not happening. The UK already ruled that it would be ilegal.

He has also stated publicly that Russian Aggression

See the comments on Venezuela.


Don't get me wrong; I'm not a huge fan of Biden.
But all he has to be, for me to celebrate,  is better than Trump; and he is.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

He is also filling up his entire administration with people from the corporate sector just like Obama did, and his picks are horrible.

What fraction of them have criminal convictions and how does this compare to Trump?
How many of them are his family and how does this compare to Trump.

What criminal convictions?

pushing propaganda about Iran in a possible build up to war with the country.

Pure speculation.

Ok when war breaks out you'll finally accept they want one. Great

Biden has already stated he will recognise Mr Guaido as Venezuelas President.

Well, with  China, Cuba, Iran, Russia, Syria, and Turkey supporting Maduro, that seems like a good move.
|It means he's aligned with the Western world. (And, of course, that also demonstrates Trump's political links with Russia).

Very Democratic.  Former us presidents like Cater over saw the elections in Venezuela, they were fine. You are a toady for the swamp.

Biden is pushing ahead hard, with the extradition of Julian Assange.

Yep, but it's not happening. The UK already ruled that it would be ilegal.

It's being appealed.  So much for British justice Assange is in prison and being tortured by Britian with out any crime committed. His year for skipping a bail hearing is over.

He has also stated publicly that Russian Aggression

See the comments on Venezuela.


Don't get me wrong; I'm not a huge fan of Biden.
But all he has to be, for me to celebrate,  is better than Trump; and he is.

No he isnt, in no way is Biden better, the many who will now die in wars Trump didnt and wouldn't launch will show that.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/its-official-election-was-secure

We need to look back at the claims of the Cabal. They claimed they were fortifying democracy.

The issue is what do they mean by democracy?

To quote chomsky

"Let me begin by counter-posing two different conceptions of democracy. One conception of democracy has it that a democratic society is one in which the public has the means to participate in some meaningful way in the management of their own affairs and the means of information are open and free. . . .

An alternative conception of democracy is that the public must be barred from managing of their own affairs and the means of information must be kept narrowly and rigidly controlled. That may sound like an odd conception of democracy, but it’s important to understand that it is the prevailing conception"

In this sense this cabal of business leaders oligarchs and civil rights activists were absolutely acting to defend democracy but their definition of democracy is that the public  must be barred from managing of their own affairs.

This article is a total confession that they rigged the election to prevent the population choosing a leader the establishment didn't want.

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

A quote from the article:-

"even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people,"

Who have chomskys secound definition as their defintion


ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to"

The imposed illusion.

"influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information."

A requirement of the secound definition is to heavily control information flow


 "They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it."

Yes they were fortifying their definition of democracy.


---

In a great piece of journalism from Jimmy dore looking into this conspiracy.
One of the civil rights activists that approached Twitter and Facebook to increase censorship as part of this conspiracy has now been given a job in the Biden administration.

Under the first definition of democracy which most Trump supporters believe, the election was categorically stolen.

Under the secound, faking elections is what democracy is.