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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7460 on: 24/11/2019 13:34:15 »
And if you want to be like them, then that is what you too have to do.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7461 on: 24/11/2019 13:35:25 »
or you can change?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7462 on: 25/11/2019 01:12:27 »
We're very good at hiding it though, don't know how many books there are about economics and different models fighting for recognition. And the same seems to go for politics. But it's all inside the game, well, as far as I know then.

Earth just changed the rules for our game, and she did it in response to us.
And the one defining both economics and politics are you, what you do and don't do is what defines it.

Nowhere to hide. Nowhere to run.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #7463 on: 25/11/2019 11:57:32 »
I know, both spelling and syntax sux at times. That's just the way it is, and will continue to be, I'm afraid. If you wonder how climate science 'knows' about what part of CO2 comes from us I expect this to be a valuable source for you. http://ane4bf-datap1.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/wmocms/s3fs-public/ckeditor/files/GHG-Bulletin-15_en.pdf?mQP5SDxBr_pHsQNJsAPrF8E5XnqkfHo2

It's from https://public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/greenhouse-gas-concentrations-atmosphere-reach-yet-another-high
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« Reply #7464 on: 25/11/2019 12:01:31 »
The worst part of it isn't that the concentrations are raising. The worst part is that we put so much effort in proving that it is us. It's like this engine I discuss. It's so obvious if you use your mind. But you don't seem to want too, which makes you easy prey for those lying.
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« Reply #7465 on: 25/11/2019 12:08:03 »
It's a very dangerous move to let ones preconceptions define how the world should be. You have to be very careful with that.
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« Reply #7466 on: 25/11/2019 12:11:28 »
Of course we all do it anyway, you and me both . Part of being human I suppose. But we've had statistics coming, we know when that raise started, we know what set it off fossils and population growth combining. It's hardly rocket science.
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« Reply #7467 on: 25/11/2019 12:13:20 »
What the system would prefer is for this to go away and stop bothering it. And a lot of the more optimistic scenarios I've seen when it comes to population growth and now the world bank does just that.
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« Reply #7468 on: 25/11/2019 12:13:53 »
They invite you to lean back and enjoy the ride.
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« Reply #7469 on: 25/11/2019 12:14:49 »
Not going to work.
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« Reply #7470 on: 25/11/2019 12:16:23 »
I'm very serious about that one, extrapolating all trends we have, to do so is to give up.
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« Reply #7471 on: 25/11/2019 12:32:25 »
We need a revolution to handle this. But revolutions mixing in arms and killings seldom change anything. The same type of 'cream' floating to the top once it finish. It's all inside this game we play. Which comes from us all and our core beliefs, our greed and our profits..

You need to change and you need to do it now. You need to put a lot of pressure on our politicians and bureaucracy. Strikes will work, shaming might work. Don't worry about your wallet, as far as I see it's too late to start worrying about that. It's already done with, you just don't know it yet.
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« Reply #7472 on: 25/11/2019 12:58:23 »
When it comes toi the 'economics' of it you can see that two ways. From inside the game or outside it.
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« Reply #7473 on: 25/11/2019 13:01:21 »
Looking at it from the inside will lead to more books about economics, and theories of how it works. Looked at from a outside it's simple.  We survive, because the whole idea of 'money' is just a belief system. A recession isn't you refusing to work, it's people and investments losing trust.
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« Reply #7474 on: 25/11/2019 13:11:51 »
Yeah, I guess that's what I'm trying to see. Ways to change this without using the game. Using the game will just take you back to the game, new players but the same mind sets. The emperors new clothes once over again.

We need to evolve and we need to understand that life isn't about money.
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« Reply #7475 on: 25/11/2019 13:12:36 »
And that's what earth tells you, if you listen.
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« Reply #7476 on: 25/11/2019 14:02:17 »
You could also express it as if the world is building on trust. Because that is one side of the game, trust in each other. Then again, it's also trust in each others greed, and whatever negative things more about it one can imagine. That's also where I place game theory.

That part we will need to translate into something better.
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« Reply #7477 on: 25/11/2019 14:05:45 »
Everything leads to education, doesn't it?
Or a lack of it.
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« Reply #7478 on: 25/11/2019 14:07:09 »
And using ones mind.
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« Reply #7479 on: 25/11/2019 14:41:14 »
Australia is a 'canary' in more than one way. It will be clash between business as always and those of you questioning it. This article puts a light on it. And no, the way I read it it isn't about any specific person, I don't care about the person involved, to me it's about conflicts of interest and how far the industry is prepared to go to keep its interests profitable. Of course it's a unholy alliance, but it is one all countries share. It's inherent to the game you might say. So we will see.

What goes around comes around.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/25/scott-morrison-and-the-big-lie-about-climate-change-does-he-think-were-that-stupid
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