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Are you inclined to believe matter is made of spacetime events?

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Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events

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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #80 on: 19/01/2021 16:15:24 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/01/2021 15:55:27
Yes you were.

It is your word against mine and I am in this body.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #81 on: 19/01/2021 17:21:34 »
For peer-reviewed articles see here:

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2014/09/scientific-evidence-for-telepathy-tha/
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #82 on: 19/01/2021 18:18:58 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 19/01/2021 16:15:24
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/01/2021 15:55:27
Yes you were.

It is your word against mine and I am in this body.
Not really.
If you hallucinated something that's not possible, then it's your word against reality.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #83 on: 19/01/2021 18:21:14 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 19/01/2021 17:21:34
For peer-reviewed articles see here:

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2014/09/scientific-evidence-for-telepathy-tha/
Ooh!
A hundred papers.
One would be enough if it wa actually correct.

The biggest argument against telepathy is that if it was possible, it would be universal.
It would confer too big an evolutionary advantage to ignore.
Anyone without it would be a second class citizen, and those with would be the ruling elite.

So, are you part of the ruling elite?
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #84 on: 19/01/2021 18:31:49 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/01/2021 18:21:14
The biggest argument against telepathy is that if it was possible, it would be universal.

It is universal, it is just that people think they are hallucinating and then automatically relegate it to the subconscious.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #85 on: 19/01/2021 18:52:05 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 19/01/2021 18:31:49
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/01/2021 18:21:14
The biggest argument against telepathy is that if it was possible, it would be universal.

It is universal, it is just that people think they are hallucinating and then automatically relegate it to the subconscious.

Why?
Why would they have done that?
If there was some small group who didn't do that they would take over the world.
Have you?
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #86 on: 19/01/2021 20:12:52 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 19/01/2021 14:54:52
Your thinking of the number 120.

Nope, it was 733. So that's two pieces of evidence against your claimed telepathic powers.

Quote from: talanum1 on 19/01/2021 14:54:52
Maybe it's in your subconscious.

That would make your claim, conveniently, non-testable.

Quote from: talanum1 on 19/01/2021 14:54:52
Please do a search and let me know.

Do a search? I'm not exactly a PC.

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I wasn't hallucinating because the happenings happened in a coherent sequence and Earth fetched the particles from the correct location.

And how do you know that?

Quote from: talanum1 on 19/01/2021 16:15:24
It is your word against mine and I am in this body.

Unfortunately, "your word against mine" isn't good enough for science. You have to have something concrete that is open to outside investigation.

Quote from: talanum1 on 19/01/2021 18:31:49
It is universal, it is just that people think they are hallucinating and then automatically relegate it to the subconscious.

See, the problem is that your claims are (to an outsider) indistinguishable from a hallucination. Tell us how we, as outsiders, can know that you aren't hallucinating.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #87 on: 20/01/2021 09:59:10 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 19/01/2021 20:12:52
And how do you know that?

I felt it.

Quote from: Kryptid on 19/01/2021 20:12:52
Tell us how we, as outsiders, can know that you aren't hallucinating.

I can just try to send telepathic messages. Hallucinations tend to be isolated, this was a whole series of events.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/01/2021 18:52:05
Why?
Why would they have done that?

They are afraid.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/01/2021 18:52:05
If there was some small group who didn't do that they would take over the world.
Have you?

I can't answer that question.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #88 on: 20/01/2021 11:55:55 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 09:59:10
I can just try to send telepathic messages.
You did try.
It failed.

How many times does it have to fail before you accept that it does not work?
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #89 on: 20/01/2021 11:56:28 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 09:59:10
I can't answer that question.
Why not?
Surely you would know if you ruled the world?
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #90 on: 20/01/2021 11:57:10 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 09:59:10
They are afraid.
What of?
As I said, these are the people who will be the ruling elite.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #91 on: 20/01/2021 14:03:29 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 20/01/2021 11:55:55
How many times does it have to fail before you accept that it does not work?

Till my past gets proved wrong. I transferred quite complicated and long messages, like my Doctoral Thesis to Nuremberg University. They dictated it back to me.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 20/01/2021 11:56:28
Surely you would know if you ruled the world?

I do control people.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 20/01/2021 11:57:10
What of?

Of seeming unreality.
« Last Edit: 20/01/2021 16:16:10 by talanum1 »
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #92 on: 20/01/2021 19:53:39 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 09:59:10
I felt it.

You do know that feelings can be hallucinations, right?

Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 09:59:10
I can just try to send telepathic messages.

It didn't work when you tried it on me.

Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 09:59:10
Hallucinations tend to be isolated

Not for people with psychosis.

Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 14:03:29
Till my past gets proved wrong.

In what sense?

Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 14:03:29
I transferred quite complicated and long messages, like my Doctoral Thesis to Nuremberg University. They dictated it back to me.

When you say "They dictated it back to me", did they do it via a phone call or E-mail? Because it you merely heard it in your head, that could have just been a hallucination. So let me ask again: to an outside observer, how can we distinguish your experiences from hallucinations?

Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 14:03:29
I do control people.

When and how?
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #93 on: 20/01/2021 19:55:45 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 31/08/2020 10:34:07
The proof goes as follows:

Number Statement                                                                                                     Reason
1         Positively and negatively charged matter particles attracts and exist in
              spacetime.                                                                                                    Postulate
2         Matter particles must substitute for spacetime events.                                1
3         Only spacetime events may substitute for other spacetime events.              Postulate
4         Matter particles must be made of spacetime events.                                   2, 3
QED.

I have my own theory that particles of matter are composed of space. Take a look at

I can't tell from what you're saying if we think the same thing. Maybe you can tell me after watching my video.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #94 on: 20/01/2021 20:07:47 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 20/01/2021 14:03:29
I transferred quite complicated and long messages, like my Doctoral Thesis to Nuremberg University. They dictated it back to me.
No, you did not.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #95 on: 21/01/2021 07:47:44 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 20/01/2021 19:55:45
I can't tell from what you're saying if we think the same thing.

Yes, we are saying the same thing. Why didn't you vote?

Quote from: Kryptid on 20/01/2021 19:53:39
In what sense?

Like in: the voices were hallucinations.

Quote from: Kryptid on 20/01/2021 19:53:39
When and how?

All the time. They are descendants of creatures created from my brain in a previous life, therefore my brain controls them.

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So let me ask again: to an outside observer, how can we distinguish your experiences from hallucinations?

If someone else can also make particles.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #96 on: 21/01/2021 12:19:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/01/2021 13:05:51
Quote from: puppypower on 19/01/2021 12:13:33
Maybe we can discuss a parallel topic, that is a compromise. Can highly localized space-time events impact point particles that already exist? For example, the outer electrons of larger metallic atoms, can travel at a significant fraction of the speed of light and can thereby display relativistic affects; Relativistic Quantum Chemistry.

For example, the yellow color of gold can be explained as a local time shift, around the outer electrons of gold, such that all all colors that reflect off these the outer electrons of gold will take on a yellowish cast. The outer electrons of gold are in a different space-time reference; SR, than the nucleus of the same atoms. These two references will create uncertainty relative to the electrons and nucleus, since each sees different propagations of space-time events. This makes gold very inert, to most of chemistry, since most chemical space-time frames do not overlap very well with the relativistic frames of the outer electrons of gold. There is uncertainty.

As we go from the outer electrons, to the inner electrons of gold, the electrons move faster and faster, like a skater who pulls their arms in while spinning. These inner electron references are so different from most of outer electron chemistry, that the nucleus cannot easily steal an inner electron nor do these inner electrons have any connection to any physical property of gold we can measure, since they are in their own frame.

These examples do not use space-time references to create particles, but it does use space-time events to manipulate particles that already exist. For example, proton or electron tunneling could be explained by shifts in the local space-time grid, so particles can break out of one expected reference, and enter another reference so it can move to the beat of its own drum. On the other side it exists the space-time induction,

In this case a collection of atoms, such as in liquid water, two overlapping spar-time grids appear, one in the nucleus reference and the other in the electron reference. These two grids can impact their own kind more that the other kind. In the case of water the hydrogen proton becomes very mobile and can even tunnel in pairs. This is very useful for creating and sustaining life, which depends on the free migration of hydrogen protons via hydrogen bonding.
That post also
"has sunk to new depths of head screwing and make believe and does not belong on a science forum, even in the wacky section. "

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For example, the yellow color of gold can be explained as a local time shift,
No, it can't.
Quote from: puppypower on 19/01/2021 12:13:33
The outer electrons of gold are in a different space-time reference; SR, than the nucleus of the same atoms.
Why?
Same gravity; same speed.

Quote from: puppypower on 19/01/2021 12:13:33
like a skater who pulls their arms in while spinning.
Not really.
More like a skier who's going down hill (and not much like that either).

Quote from: puppypower on 19/01/2021 12:13:33
These inner electron references
What is it with you and the word "reference"?
You seem to stick it randomly into stuff.



Quote from: puppypower on 19/01/2021 12:13:33
These examples do not use space-time references to create particles,
Good... because that's meaningless.


Quote from: puppypower on 19/01/2021 12:13:33
On the other side it exists the space-time induction,
Word salad.
Quote from: puppypower on 19/01/2021 12:13:33
In this case a collection of atoms, such as in liquid water, two overlapping spar-time grids appear, one in the nucleus reference and the other in the electron reference. These two grids can impact their own kind more that the other kind. In the case of water the hydrogen proton becomes very mobile and can even tunnel in pairs. This is very useful for creating and sustaining life, which depends on the free migration of hydrogen protons via hydrogen bonding.
More word salad.

Study relativistic quantum chemistry and come back to be me. The unique properties of some atoms can be explained using the assumption of special relativity affects on outer electrons. The Schoedrenger equation was written before Einstein's Relativity was mainstream, and did not include it. Relativity was added fifty years later and was found to be good at making predictions where the original equation fails.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #97 on: 21/01/2021 12:58:33 »
Quote from: puppypower on 21/01/2021 12:19:13
The unique properties of some atoms can be explained using the assumption of special relativity affects on outer electrons.
Yes, they can.
But not, it seems, by you.
Quote from: puppypower on 21/01/2021 12:19:13
Relativity was added fifty years later and was found to be good at making predictions where the original equation fails.
And a decade or so after that was when I was at Uni, studying chemistry.

Quote from: puppypower on 21/01/2021 12:19:13
Study relativistic quantum chemistry
I did (see above).
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #98 on: 21/01/2021 15:27:59 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 20/01/2021 19:53:39
When you say "They dictated it back to me", did they do it via a phone call or E-mail? Because it you merely heard it in your head, that could have just been a hallucination.

It couldn't have been a hallucination: it was too long and detailed and it rhymed with my other work.
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Re: Proof that Matter is Made out of Spacetime Events
« Reply #99 on: 21/01/2021 16:29:40 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 21/01/2021 15:27:59
Quote from: Kryptid on 20/01/2021 19:53:39
When you say "They dictated it back to me", did they do it via a phone call or E-mail? Because it you merely heard it in your head, that could have just been a hallucination.

It couldn't have been a hallucination: it was too long and detailed and it rhymed with my other work.
You forgot to answer th equestion.
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