The Naked Scientists
  • Login
  • Register
  • Podcasts
      • The Naked Scientists
      • eLife
      • Naked Genetics
      • Naked Astronomy
      • In short
      • Naked Neuroscience
      • Ask! The Naked Scientists
      • Question of the Week
      • Archive
      • Video
      • SUBSCRIBE to our Podcasts
  • Articles
      • Science News
      • Features
      • Interviews
      • Answers to Science Questions
  • Get Naked
      • Donate
      • Do an Experiment
      • Science Forum
      • Ask a Question
  • About
      • Meet the team
      • Our Sponsors
      • Site Map
      • Contact us

User menu

  • Login
  • Register
  • Home
  • Help
  • Search
  • Tags
  • Recent Topics
  • Login
  • Register
  1. Naked Science Forum
  2. General Science
  3. Question of the Week
  4. QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« previous next »
  • Print
Pages: [1]   Go Down

QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?

  • 13 Replies
  • 6189 Views
  • 4 Tags

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline katieHaylor (OP)

  • Naked Scientist Producer
  • Global Moderator
  • Sr. Member
  • ********
  • 475
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Naked Science Forum Newbie
    • The Naked Scientists
QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« on: 23/08/2017 14:57:41 »
Norm asks:

If water is a solid below 0 degrees celsius, and a gas above 100 degrees celsius, why then does my washing dry when the air temperature is below 100 degrees?


What do you think?
« Last Edit: 23/08/2017 17:36:38 by chris »
Logged
 



Offline mrsmith2211

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • 172
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 11 times
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #1 on: 23/08/2017 19:35:27 »
Perhaps water molecules are being absorbed by air, being drawn from an area of higher concentration to an area with lower concentration. Kind of like a sponge working a molecular level.
« Last Edit: 23/08/2017 19:47:34 by mrsmith2211 »
Logged
 

Offline Kryptid

  • Global Moderator
  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ********
  • 8082
  • Activity:
    0.5%
  • Thanked: 514 times
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #2 on: 23/08/2017 21:35:31 »
It's because water has a finite vapor pressure. Even below the boiling point, water slowly evaporates until it saturates the atmosphere. At that point, it reaches an equilibrium where evaporation and condensation happen at roughly equal rates.
Logged
 

Offline evan_au

  • Global Moderator
  • Naked Science Forum GOD!
  • ********
  • 11036
  • Activity:
    9.5%
  • Thanked: 1486 times
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #3 on: 23/08/2017 22:54:53 »
Even on Mars and comets far from the Sun, where the temperature is below 0°C, water has some vapor pressure, and some water molecules will jump out of the solid state, and become a vapor. But the rate is very low.

If your washing is solid ice outside, probably best to put it in a dryer.
Logged
 

Offline mrsmith2211

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • 172
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 11 times
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #4 on: 25/08/2017 17:17:36 »
I heard the Eskimos beat the ice out of their clothes and make them dry.
Logged
 



Offline chris

  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ******
  • 8061
  • Activity:
    1%
  • Thanked: 306 times
  • The Naked Scientist
    • The Naked Scientists
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #5 on: 26/08/2017 00:03:58 »
One way to think about this is to consider the energy in the particles of water. Water molecules resemble miniature boomerangs with oxygen atoms at the apex and hydrogen atoms for the arms. The electron-loving oxygen is slightly more negative than the hydrogens, deforming the charge distribution across the molecule.

This facilitates a process called "hydrogen bonding" whereby the positive hydrogens are attracted to the negative oxygen of another water molecule. These interactions hold water together as a liquid and account for many of its unusual properties.

When we give energy to water, the particles - individual water molecules - are constantly "sharing out" and exchanging the energy between them.

You can think of it as a bit like a bunch of children sharing out a bag of sweets, although they don't share out the sweets equally between themselves; instead the sweets are randomly distributed around the group, and the children constantly trade the sweets among themselves too, at random.

Now, if we return to the water molecules, which are like the children with their sweets, this process means that, by chance, some water molecules will occasionally end up with a very large amount of energy, while others will have much less. And What we call the "temperature" of something is actually a measure of the average energy of the particles.

The effect of holding this energy is to make the particles vibrate or run around - a bit like a child who's eaten too many sweets! And if we give a water particle enough energy, it can vibrate sufficiently hard to overcome the attraction of the hydrogen bond holding it to an adjacent water molecule.

This means that, sometimes, a water molecule with a large amount of energy will have enough energy to break the bonds holding it to the next door molecules and escape as water vapour.

So even when you wet towel is hanging on the washing line, it is still losing water because, by chance, the odd water molecules will shake sufficiently hard to detach themselves from the surrounding water molecules, produce some water vapour and this will drift away into the air and not come back.

Hey presto, your washing dries, but it need not be 100°C for it to happen...
« Last Edit: 26/08/2017 09:28:34 by chris »
Logged
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception - Groucho Marx - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/
 

Offline mrsmith2211

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • 172
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 11 times
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #6 on: 27/08/2017 04:28:48 »
The reason I like the sponge analogy rather than random molecules jumping ship is clothes dry faster in a breeze, ie more surface area for the sponge so to speak, Explains more with less effort.
Logged
 

Offline chris

  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ******
  • 8061
  • Activity:
    1%
  • Thanked: 306 times
  • The Naked Scientist
    • The Naked Scientists
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #7 on: 28/08/2017 09:52:20 »
Quote from: mrsmith2211 on 27/08/2017 04:28:48
The reason I like the sponge analogy rather than random molecules jumping ship is clothes dry faster in a breeze, ie more surface area for the sponge so to speak, Explains more with less effort.

What's the sponge analogy?
Logged
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception - Groucho Marx - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/
 

Offline jeffreyH

  • Global Moderator
  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ********
  • 6996
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 192 times
  • The graviton sucks
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #8 on: 28/08/2017 12:25:30 »
It was described in reply #1.
Logged
Even the most obstinately ignorant cannot avoid learning when in an environment that educates.
 
The following users thanked this post: chris, mrsmith2211



Offline chris

  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ******
  • 8061
  • Activity:
    1%
  • Thanked: 306 times
  • The Naked Scientist
    • The Naked Scientists
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #9 on: 31/08/2017 00:38:29 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 28/08/2017 12:25:30
It was described in reply #1.
Ah yes, now I see it!
Logged
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception - Groucho Marx - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/
 

Offline glot

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • 30
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Naked Science Forum Newbie
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #10 on: 31/08/2017 12:14:11 »
Julius Sumner Miller posed a similar question. Why did his mother's his washing still dry in sub zero temperatures?
Logged
 

Offline chris

  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ******
  • 8061
  • Activity:
    1%
  • Thanked: 306 times
  • The Naked Scientist
    • The Naked Scientists
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #11 on: 31/08/2017 22:23:10 »
Quote from: glot on 31/08/2017 12:14:11
Julius Sumner Miller posed a similar question. Why did his mother's his washing still dry in sub zero temperatures?

More importantly, what was his answer?
Logged
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception - Groucho Marx - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/
 

Offline katieHaylor (OP)

  • Naked Scientist Producer
  • Global Moderator
  • Sr. Member
  • ********
  • 475
  • Activity:
    0%
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Naked Science Forum Newbie
    • The Naked Scientists
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #12 on: 12/09/2017 16:59:31 »
This question has now been answered on our show, and you can listen to it here:  https://www.thenakedscientists.com/podcasts/naked-scientists-podcast/drug-discovery-future-pharma
Logged
 



Offline Petrochemicals

  • Naked Science Forum King!
  • ******
  • 3629
  • Activity:
    6.5%
  • Thanked: 182 times
  • forum overlord
Re: QotW - 17.08.20 - Why does washing dry even if the air's below 100 degrees C?
« Reply #13 on: 16/09/2017 16:33:28 »
Another take on it is why does water stay as water.To overcome its liquid form water requires energy to release its molecular links,  these are governed by pressure watert is under, temerature of the environment, and the volume the water has to fill. Because water is governed by the various gas laws, ie at a set temperature pressure and volume the water molecules seek to fill the space as is expected. Due to the water being in a confined space(humidity neighberhood) at a low temperature, and pressure some of the water canot be liberated into gas state, and remains as liquid. Thats why you get freeze drying.

Water has some strange properties, ice being one of them, various temperature freezing points due to pressure and temperature glassy water etc
Logged
For reasons of repetitive antagonism, this user is currently not responding to messages from;
BoredChemist
To ignore someone too, go to your profile settings>modifyprofie>ignore!
 



  • Print
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »
Tags: states of matter  / how does washing dry  / phase change  / evaporation 
 
There was an error while thanking
Thanking...
  • SMF 2.0.15 | SMF © 2017, Simple Machines
    Privacy Policy
    SMFAds for Free Forums
  • Naked Science Forum ©

Page created in 0.488 seconds with 62 queries.

  • Podcasts
  • Articles
  • Get Naked
  • About
  • Contact us
  • Advertise
  • Privacy Policy
  • Subscribe to newsletter
  • We love feedback

Follow us

cambridge_logo_footer.png

©The Naked Scientists® 2000–2017 | The Naked Scientists® and Naked Science® are registered trademarks created by Dr Chris Smith. Information presented on this website is the opinion of the individual contributors and does not reflect the general views of the administrators, editors, moderators, sponsors, Cambridge University or the public at large.