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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7080 on: 06/11/2019 06:56:45 »
of course people will lose livelihoods if we started to do something. But that happens all the time, although maybe not on this scale. Why equality need to be implemented. But equality is inside your mind firstly. Without you understanding why it won't work.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7081 on: 06/11/2019 06:59:15 »
Furthermore, it's not science that have put us into this position.
It's peoples use of it.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7082 on: 06/11/2019 18:32:16 »
It's been some time since I recommended a book , hasn't it?

Well, I do like this one.  The Tea Master and the Detective by Aliette de Bodard
She has a way of making me wonder.

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7083 on: 06/11/2019 19:20:26 »
Actually it's slightly too short, for my taste :) But then again, it's perfectly enough in itself. Reading it reminded me of another small gem. The Ring of Allaire by Susan Dexter. Sometimes it's just in the words, weaving a certain kind of magic. But then there are some books that gives you something more than words. I think both of those have it in them.
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« Reply #7084 on: 06/11/2019 20:34:36 »
Why do I think Earth might be resilient? Well, it's about tippings and of how close we might be to a major one. It's also about hope for a future, and the way we will act. If we go out from a major tipping already being here, making it more or less impossible to change the current situation, no matter what we do. Then we already have given up, haven't we?

whatever form a major tipping will take it won't be seen as it starts. My own opinion is that we will learn about it as it evolves. So far I don't know of anything pointing irrecoverably to that. You might call it a case of the glass being half full or half empty, in this case I prefer it being half full.

Which shouldn't be read as if there are no danger signs at the horizon.  https://www.pnas.org/content/115/33/8252
" Trajectories of the Earth System in the Anthropocene "
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« Reply #7085 on: 07/11/2019 11:25:21 »
Maybe we should introduce a 'let your car rest' day? We have days for the most stupid things here in Sweden, and maybe you too?

And a 'industry free day'  a month?
Just to see how we will solve it. Every little thing helps.

Because we need to act now
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« Reply #7086 on: 08/11/2019 08:44:35 »
Well yes, that was more of a joke.
This one isn't https://www.ee.co.za/article/power-ships-real-solution-south-africas-short-term-energy-needs.html

Seems like a 'new solution' not only for SA. " Although Africa is in a unique position to leapfrog dependence on fossil fuels and utilise abundant renewable sources such as wind and solar, the continent is embarking on a massive expansion of fossil fuel electricity. More than 200 new power stations are planned, the majority of which will burn coal. Power ships – vast floating power stations, some burning highly polluting bunker oil – are already moored in Ghana, Sierra Leone and Mozambique. "

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/07/pollutionwatch-africa-increases-reliance-fossil-fuels
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« Reply #7087 on: 08/11/2019 08:50:54 »
Combine it with things like this. New technology in India.  " The problems caused by crop stubble have worsened in recent years, because the combine machines that are now used to harvest the rice leave several inches of stubble in the ground. Even just a few years ago, this excess crop would be used by farmers for cooking, as hay to keep their animals warm or even as extra insulation for homes, but that is increasingly outdated.... “Burning is very common, everyone around here does it and just ignores the laws,” said Satish, who claimed only to be looking after the blackened land, though neighbouring farmers later confirmed he was the owner. “What choice do we have? For most of us this method is the only option to clear our fields. I can not afford to buy a machine and even to rent it is 10,000 rupees (£110), maybe more. To burn it is just 1,000 rupees and the next day it is done.” "

Moving away from traditional practices, sooner or later replaced by mono crops as in the USA.



 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/08/indian-farmers-have-no-choice-but-to-burn-stubble-and-break-the-law
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« Reply #7088 on: 08/11/2019 08:55:12 »
I don't expect that behavior to fit inside diversity and sustainability, especially if you think of the way seedless seeds are pushed upon the small farmers there.
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« Reply #7089 on: 08/11/2019 08:58:57 »
There is a really big divide between poor country's and rich. And when rich countries try to lessen their impact on our world the 'market' moves to county's with less regulations and a greater need for cheap solutions. As always 'the market knows best' right? And as always the 'market' is populated by the same rich countries that condemns those practices at home.
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« Reply #7090 on: 08/11/2019 09:09:39 »
Turkey and Russia, both thinking that a solution to cheap power are those ships moored where needed. The difference being how the power is generated. Oil for Turkey, nuclear for Russia.
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« Reply #7091 on: 08/11/2019 09:28:26 »
with some of those developing countries going the same way as China. Wanting to become geopolitical heavyweights. One shortcut to it being the one taken by Israel, UK, France, China, India and Pakistan, Russia and USA and of course North Korea. Herd animals with a killer instinct.
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« Reply #7092 on: 08/11/2019 09:36:03 »
And the way the manufacturing always looks for the cheapest solutions and working-forces our industries keeps spreading out, into countries that by themselves would have needed decades to create those industries by themselves. And as usual it's not adapted to those countries, it's adapted to where the market for those products exist. But when we stop buying them those countries still will. Because theirs a 'learning curve' and a induced way of becoming 'modern'.

We export it.
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« Reply #7093 on: 08/11/2019 09:38:35 »
So they behave as we did some decades ago. Because that's what needed for that leapfrog into a future and a modern society. One where you you become a cog in a machinery, having the 'good life'.
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« Reply #7094 on: 08/11/2019 09:40:16 »
Now, you don't have to agree :) Or maybe you do, and see no wrong with it? Or maybe you look at it as I do.
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« Reply #7095 on: 08/11/2019 09:41:19 »
We could slow down. It would help.
You can't really buy yourself happy.
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« Reply #7096 on: 08/11/2019 09:51:17 »
Well, you can. But it's a short time high.

Like a drug addict you will find yourself buying ever more to keep that smile on your face.
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« Reply #7097 on: 08/11/2019 09:58:08 »
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"Your lifetime is still too short to notice it. Although that will change."
Not mine I find the winters in Southern UK much less cold than when I was  a boy
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« Reply #7098 on: 08/11/2019 10:28:16 »
Thanks for that one :)

Yeah, and here in Sweden we've had both wild fires, and roads raining away.
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« Reply #7099 on: 08/11/2019 10:43:57 »
You can look at those comments as me trying to be 'politically correct' Syhprum. I don't want to scare people away as it then leaps the risk of being called 'doomsday scenarios' :) And then nobody will read except those wanting to get their own ideas confirmed. And I'm afraid they won't be satisfied either :)
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