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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #160 on: 05/09/2023 22:11:43 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 05/09/2023 21:06:02
Anything that mimics gravity is an analogy to how I think gravity works.
So what?
The picture I posted in post 135 is a top view of the experiment. Can you not see that? It is the correct view of the experiment, the side view which shows bending or curvature is null as well as the bottom view. The top view is the only accurate view because the plane of the sheet is parallel to the plane of earth's gravity. Without gravity below the sheet the experiment doesn't show anything.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #161 on: 05/09/2023 22:54:52 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 05/09/2023 22:11:43
Without gravity below the sheet the experiment doesn't show anything.
So, remind me not to try doing that experiment if I'm in free fall.
But the rest of the time it works just fine.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #162 on: 06/09/2023 22:07:19 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 03/09/2023 18:01:37
So you honestly believe the core is slowly producing heat through radioactive decay and then slowly releasing it through the crust.

Yes.

Wouldn't that make the core and the whole Earth radioactive? How would people survive the radioactivity when visiting below the surface. Also if the heat is conducting or radiating then shouldn't it be shooting out of the holes that we dig down deep in the surface? with no 'blanket' above? Shouldn't the heat be rising up like a chimney?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #163 on: 07/09/2023 00:42:35 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 06/09/2023 22:07:19
Wouldn't that make the core and the whole Earth radioactive?

The whole Earth is, indeed, radioactive. It's generally at levels that are low enough for us to survive without problems.

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 06/09/2023 22:07:19
Also if the heat is conducting or radiating then shouldn't it be shooting out of the holes that we dig down deep in the surface?

If you dig deep enough, that's exactly what happens. The excess heat is one of the limiting factors to how deep we can drill with current technology.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #164 on: 07/09/2023 07:03:59 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 07/09/2023 00:42:35
If you dig deep enough, that's exactly what happens. The excess heat is one of the limiting factors to how deep we can drill with current technology.
Would you say the heat in the core is backed up? or bottled up by the blanket? and how can it be that heat is being made through radioactive decay, is building up up in the core, obviously faster then its conducting to the surface, without increasing exponentially? So in other words if the heat is backing up below the surface, it  would seem that the planet would either lose the heat quicker or it would get hotter and hotter in the core?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #165 on: 07/09/2023 08:47:17 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 06/09/2023 22:07:19
Wouldn't that make the core and the whole Earth radioactive?
It is.
We call it background radiation.
Do you not realise that, before you tell science that it is wrong, you should learn  things like this?

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 06/09/2023 22:07:19
Also if the heat is conducting or radiating then shouldn't it be shooting out of the holes that we dig down deep in the surface?
Yes.
I already said this was what happened.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/09/2023 09:53:10
This sets up a thermal gradient- the surface is cool, but it gets hotter as you go down.
I believe some of the most powerful refrigeration systems in the world provide the air conditioning for gold mines.


Is there some reason why you do not read and remember what we say here?
It seems to be some sort of medical condition.
Have you sought treatment for it?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #166 on: 07/09/2023 08:49:51 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 07/09/2023 07:03:59
obviously faster then its conducting to the surface,
No, It's being generated at exactly the same rate that it is conducted away.
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 07/09/2023 07:03:59
Would you say the heat in the core is backed up? or bottled up by the blanket?
No.
It isn't backed up.

You need to  learn about  thermal conductivity. (and a lot of other things).
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #167 on: 07/09/2023 19:51:33 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 07/09/2023 08:49:51
It isn't backed up.
​You said the crust is like a blanket for the heat, last time i checked blankets are not only capable of but there sole purpose is to trap heat below?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #168 on: 07/09/2023 20:37:05 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 07/09/2023 19:51:33
Quote from: Bored chemist on 07/09/2023 08:49:51
It isn't backed up.
​You said the crust is like a blanket for the heat, last time i checked blankets are not only capable of but there sole purpose is to trap heat below?
If that was true you would never need two,

Have you considered studying physics at all?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #169 on: 07/09/2023 22:44:49 »
Seems to me if the heat is not as I describe but heat from radioactive decay, the core would be putting pressure outwards onto the crust.So the weight bearing down on the core would be counter to the interrnal heat pressure and you wouldn't have a core pressure to decay with. Frankly if all that heat is radiation the earth should explode like a bomb.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #170 on: 07/09/2023 23:03:28 »
Oh and this little tidbit, the decay of isotopes isn't a perfect system, yet the heat is perfectly distributed at all times through the earth. How do you explain the fact that the radioactive decay causes perfect even distribution of the heat?
« Last Edit: 07/09/2023 23:15:40 by trevorjohnson32 »
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #171 on: 07/09/2023 23:12:36 »
I'm still yet to find anyone who has an arguement to the question 'name something that doesn't have temperature. It is the single quality that everything that exists has.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #172 on: 07/09/2023 23:15:48 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 07/09/2023 22:44:49
Frankly if all that heat is radiation the earth should explode like a bomb.

Can you show the math to support this assertion?

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 07/09/2023 23:03:28
the heat is perfectly distributed through the earth.

Do you have a citation for that?

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 07/09/2023 23:12:36
I'm still yet to find anyone who has an arguement to the question 'name something that doesn't have temperature. It is the single quality that everything that exists has.

Empty space doesn't have a temperature. There are no particles in it to move.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #173 on: 08/09/2023 01:57:40 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 07/09/2023 23:15:48
the heat is perfectly distributed through the earth.

Do you have a citation for that?

Lets just say for the most part it is evenly distributed in the different layers of earth. What is your answer to my question?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #174 on: 08/09/2023 02:11:07 »
This from physics stack exchange: "The densest elements (metals) in the Earth fall to the center, due to the gravitational force. The densest elements are radioactive, Earths core is radioactive, Uranium-238 is one radioactive species at the center of the earth."
So the heavier elements fall through the earth? at what rate? it would have to be a perfectly continuous rate or else the core temperature would vary. So what controls the rate at which these heavy elements sink? Why don't they all sink at once?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #175 on: 08/09/2023 06:00:36 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 08/09/2023 01:57:40
Lets just say for the most part it is evenly distributed in the different layers of earth. What is your answer to my question?

I'm not at all convinced that is the case. There very probably are areas with more heat and with less heat (at least in the mantle, because it is a plastic solid). Once you get to the outer core, you are dealing with a liquid. Mixing would distribute the radioisotopes pretty evenly.

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 08/09/2023 02:11:07
So the heavier elements fall through the earth? at what rate?

It sounds like they are referring to the formation of the Earth, way back when it was entirely molten. So this is a process that has, for the most part, stopped happening on any significant scale today.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #176 on: 10/09/2023 21:22:06 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 07/09/2023 23:12:36
I'm still yet to find anyone who has an arguement to the question 'name something that doesn't have temperature. It is the single quality that everything that exists has.

Good Point!
I was trying to Imagine a Single Atom drifting in the deep void of Space.

What ' Temp ' would it have...
Any Thoughts?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #177 on: 10/09/2023 23:24:59 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 10/09/2023 21:22:06
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 07/09/2023 23:12:36
I'm still yet to find anyone who has an arguement to the question 'name something that doesn't have temperature. It is the single quality that everything that exists has.

Good Point!
I was trying to Imagine a Single Atom drifting in the deep void of Space.

What ' Temp ' would it have...
Any Thoughts?

Temperature is a bulk property of systems of particles. A single atom doesn't have a temperature.
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #178 on: 11/09/2023 05:21:38 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 10/09/2023 23:24:59
Temperature is a bulk property of systems of particles. A single atom doesn't have a temperature.

The core of a nuclei is probably hot from density pressure. Could it be that radioactive decay is scattering its heat in the core of the nucleus as well?
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Re: the forgotten aether,2023
« Reply #179 on: 11/09/2023 05:30:51 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 11/09/2023 05:21:38
The core of a nuclei is probably hot from density pressure.

It's not. It's in its ground state (usually).
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