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The mechanism of the formation of waves of killers
« on: 29/11/2019 16:52:44 »
A huge number of tidal waves move in the seas and oceans.
When tidal waves collide with the coastline of the continents, tides are formed.
When two tidal waves collide in the open ocean, a killer wave forms.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave
The magnitude of the killer waves can be calculated using the following formula: H = T1 • T2.
Where T is the kinetic energy of the tidal wave.
Experiment to the topic: The mystery of the Bermuda Triangle - killer waves

As we see, killer waves are formed only in those seas where tidal waves are formed and the higher the amplitude of the tides, the higher the killer waves.
In seas where tides do not form, killer waves do not occur.
List of seas where tides and killer waves are formed, more than 50 cm high:
Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, West Mediterranean, Bering Sea, Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargas Sea, Hudson Bay, Maine Bay, Alaska Bay, etc.
List of seas where tides and killer waves are formed, less than 50 cm high:
Baltic Sea, Greenland Sea, Black Sea, Sea of ​​Azov, Chukchi Sea, Kara Sea, Laptev Sea, Red Sea, Sea of ​​Marmara, Caribbean Sea, Sea of ​​Japan, Gulf of Mexico, etc.
In the season of abnormally high tides, abnormally high killer waves form.
The highest tides and killer waves are formed in the North Atlantic, in the Pacific Ocean in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, etc.

You can conduct a simple experiment if two stones are simultaneously thrown into a bath of water. (the distance between the stones is 10 - 15 cm).
When a tidal wave collides, the emerging killer wave foams and a larger wave pulls through a smaller wave somewhat.
You can create a killer wave with a height of 0.3 meters and a duration of 0.5 seconds, if two divers at the same time jump "bomb" into the pond from a height of 2 meters. (distance between jumping 3 meters).
If, in a cup with water, hit simultaneously with two tablespoons and a "killer wave" is formed there.
The mechanism of formation of the tidal hump in the river, and killer waves in the oceans is similar and the height of the tidal hump in the river depends on the kinetic energy of the current in the river, and the kinetic energy of the tidal wave.
https://images.app.goo.gl/fNxSM5ZBGN5evNQi9

Tidal waves move in the open ocean in different directions, at speeds up to 100 km / h, they are also called solitons or Rossby waves.
Barely visible tidal waves colliding with storm waves create a killer wave and are the main cause of the wreck of ships.
https://goo.gl/images/icF4zf
The map shows the areas of the most frequent occurrence of killer waves.
In the North Atlantic, killer waves form mainly around the perimeter of the North Atlantic planetary cycle as a result of the collision of tidal waves with storm waves (three sisters).
Suloy is a throw of water on the surface of the sea.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B9

The hypothesis that the superposition of wind waves can be the cause of the formation of rogue waves does not stand up to criticism, since rogue waves are also formed during a calm period. (Wind waves do not form a tidal wave).
The statement that methane floating from the bottom of the ocean sharply reduces the density of water and the vessel loses buoyancy is also not true, since a decrease in the density of water cannot cause mechanical damage to ships and oil platforms.
The crews of the ships always record the impact of a huge wave, but no one has yet been able to record the methane emission.

In the North Sea, off the coast of Norway, on the Dropner oil platform on January 1, 1995, during a 12-meter storm wave, a killer wave of 25.6 meters was formed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draupner_wave
I believe the reason for this natural phenomenon is a tidal current that moves along the coast of Norway from west to east, reflecting a tidal wave from itself, both towards the coast and towards the open sea.
Also, north of the Dropner oil platform through the Pentland Firth Strait, a current moves at a speed of 16 knots from west to east, reflecting a tidal wave north and south.
https://www.equinor.com/en/what-we-do/partner-operated-fields-in-norway/draupner.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea
In the North Sea, only storm and tidal waves move.
And only, the interaction of tidal and storm waves can be the cause of the formation of killer waves.

Continuation: "The mechanism of thermoregulation of the Earth."
Forum Akademgorodok Novosibirsk. The science. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
Forum of Nizhny Novgorod State University named after N.I. Lobachevsky.
http://forum.unn.ru/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=10331&sid=cfbc49e0cf32263eff20888ca205ab15
The opening was published in the Russian-German peer-reviewed journal “Eastern European Scientific Journal” No. 3/2015. Page 64. June
Scientific journal NBIKS-Nauka.Tehnologii No. 4/2018. Page 104.
(Nanotechnological Society of Russia).
French Maritime Forum.
http://forummarine.forumactif.com/t9357-le-flux-et-reflux-est-le-resultat-de-la-rotation-de-la-terre
Continuation: English forum. "Weather/Earth sciences" https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=35094.0
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #1 on: 29/11/2019 17:41:33 »
The Bermuda Triangle does not appear to experience losses of ships and planes at a greater rate than other areas of the world based on percentage: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/bermuda-triangle-mystery-solved-latest-theories-dr-karl-kruszelnicki-debunked-unexplained-a7861731.html

If there was some kind of anomalous loss of vehicles, however, killer waves wouldn't explain the loss of aircraft.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #2 on: 30/11/2019 08:51:18 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 29/11/2019 16:52:44
The vast expanses of the oceans plow a huge number of tidal waves.
When tidal waves collide with the coastline of the continents, tides are formed.
When tidal waves collide in the open ocean, killer waves form.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer Waves
The aforesaid can be easily checked if two liter cans are simultaneously thrown into the bath with water (the distance between the lying cans is 10 cm).
When a tidal wave collides, the resulting killer wave foams and a larger wave pulls through a smaller wave somewhat.
You can create a killer wave with a height of 0.3 meters and a duration of 0.5 seconds, if two divers at the same time jump a "bomb" into a pond from a height of 2 meters (the distance between jumping 3 meters).
If you simultaneously hit two tablespoons in a cup of water and a "killer wave" is formed there.
The height of the killer wave can be calculated by the following formula: H = T1 • ​​T2,
where T is the kinetic energy of the tidal wave.
https://images.app.goo.gl/fNxSM5ZBGN5evNQi9
The mechanism of formation of the tidal hump in the river and killer waves in the oceans is similar and the height of the tidal hump in the river depends on the kinetic energy of the current in the river, and the kinetic energy of the tidal wave.

The place of the possible penetration of the killer waves can be predicted from the circuit maps and, accordingly, plot routes.
An approaching killer wave or tsunami can be partially neutralized by creating a series of oncoming waves, torpedoes or shells.
If two tidal waves do not collide with each other, then they move freely across the ocean at a speed of about 100 km / h and they are called Rossby waves.
Three sisters is a tidal wave collision with three storm waves.

Tidal waves colliding with storm waves create killer waves and are the main cause of ship wrecks.
Knowing the tidal schedule, one should accordingly choose the time and route of movement in the seas and oceans.

https://goo.gl/images/icF4zf
The map shows the areas of the most frequent occurrence of killer waves.

https://images.app.goo.gl/DZWdKoRxvJ214xWP6
The animation shows how a killer wave forms in the Bermuda Triangle as a result of a tidal wave collision.
The clocks installed on the animation show that killer waves in the Bermuda Triangle are generated twice a day, at 12 and at 24 o’clock.
Based on the animation shown, you can create a calendar for the formation of killer waves, not only for future years but also for previous ones.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_Triangle
'Killer waves' are most certainly not the main cause of shipwrecks. The majority of ships are wrecked due to running aground.

Pretty much everything else in the above is wrong too. Why waste time posting this nonsense?
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #3 on: 01/12/2019 20:00:55 »
Why are you  trying to explain something that does not exist?
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #4 on: 01/12/2019 20:17:14 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 01/12/2019 19:56:54
Video to the topic: The Secret of the Bermuda Triangle - killer waves
Why do you post such made up nonsense? Why do you post obvious falsehoods such as the one about killer waves being the main cause of shipwrecks?
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #5 on: 02/12/2019 06:26:33 »
The stupider the hypothesis, the easier it is to refute it, provided that the opponent is not stupid!
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #6 on: 02/12/2019 17:36:39 »
I had heard that convulsive releases of gas from subsea reservoirs, such as methane clathrates, might be one cause of vessel loss in that geography. Or am I mistaken?
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #7 on: 02/12/2019 18:56:42 »
OK, Let's try again
THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE DOES NOT EXIST. IT IS A MYTH. YOU DO NOT NEED TO "EXPLAIN" IT.

Any claim to explain it is necessarily wrong.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #8 on: 02/12/2019 19:47:54 »
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OK, Let's try again
THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE DOES NOT EXIST. IT IS A MYTH. YOU DO NOT NEED TO "EXPLAIN" IT.

Any claim to explain it is necessarily wrong.
Please read the article carefully, I do not say that the Bermuda Triangle is a special zone.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #9 on: 02/12/2019 20:20:37 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 02/12/2019 19:47:54
I do not say that the Bermuda Triangle is a special zone.
It gets 28 mentions on this page as well as being the title of the thread.
That's "saying it is special".
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 29/11/2019 16:52:44
The height of the killer wave can be calculated by the following formula: H = T1 • ​​T2,
where T is the kinetic energy of the tidal wave.
You also need to learn about dimensional analysis. That way you would know that the equation is wrong, before you posted it.
« Last Edit: 02/12/2019 20:23:12 by Bored chemist »
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #10 on: 02/12/2019 20:36:44 »
Quote from: chris on 02/12/2019 17:36:39
I had heard that convulsive releases of gas from subsea reservoirs, such as methane clathrates, might be one cause of vessel loss in that geography. Or am I mistaken?
The hypothesis that methane that emerges from the earth's surface sharply reduces the density of water and the ship falls into the formed funnel does not stand up to criticism, because
methane emissions cannot mechanically damage ships and oil platforms.
Ship teams always record the impact of a huge wave, but no one has yet recorded a methane release.
The assertion that the imposition of wind waves can be the cause of the formation of killer waves is not true, since killer waves also form during calm.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #11 on: 02/12/2019 20:38:41 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 02/12/2019 06:26:33
The stupider the hypothesis, the easier it is to refute it, provided that the opponent is not stupid!
This is new: A poster of a nonsense theory admitting his own stupidity.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #12 on: 02/12/2019 20:52:14 »
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I do not say that the Bermuda Triangle is a special zone.
It gets 28 mentions on this page as well as being the title of the thread.
That's "saying it is special".
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 29/11/2019 16:52:44
The height of the killer wave can be calculated by the following formula: H = T1 • ​​T2,
where T is the kinetic energy of the tidal wave.
You also need to learn about dimensional analysis. That way you would know that the equation is wrong, before you posted it.
1. The title of the topic is the Bermuda Triangle, I wrote to attract the attention of the public.
What are killer waves, many do not know.
2. Kinetic energy is measured in joules, and I wrote in meters, so it is more clear.
And this is not the most important thing in this theory.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #13 on: 02/12/2019 22:11:43 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 02/12/2019 20:52:14
And this is not the most important thing in this theory.
The thing which proves that your idea is wrong IS the most important bit.
For a start, because I know that you are wrong, I can save myself the bother of reading your other tosh.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #14 on: 09/12/2019 06:19:22 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 29/11/2019 17:41:33
The Bermuda Triangle does not appear to experience losses of ships and planes at a greater rate than other areas of the world based on percentage: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/bermuda-triangle-mystery-solved-latest-theories-dr-karl-kruszelnicki-debunked-unexplained-a7861731.html

If there was some kind of anomalous loss of vehicles, however, killer waves wouldn't explain the loss of aircraft.
I think that needs clarity, hurricaines, the gulf stream, reefs and rogue waves are all going to have an effect, especially on old wood galeons. Its not the only known trouble zone, anywhere with tropical currents and hurricaines is going to have a higher occourence of  rough conditions. The south seas are better known for freak waves as the uninterrupted curculation inflicted by pacific atlantic and indian incursions. I do concede that the bermuda triangle is a bit of a bottlekneck during empire times.

http://www.shipwreckexpo.com/bermudashipwreckswrecklist.htm
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #15 on: 14/12/2019 21:50:18 »
Who knows, hypotheses or hypothesis authors revealing the mystery of killer waves?
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #16 on: 22/12/2019 09:59:47 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 30/11/2019 08:51:18
'Killer waves' are most certainly not the main cause of shipwrecks. The majority of ships are wrecked due to running aground.
Sailors recognize the depth of the sea from maps, this is not a big problem.
For gales, there is a weather forecast.
And the killer waves, no one sees them and no one predicts.
In the seas and oceans, there are more killer waves than sailors think.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #17 on: 22/12/2019 11:10:38 »
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Quote from: The Spoon on 30/11/2019 08:51:18
'Killer waves' are most certainly not the main cause of shipwrecks. The majority of ships are wrecked due to running aground.
Sailors recognize the depth of the sea from maps, this is not a big problem.
For gales, there is a weather forecast.
And the killer waves, no one sees them and no one predicts.
In the seas and oceans, there are more killer waves than sailors think.
As I am a sailor myself I am well aware of nautical charts. Your response is utter crap  - why do you waste bandwidth with such nonsense? . As I pointed out, your so called 'killer waves' are not the main cause of shipwrecks which means you lied or are woefully ignorant - or indeed both.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #18 on: 22/12/2019 14:30:53 »
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In the seas and oceans, there are more killer waves than sailors think.
Prove it.
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Re: Is the mystery killer of the Bermuda Triangle killer waves?
« Reply #19 on: 22/12/2019 22:34:14 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 22/12/2019 09:59:47
And the killer waves, no one sees them and no one predicts.
If no one sees them how do you know they exist?

Your statement is also incorrect because waves of all sizes are being seen from satellites monitoring the oceans in order to measure and predict. This doesn’t help your title question because there is no evidence that there are a greater number of large waves in the so called Bermuda Triangle.

Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 22/12/2019 09:59:47
In the seas and oceans, there are more killer waves than sailors think.
That depends on the sailors and how well informed they are.

PS Have you heard the latest news about the Bermuda Triangle?  It’s disappeared.  ;D
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