[duffyd]

in Mark 8:31 and elsewhere he clearly stated that he was the Son of Man

What did he mean?

[duffyd]

He was not from this world. He said so

There is no evidence for that statement. Indeed in Mark 8:31 and elsewhere he clearly stated that he was the Son of Man. So you either accept the word of Jesus Christ, or the bullshit put about by those who have cobbled together a spurious religion around his name. I always prefer the former, which, like most of what he said,  is consistent with everyday observation and common sense.

He didn't claim to be God, but he did state that he was the son of man. ?

IOW, for one thing, you acknowledge that indeed He lived. He was an historical figure, not just a myth. That sets you apart.
Also, we have his quoted words, too, from what you say.
That is interesting. How do you know he identified himself in one fashion and not the other? One is feasible and the other is not?

You state, quite emphatically, "you either accept the word of Jesus Christ, or the bullshit put about by those who have cobbled together a spurious religion..." The obvious question is, how do you know which is which?

Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders." How did you determine that he did not say that? Is it based on what you consider reasonable?

Why did some people attribute to Jesus Christ a bunch of religious bull, in your opinion? What were they attempting to do?

You believe, "most of what he said,  is consistent with everyday observation and common sense." Part of that is accurate. Most of it isn't. Almost everything he said and did as it's been handed down to us through the New Testament firmly establishes him as the one and only begotten, divine, Son of God, The Messiah.

Are you aware of what happened to many of his initial followers? Many of those closest to him and who were responsible for the birth of his church were punished severely, even executed, for their insistence that he was in fact God in the flesh. If they had created that story, they merely had to renounce it to save themselves.

[CliveG]

And once more Clive is proven right in his predictions.

Face masks work - even cloth masks. Check the USA (and other countries) slowly coming to that realization.

Satan wins again - because of this ridiculous primary stance that masks do not work, and may even worsen infection.

Spoiler: show

   Of course it is not a psychic prediction - just MY science and not the popular propagandist science

[CliveG]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/01/health/sanjay-gupta-podcast-april-1/index.html
This is an unusual disease. I'm fascinated, Sanjay, by what I would call the pathogenesis. You know, you get so many people who do well and then some people who just, bingo, they're on a respirator, they're on ECMO (a life-support machine) and they're dead. I mean, the dichotomy between that, there's something there, Sanjay, that we're missing from a pathogenesis standpoint. And I don't think it's only if you're elderly or if you have underlying conditions. There's something else going on there that hopefully we'll ultimately figure out.

And I am saying that it is cell tower and cell phone radiation. Many travelers got it. People on planes and people on ships. Guess what is on those planes and ships. A high wifi radiation that is both intense and also highly pulsative. One has to have the pulsation. Steady microwaves do not have disruptive effective of a pulsing radiation.

Now how long do you think it will be before I am proved correct?

I do not know for certain that I am correct, but I am looking at my life and the path of lessons I have been subjected to. The last lesson was the health effects of cell radiation. Once more, denial. The same denial that has caused the USA and the UK to be well behind the curve. Satan plays on arrogance and ego - where people think they know it all.

Strangely my father told me as a teenager that I thought I knew it all. He said "You think you are so sharp. Wait until life knocks all the sharp edges off." And again he was correct. I am now a smooth pebble in the water of life.

BC - how long can you scoff at the fact that I am right most of the time?

[alancalverd]

He didn't claim to be God, but he did state that he was the son of man. ?

RTFM.

[CliveG]

We have a gentle rain.  A good omen. It is completely silent. No traffic noise. No sounds from the neighbours. We are putting fertilizer on the grass. My wife is digging up weeds. She had been sorting out her years of paperwork and throwing away what is not needed. I am in the garage doing yet another sort of all my tools and bits and pieces. The calm before the storm.

duffyd said it was a good time to by stock. My opinion is that we have a long way to the bottom. I also think that the bottom will long and very slow climbing. Not even a dead cat bounce. In fact, the world as we know it might change substantially in the next few years.

If we do not have a vaccine, then 60% of the USA will get the virus before herd immunity kicks in. If 4% of those die as a direct result of the virus that is 350 million * 60% * 4 % = 8.4 million. Then if more die due to complications such as suicides and lack of ordinary medical care the number will be higher. Will some US people starve?

The question is how long a period is this going to spread over. Social distancing can only slow it. By limiting the deaths to 200,000 every three months then that is about 10 years of slow death. Only a full draconian lock-down can stop it but even that takes about 3 months - and then it can come back and back again unless aggressive and extensive testing can result in virus free zones on an ongoing basis. The might of the US military is powerless against such an enemy.

The US is damned if it does and damned if it does not. Some companies will emerge but many will fall or be seriously devalued. My wife inherited a small amount of stock from her mother, but I have not gotten involved. Too much else going on. She says you only lose when you sell. Some went up high over the years. Some are in the process of dying due to corruption.

[CliveG]

He didn't claim to be God, but he did state that he was the son of man. ?

RTFM.

I am not arguing one way or the other, but what does the "manual" say? Verse and version? Any latitude in translation?

BTW, I have to look up many of these acronyms - sort of having to read the internet forum manual.

[Bored chemist]

And once more Clive is proven right in his predictions.

Face masks work - even cloth masks. Check the USA (and other countries) slowly coming to that realization.

Satan wins again - because of this ridiculous primary stance that masks do not work, and may even worsen infection.

Spoiler: show

   Of course it is not a psychic prediction - just MY science and not the popular propagandist science

No competent scientist (other than off the cuff) actually said masks don't work.
The only accurate answer to the question is  "it depends".


You might want to try not bearing false witness against them.

[Bored chemist]

BC - how long can you scoff at the fact that I am right most of the time?

In what sense?
I dare say that when you make your toast in the morning you don't accidentally try to do so by putting bread in the washing machine.
Similarly, I imagine that you can pretty reliable walk without falling over so, yes, I accept that like most people, you are right most of the time.
We are quite a clever species.

However, you are wrong about much of what you say here.
And, if you predict that the Sun will come up tomorrow, you will be right most of the time.

In the same way; I hereby predict that there will be another pandemic.
It will be a respiratory tract infection.
It will be viral
It will take governments by surprise and they won't be prepared.
It will emerge in a large country with relatively low levels of technology and infrastructure and where great social change is taking place. (So, China is a good bet but, bits of South America or africa are on the cards too)

And I can make those predictions because they are all more or less obvious.

So, when you claim to have made similar predictions
(but resolutely fail to post a diary- the one thing that you said would be sensible)
I don't think you are doing anything impressive, and nor should any other grown-up.

[duffyd]

And once more Clive is proven right in his predictions.

Face masks work - even cloth masks. Check the USA (and other countries) slowly coming to that realization.

Satan wins again - because of this ridiculous primary stance that masks do not work, and may even worsen infection.

Spoiler: show

   Of course it is not a psychic prediction - just MY science and not the popular propagandist science

No competent scientist (other than off the cuff) actually said masks don't work.
The only accurate answer to the question is  "it depends".


You might want to try not bearing false witness against them.

The Quinine based drugs used to treat Lupus look promising.

[duffyd]

Why hasn't science been able to prove the existence of God? I was A2A on a question about turning into an atheist at 13 years of age. It bothered me deeply and I came to question my own beliefs. I'm at a crossroad. Help me through logical answers.

The application of scientific principles confirms God is. The most pertinent question becomes, "what will you do now"?

[CliveG]

And once more Clive is proven right in his predictions.

Face masks work - even cloth masks. Check the USA (and other countries) slowly coming to that realization.

Satan wins again - because of this ridiculous primary stance that masks do not work, and may even worsen infection.

Spoiler: show

   Of course it is not a psychic prediction - just MY science and not the popular propagandist science

No competent scientist (other than off the cuff) actually said masks don't work.
The only accurate answer to the question is  "it depends".


You might want to try not bearing false witness against them.

I am dumbstruck by your post. Just how many people in the US are wearing any sort of mask protection - even DIY home-made cloth masks?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/surgeon-general-coronavirus-masks-risk-trnd/index.html
US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams not only wants people to stop buying facemasks to prevent the novel coronavirus, but warns that you actually might increase your risk of infection if facemasks are not worn properly.
"You can increase your risk of getting it by wearing a mask if you are not a health care provider," Adams said during an interview on Fox & Friends on Monday morning.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/who-should-wear-a-face-mask-30-march-who-briefing/
WHO officials do not recommend mask wearing for healthy members of the general population.

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/coronavirus-wearing-protective-gear-inappropriately-puts-you-at-greater-risk-health-department-20200331
The department reminded the public not to wear protective gear if a person does not feel sick or when taking care of people, especially those with respiratory problems.

[duffyd]

We have a gentle rain.  A good omen. It is completely silent. No traffic noise. No sounds from the neighbours. We are putting fertilizer on the grass. My wife is digging up weeds. She had been sorting out her years of paperwork and throwing away what is not needed. I am in the garage doing yet another sort of all my tools and bits and pieces. The calm before the storm.

duffyd said it was a good time to by stock. My opinion is that we have a long way to the bottom. I also think that the bottom will long and very slow climbing. Not even a dead cat bounce. In fact, the world as we know it might change substantially in the next few years.

The US is damned if it does and damned if it does not. Some companies will emerge but many will fall or be seriously devalued. My wife inherited a small amount of stock from her mother, but I have not gotten involved. Too much else going on. She says you only lose when you sell. Some went up high over the years. Some are in the process of dying due to corruption.

Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA)
It is always a good time to buy stock, particularly when the bottom falls out.

[CliveG]

In the same way; I hereby predict that there will be another pandemic.
It will be a respiratory tract infection.
It will be viral
It will take governments by surprise and they won't be prepared.
It will emerge in a large country with relatively low levels of technology and infrastructure and where great social change is taking place. (So, China is a good bet but, bits of South America or africa are on the cards too)

And I can make those predictions because they are all more or less obvious.

So did you? I seem to remember you scoffed at my predictions that a global pandemic was imminent.

And what about my prediction that it will be found that cell phone radiation will be found to be a factor? You are currently scoffing.

The last week I have had bad headaches in the afternoon causing me to have to lie down most of the time. They feel like a "tower headache" but the radiation readings are very low and I have not been out of the house for a week. Today I started getting a headache and I put on my aluminium head shield. I felt better quite quickly and have had a good day with no headache. I know that my tolerance for EMF radiation has decreased with the excessive exposure I have had. So even very low levels of 2 uW/sqm are too much for me.

What is one attribute of older people? Their immune systems are not as good. But they have also had a long time of exposure to radiation and their systems may be more sensitive to cell radiation.

Check out how biological enzymes work. They speed up cellular reactions as much as a million times. Adrenaline can give almost instant energy for muscle activation. Now imagine that there are pulsed electrical fields that are interfering with all the chemical reactions in our bodies, some of which rely on electrical differentials of a millionth of a volt. And you think it does nothing. Regrettably I have to wait about a year or more to prove once more I was right.

Give me some incredible odds and put up your money!

[Bored chemist]

And what about my prediction that it will be found that cell phone radiation will be found to be a factor? You are currently scoffing.

Yes, I still say that's laughable.
In due course, we will see.
People will continue to use phones- possibly even increase it- but (As is already happening in China) the virus will die down.

Are you still confident that the phones cause the pandemic?
Or do you think it will die down in spite of increased use of phones?

What's you prediction about that?

They feel like a "tower headache" but the radiation readings are very low a

Almost as if they "tower headaches" have nothing to do with em radiation.
A bit like what science says.

But they have also had a long time of exposure to radiation and their systems may be more sensitive to cell radiation.

It's the funniest thing, but old people were often badly affected by disease before anyone invented any sort of phone.
Isn't that remarkable?

Check out how biological enzymes work.

I'm a chemist; I know how enzymes work, in my time I probably wrote essays about it.

They speed up cellular reactions as much as a million times.

drenaline can give almost instant energy for muscle activation.

Wait a minute, you said you were talking about enzymes.
Adrenaline isn't an enzyme.

It's as if you don't know what you are talking about.

Now imagine that there are pulsed electrical fields that are interfering with all the chemical reactions

The experiments have shown in tedious detail that the em fields associated with phones don't do that.

Why not imagine that fairies are responsible instead?

Give me some incredible odds and put up your money!

Sadly forme the law bans bets on events where the outcome is already known. It's to stop people taking money for no good reason (I guess they think that's the government's job).
And we know that control measures throughout the world are bringing down the incidence of Covid infections.
And we know that the phone networks are struggling, because, in an attempt to deal with unprecedented demand, they are running flat out (and thus making much more radiation than normal).

So, if anything, it seems that phone use wipes out the virus.

But that's just evidence; I don't imagine it will convince you.

[duffyd]

BREAKING GOOD NEWS: the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen is proving to be a successful prophylactic to end this pandemic. More to come

[duffyd]

Dr. Stephan Smith, founder of The Smith Center for Infectious Diseases and Urban Health, says not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated.

“The chance of that occurring by chance, according to my sons Leon and Hunter who did some stats for me, are .000-something,” he said, adding that “it’s ridiculously low."

[duffyd]

MORE EVIDENCE OF THE EFFICACY OF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND AZITHROMYCIN
This could be extremely important: a renowned French doctor has reported the most extensive evidence so far that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin can be an effective treatment for COVID-19:

Today, Prof. Didier Raoult and his team published results of their new study. The study was supported by the Institut Hospitalo-Universitaire (IHU) Méditerranée Infection. Unlike the previous small study trial, the new observation study has a larger sample size of 80 COVID-19 patients. The objective of the study was to find an effective treatment to cure COVID-19 patients and to decrease the virus carriage duration.
In 80 in-patients receiving a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, the team found a clinical improvement in all but one 86 year-old patient who died, and one 74-year old patient still in intensive care unit. The team also found that, by administering hydroxychloroquine combined with azithromycin, they were able to observe an improvement in all cases, except in one patient who arrived with an advanced form, who was over the age of 86, and in whom the evolution was irreversible, according to a new paper published today in IHU Méditerranée Infection.

[Kryptid]

MORE EVIDENCE OF THE EFFICACY OF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND AZITHROMYCIN
This could be extremely important: a renowned French doctor has reported the most extensive evidence so far that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin can be an effective treatment for COVID-19:

Can you provide a link?

[duffyd]

MORE EVIDENCE OF THE EFFICACY OF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND AZITHROMYCIN
This could be extremely important: a renowned French doctor has reported the most extensive evidence so far that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin can be an effective treatment for COVID-19:

Can you provide a link?

If you use key words you should find it. Just heard another report by a Jewish doctor who says he's had perfect results so far using it.

I will find it. it will take a minute

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-stephen-smith-on-effectiveness-of-hydroxychloroquine-with-coronavirus-symptoms-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-pandemic