[Kryptid]

Do you know what the word theory means in science?

I don't answer ludicrous questions.

Please explain why that question is ludicrous.

[captcass (OP)]

Do only Christians have a spiritual side.

I assume a person with a spiritual side would be happy to consider a model originating with the Creator. If not, please tell me why.

You folks keep talking about Jesus. You are assuming I am a Christian. Typical anti-faith bigotry stereotyping. I am not a Christian. I think it is a shame Constantine declared Jesus a god, removing what he did from the common man's grasp. Jesus was a Jew who told lepers to go to the temple and perform the rituals once they were well. In those days any skin rash could be considered "leprosy" and a lot of folk just got well.

He said anyone could be like him and washed the feet of his disciples to show he was just like anyone else, perhaps even lower.

I am simply telling you what he and the other mystical founders, Krishna, Buddha, Abraham, Moses taught. There are no rote prayers, no dances or rituals.

Your ego is a small part of you manifested by your greater Self, just like your liver. Your greater Self is the very life within you manifesting you through every cell. This is the Creator creating you. So go to your room and close the door so you are not self-conscious and roll your eyes up (not down) and put your attention within through the third eye. Assume a "holy" spirit (it is instinctual) and love your Self. That's it. Just love your greater Self with your ego, which It manifests.

That is spirituality. The rest people do to share in that love communally, as brothers and sisters in the One Life. This is in all faiths, which comprise about 95% of the Earth's population last time I checked. Which makes you someone who belongs to a very small minority who are really, really smarter than everyone else in the world, or someone who lacks the spiritual instinct. Even animals have that, Lions don't murder, they predate when they have to. Otherwise they respect all other life.... We see species adopt the young of other species to raise as their own quite often.....We all have a common spirit. We are all manifested in that common spiritual image.....

Your life did not begin in the womb. It was in the sperm and the egg. The egos associated with each life form come and then go with the form, but the Life is a flow through each of us, who are merely more of us coming forth from within us. Follow the flow back to the source. The most important other to one alone is a loving other. Hence It creates us male and female and then has us participate in the creation by bringing more loving others forth from within us.

If you think all of this is an accident due to entropy you are blind. Think of all the variables that have to come together so life can build its forms on this planet: Elliptic  orbits, multiple planets, distance from the Sun, moon distance and orbit, iron core and molten center, distance from the center of the galaxy and when the solar system formed in the galaxy's history, and just the fact that the universe exists.

It is time to get science back to explaining that wonder, not Creatorless dead matter.

[captcass (OP)]

Please explain why that question is ludicrous.

The fact that you keep asking it makes it more ludicrous. Shall I give you the Google or Bing answer?

[captcass (OP)]

You certainly aren't discussing science.

You are the one fixated on this anti-Creator stuff. I am just answering your questions, which I am doing for the sake of people following the thread. You are now merely the "Devil's Advocate", a foe easily defeated.

[captcass (OP)]

I would note that no one has offered anything in my paper they can disprove.

I am happy to discuss the spiritual, as prompted by the you-know-whos, but no one attacking me has yet disproved a single aspect of the paper.... 

[Kryptid]

The fact that you keep asking it makes it more ludicrous. Shall I give you the Google or Bing answer?

That is the first and only time I've asked that question...

I would note that no one has offered anything in my paper they can disprove.

I'd take a look at it, but for whatever reason, the link on your website fails to load for me.

I suppose it would be helpful if you did an example calculation for us using your equations. That will help us evaluate if they are correct or not.

[captcass (OP)]

That is the first and only time I've asked that question...

Sorry, I confused you with someone else.

I go thru the derivations in the paper, and the math is pretty straightforward once you have the formula, but if you would like an example of a solution I can do that. Would you like planet, moon, comet or Sun? I probably won't get to it today as it is a busy day for me at work. Here is the full link for the paper: https://www.thetruecosmology.com/General%20Relativity%20and%20Effects%20in%20Time%20as%20Causation.pdf

I found this solution for Hale-Bopp at perihelion in my notes. Sorry for all the decimal places, but it is just cut and pasted off the calculator:
0.9999999999469163539569926569678925294128940353453952393962282509 factor Hale-Bopp a (Semi-Major)
0.9999999891974198937995017974374265112476143052669903346261902849 factor Hale-Bopp perihelion

sqrt(1-(2((6.67430*10^-11)*(1.989*10^30))/(299792458^2*(27825203950200 )) = 0.9999999891974198937995017974374265112476143052669903346261902849

(299792458^2-(299792458^2*0.9999999891974198937995017974374265112476143052669903346261902849) =
970887481.4167019245494406244458128753303519136241695398770749979889054364

2*970887481.4167019245494406244458128753303519136241695398770749979889054364 = 1941774962.8334038490988812488916257506607038272483390797541499959778108728

sqrt(1941774962.8334038490988812488916257506607038272483390797541499959778108728-(299792458^2-(299792458^2*0.9999999999469163539569926569678925294128940353453952393962282509)
= 44011.4080967044878119203775993936127265851778970576214127769546606573 m/s

[jeffreyH]

Oh, the "I won't get to it today" dodge. Then post a link to your 'paper'. Why are trolls so predictable? Stop boring us.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-spirituality/

[Kryptid]

Would you like planet, moon, comet or Sun?

Just go with the Sun for now.

[captcass (OP)]

Oh, the "I won't get to it today" dodge. Then post a link to your 'paper'. Why are trolls so predictable? Stop boring us.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-spirituality/

See above. Nice attitude....

[jeffreyH]

Oh, the "I won't get to it today" dodge. Then post a link to your 'paper'. Why are trolls so predictable? Stop boring us.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-spirituality/

See above. Nice attitude....

You are promoting mystic woo and not science. I have my serious face ready. Let's see the maths. Or are you going to make arguing with me the reason why you don't produce it?

[jeffreyH]

That was a fast edit of your post. Congratulations. Now what does it mean?

[captcass (OP)]

Let's see the maths.

Look above for Hale-Bopp in my reply to Kryptid and then go and get an attitude adjustment....

If you know the maths you could just try the formulas yourself. Or can't you do that? Here are the dilaltion factors for the planets. All you have to do is plug them in, if you can handle that.:
Sun   Surface      0.9999982040213757   
Mercury         0.9999999745010402   
Venus         0.9999999863540133   
Earth         0.9999999901293970   
Mars         0.9999999935219782   
Jupiter              0.9999999981028554   
Saturn              0.9999999989649822   
Uranus         0.9999999994856144   
Neptune         0.9999999996717441   
 

[captcass (OP)]

Now what does it mean?

Just look at the equation and figure it out. Don't you recognize c? Geez. There are only a few factors to identify. I am getting ready for work and don't have time for this hand-holding now.

[jeffreyH]

Here are the dilaltion factors for the planets.

With respect to what? God?

[jeffreyH]

Just look at the equation and figure it out. Don't you recognize c? Geez. There are only a few factors to identify. I am getting ready for work and don't have time for this hand-holding now.

You seem to have no concept of significant figures or scientific notation.

[jeffreyH]

I have hardly ever seen anyone go to these lengths to embarrass themselves. Why not just give it up? No one here wants to tear you to pieces. Except you.

[Halc]

Here are the dilaltion factors for the planets.

With respect to what? God?

Can't be with respect to God since he hasn't factored in any of masses outside the solar system. There's way too many 9's for numbers relative to zero potential.

Sun   Surface      0.9999982040213757   
Mercury         0.9999999745010402   
Venus         0.9999999863540133   
Earth         0.9999999901293970   
Mars         0.9999999935219782   
Jupiter              0.9999999981028554   
Saturn              0.9999999989649822   
Uranus         0.9999999994856144   
Neptune         0.9999999996717441 

It can't be relative to not-solar system (dilation compared to clocks in same places, but with the entire contents of the solar system absent) since he has Jupiter less dilated than the inner planets, whereas in reality a clock on Jupiter will be more dilated than one on any of the other planets except Mercury, and one on Uranus the least dilated.
It can't be relative to not-self (dilation compared a clock in same place, but with just the listed object absent) since Mercury has the highest dilation of the planets despite being the least massive planet. The numbers contradict reality. OP falsified. That was easy.

[captcass (OP)]

You seem to have no concept of significant figures or scientific notation.

As i noted, it was just a copy and paste from the calculator.

With respect to what? God?

Fool.

Let's see, 75% of the astrophysicists in the English-speaking universities have found no fault with the math, but you think it is wrong.....Hmmmm.

I'm off to work. Play nice, guys.

[captcass (OP)]

whereas in reality a clock on Jupiter will be more dilated than one on any of the other planets except Mercury,

One last before I go. You are totally backwards. The dilation increases as you go deeper into the gravity well. How about brushing up on the basics before making foolish statements.