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Neither statement is true. It's good enough for everyday practical chemistry and engineering but these phenomena are not prevented by any known physics.
Quote from: CliveG on 05/04/2020 17:24:23I was about 55 to 60 when events gave me more assurance that the probability of the existence of God was reasonably likely. I still retain some skepticism and accept I may be wrong. Can you explain how I was absolutely certain a biker would die on an open road in good weather with little traffic and there was no problem with the way he was driving? That to me was the one example that illustrates the existence of the supernatural.You are at your computer reading this, and suddenly you get a shock (and I mean a shock as if it had happened) that a car is going to crash into the side of the house in 5 minutes and you leave the room. The crash happens. A mild sunny day with little traffic and no unusual sounds. The man just dies at the wheel of the car from a heart attack and does not take the corner. It happens to you and no-one believes you - but you know what happened.i dont know you personally or that exact circumstance but science has many explanations for this. 1 possibility from the top of my head is the same as when we know what song will come on the radio next or we know who the next person to call us is. it happens to everyone and is quite well understood by science. theres nothing supernatural there. its just our brain doing what it does. a bit like when you dream about some stranger, and then the next day you meet that stranger for the first time. again, perfectly explainable by science. nothing supernatural.so i used to get surprised by this stuff, thinking i was 'special'. until i learned more facts.
I was about 55 to 60 when events gave me more assurance that the probability of the existence of God was reasonably likely. I still retain some skepticism and accept I may be wrong. Can you explain how I was absolutely certain a biker would die on an open road in good weather with little traffic and there was no problem with the way he was driving? That to me was the one example that illustrates the existence of the supernatural.You are at your computer reading this, and suddenly you get a shock (and I mean a shock as if it had happened) that a car is going to crash into the side of the house in 5 minutes and you leave the room. The crash happens. A mild sunny day with little traffic and no unusual sounds. The man just dies at the wheel of the car from a heart attack and does not take the corner. It happens to you and no-one believes you - but you know what happened.
1 possibility from the top of my head is the same as when we know what song will come on the radio next or we know who the next person to call us is. it happens to everyone and is quite well understood by science. theres nothing supernatural there. its just our brain doing what it does.a bit like when you dream about some stranger, and then the next day you meet that stranger for the first time. again, perfectly explainable by science. nothing supernatural.
Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 03:56:37BTW, I want to repeat: Science provides overwhelming reasons why GOD must be. Even to suggest otherwise is ludicrous.you show me yours and ill show you mineactually, not really. science can not prove that there is no god. and it cant prove there is a god. there is evidence for both, but neither is provable. so the default position should be that until one is proven, both are possible. ever heard of Schrodingers cat. to accept one of those options as true is "lying to oneself" (there is a better phrase but cant think of it)
BTW, I want to repeat: Science provides overwhelming reasons why GOD must be. Even to suggest otherwise is ludicrous.
Indeed since the observable universe seems to have a finite age, physics actually demands ex nihilo creation of matter
How about the ex nihilo of the laws of physics?
Can you prove that?
Faith in ‘Creatio Ex Nihilo’ (CEN) theory is real faith.
No. I can't, but He can. Right now. Right here. He can and will convince you He is real and will utterly amaze, stun, surprise, you UTTERLY. HE's dying to, literally, He died a horrible death for YOU. So you and he can know each other as best friends.
Quote from: duffyd on 05/04/2020 19:42:59Faith in ‘Creatio Ex Nihilo’ (CEN) theory is real faith. Wrong. Faith is acceptance of a hypothesis in the face of facts. It is distinct from belief (acceptance in the absence of facts) or science (investigation of a hypothesis by means of facts).
Quote from: jfoldbar on 05/04/2020 19:43:091 possibility from the top of my head is the same as when we know what song will come on the radio next or we know who the next person to call us is. it happens to everyone and is quite well understood by science. theres nothing supernatural there. its just our brain doing what it does.a bit like when you dream about some stranger, and then the next day you meet that stranger for the first time. again, perfectly explainable by science. nothing supernatural.I had not heard of a scientific explanation for this before. What is the mechanism?
Science clearly establishes that GOD is.
I had not heard of a scientific explanation for this before. What is the mechanism?
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