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Quote from: CliveG on 22/03/2020 10:12:24Timing, dear BC, timing.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hocThe joke's pushing it but ... it illustrates a point.For years, people have known out that exposure to german measles causes a red rash all over and that exposure to the Sun causes melanoma.You seem to be taking the view that the German officer should blame his walkie talkie for the rash.Do you not see why that's absurd?
Timing, dear BC, timing.
The question is "Was there a trigger?". If so, what could it be? When one looks at all the scientific studies about cell tower radiation there is a very high probability that the cell tower was the trigger.
You look for the tiniest of excuses to avoid the obvious.
Wiki, for example, is utterly clear on the issue."Melanomas are usually caused by DNA damage resulting from exposure to ultraviolet light from the sun."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanoma#Cause
The first is that the evidence of cell towers causing cancer is- to be polite- sketchy.
Cell company propaganda.
Do you still use your radium dial watch,
And do you still drive your leaded gasoline car because for eleven years the industry scientists were saying that the environmental lead being found had always been there?
Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 10:44:05Wiki, for example, is utterly clear on the issue."Melanomas are usually caused by DNA damage resulting from exposure to ultraviolet light from the sun."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanoma#CauseNote the qualification ("usually") in your statement We have been through this.
Quote from: CliveG on Today at 11:12:41Do you still use your radium dial watch,No, but I'd not worry if I did.It's an alpha emitter in an enclosed space. The external dose is pretty small.
Quote from: CliveG on 22/03/2020 11:06:46Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 10:44:05Wiki, for example, is utterly clear on the issue."Melanomas are usually caused by DNA damage resulting from exposure to ultraviolet light from the sun."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanoma#CauseNote the qualification ("usually") in your statement We have been through this.And as with any cancer, there's strong genetic element in the statistics, with red-haired "Celtic" ancestry very significant, whilst "Scandinavian" blondes (who tend to bronze rather than burn in the sun) are less prone to melanoma. Check your wife's family tree!
Quote from: Bored chemist on 22/03/2020 12:06:46Quote from: CliveG on Today at 11:12:41Do you still use your radium dial watch,No, but I'd not worry if I did.It's an alpha emitter in an enclosed space. The external dose is pretty small.Though enough to reliably print the numbers on a nurse's film badge (she was wearing her mother's watch over the badge) and scare the willies out of a chiropractic client who kept his grandad's old aviator watch in the same drawer as his TLD badge.
Though enough to reliably print the numbers on a nurse's film badge (she was wearing her mother's watch over the badge)
And as with any cancer, there's strong genetic element
BC, what evidence are you using to get less that 1%.
I said to my wife that the virus is targeting the older people,
I am sure they are helpful enough to perhaps survive.
I say there is sufficient evidence to include cell tower radiation.
That's hardly credible.Scattering and distance would mean they were blurred out of existence..
reliably print the numbers
A ring of black blobs
Quote from: Bored chemist on 22/03/2020 16:42:25That's hardly credible.Scattering and distance would mean they were blurred out of existence..I saw the film. A ring of black blobs around two faint grey circles. There's very little scatter of radium gamma radiation (100 - 600 keV) in glass, or even metals - it's been used for industrial radiography in the past. Sadly, I've lost the old pocket watch I used to use for assessing lead protection in x-ray rooms, and now have to lug a veterinary x-ray machine around. Had an interesting callout a year ago when a couple of ex-US Navy aviation sextants set off the alarms at Heathrow, and I remember some years back when we cleared out a cupboard at the National Physical Laboratory to discover the source of anomalous readings was a textbook that had been the personal property of Marie Curie, now in a lead box in the museum!
Quote from: CliveG on Yesterday at 14:53:36 BC, what evidence are you using to get less that 1%. Wrong tense, but here's the data I was usinghttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/For anyone under 50 (and that's most people) it's below 1%https://www.statista.com/statistics/281174/uk-population-by-age/Happy?"So if left unchecked a third of the USA will be infected. 5 million will die."So that's 5 million dead out of about 300 million people. About 1.7%.It's not as if our estimates are that different.
I keep saying your reading comprehension and your math needs some work.
The mortality rate is the number of deaths per infections, not total population.