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Laurac, my first answer was numbers on paper. But reflecting a moment, my ED went away...POIS improved incredibly, but I attributed it ALL to testosterone + stimulants...which all happened around the same time! Hmmmm...now look what you did to me, laurac!!! []
well demo, i went back to some test results of from 3-4 years ago when i was suffering quite badly from cfs/adrenal fatigue and found my free testosterone:blood 16.5 pg/mlsaliva 19 pg/ml
Some Food For Thought:POIS is not necessarily a malady *caused* by orgasm. POIS is an illness that we have all the time, something unrelated to orgasm--such as depression, chronic fatigue, IBS, arthritis, or some other auto-immune disorder. It's just that abstaining from orgasm is a powerful coping mechanism for our other illness because doing so gradually builds our hormone and neurotransmitter-related resiliency. And orgasm--a temporary blow to our neurochemical buffer and strength--allows whatever illness we have to return to prominence. This explains why we all have such varied symptoms and treatments that work for us; we all have different illnesses, but what we all have in common is that orgasm worsens it. Perhaps we are a bit too focused on the orgasm mechanism itself, ignoring what the symptoms point to--something possibly right underneath our noses.
Quote from: RhythmSpring on 24/05/2010 18:39:25Some Food For Thought:POIS is not necessarily a malady *caused* by orgasm. POIS is an illness that we have all the time, something unrelated to orgasm--such as depression, chronic fatigue, IBS, arthritis, or some other auto-immune disorder. It's just that abstaining from orgasm is a powerful coping mechanism for our other illness because doing so gradually builds our hormone and neurotransmitter-related resiliency. And orgasm--a temporary blow to our neurochemical buffer and strength--allows whatever illness we have to return to prominence. This explains why we all have such varied symptoms and treatments that work for us; we all have different illnesses, but what we all have in common is that orgasm worsens it. Perhaps we are a bit too focused on the orgasm mechanism itself, ignoring what the symptoms point to--something possibly right underneath our noses. This is something I have also considered many times - and as commented earlier, has been summed up in a way that I have thus far been unable to do in such a clear and concise manner.Trying to be brief does anybody else suffer thus:After orgasm - the accepted symptoms of POISCoffee - makes me agitated, bad headache - general nervousness followed by about 2 hours of awful 'coming down' - I am able to drink decaff so presume it is being over stimulated by caffeine.Alcohol - well the affects are widely known - but I now avoid as the following day is grim indeed - I know we all get hangovers - but it seems excessive to me for the small amount consumed. Night of restless sleep - next day similar to POIS but mainly cognitive issues that can lead to a 'hangover' type affect the following day.General nervousness/panic in situations where I least expect it - the severe hit from this leads to rapid feelings of exhaustion - but nothing like the magnitude of POIS.This suggests to me that I live life with heightened sensitivity to any stimulus that simply blows apart my ability to cope/function in a normal manner, like a total system overload. I am sure there must be anxiety sufferers who do not have POIS and enjoy a healthy sex life, so I am not going to agree with my GP that I need to relax and all will be well.Maybe I am, for some reason overly sensitive to all these stimuli - I am just wondering if I am alone with this, without wanting to change the discussion too much from POIS to general malaise!!
A note of optimism for those determined to beat this.Progesterone has been a 90% cure for me, so last week I ran out coincidentally. I received a one month trial from a doctor that will not help me anymore (unfortunately). Determined and stubborn to get more progesterone I schedule an appt with another doctor yesterday - he would not prescribe it to me. I scheduled another appt with another Dr. in the afternoon - he would not prescribe either. I then scheduled a third appt with another Dr. and they prescribed it!Good thing I didn't give up, even though the first and second doctor inferred that I should.
Possibly, which is the problem because it's not a standard practice in 'good medicine'.Seeing a new doctor for an unknown disease (POIS) and asking for an atypical remedy (progesterone for men) could create shell shock and rejection.
I'd be interested in knowing what our test results would be for each of these. Maybe the problem isn't testosterone or progesterone, but something ealier in the cascade. And maybe thats why T and P are only partial cures.
It [POIS]'s real alright, and it's a bummer....But since I've been here, my situation has improved a lot. But you will need to dig in, share, identify your POIS ( we're all a little bit different, but sort of the same in groups) and identify your approach to getting better.