Sport Special

With the Rugby World Cup underway, and FIFA 20 being released... it has to be a sport special this month!
21 October 2019
Presented by Chris Berrow, Leigh Milner
Production by Chris Berrow, Leigh Milner.


Football players inside a see-through football


The Rugby World Cup is taking place in Japan, and FIFA 20 has just been released, so this month it’s a sport special! Including Virtual Reality Go Karting… yes really. And we meet the author who was inspired to write poetry by playing Super Mario! New reviews include Mario Kart Tour, Trine 4 and Untitled Goose Game. For Retro Revival it’s Darksiders 2 on the Nintendo Switch and Apple Arcade. With Chris Berrow and Leigh Milner.

In this episode


05:01 - Who will win the Rugby World Cup?

Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner go head to head in a game of Rugby 20 to determine who will be the champion.

Who will win the Rugby World Cup?
Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner, Naked Gaming Podcast

With the release of Rugby 20 set for next year, Leigh Milner and Chris Berrow go head to head as England v Japan to see if the game can predict the winner of the Rugby World Cup... 

Chris - You're kicking off.

Leigh - How do you get it out of the ruck when they have tackled?

Yes! Eddie Jones will be proud.

Chris - I don't think they really have the licensing for Eddie Jones… so you know so the generic England manager will be very pleased.

It's the second half Japan to kick off…

Leigh - Am I the whites?

Chris - It’s the second half and you don’t know what team you are? Well yes you are.

Leigh - I'm quite enjoying this. Kicks it. Taps it. Scores.

Chris - Scores a try 15 - 10 to me.

If you get this over you win... is the 80th minute right now in the game

Leigh - Fluke it. Swing low sweet chariot... coming for to carry me.

Chris - It may be,,, I think that because it's the BETA obviously it’s broken.

Leigh - Come back when you’ve had a few practices.

Chris - The screenshot evidence is available now on Twitter @nakedgamingpod. Go look at it.

Did you enjoy the game though... more importantly?

Leigh - Yeah it was okay. I mean I love sports games. I stopped playing sports games three years ago. The problem with this is the controls are a little bit fiddly, and you literally get no instructions no tutorial. It's like here's the game. Blow the whistle. Off we go. See how we get on.

Chris - You can play the BETA now by preordering the game on computer PS4 and Xbox One, it's 40 pounds to pre-order but as I discovered... if you don't massively like the demo you can then cancel your preorder and you get a full refund.


10:08 - The Last of Us Part II - Trailer Reaction

As the latest trailer for The Last of Us Part II is released, Chris Berrow and Leigh Milner react.

The Last of Us Part II - Trailer Reaction
Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner, Naked Gaming Podcast

How is The Last of Us Part II looking in the latest trailer?

Chris - If you missed it, I'll play you a bit of it now.


Chris - So we just watched it for the first time... it’s been really hard to avoid watching that trailer because it's so highly anticipated.

Leigh - What do you think

Chris - I like this game a lot. The Last of Us is one of the best games because the graphics are really good but usually that means that the gameplay is really rubbish. The shooting in the game is amazing, and the story really follows through as well... and it had really good multiplayer. It looks like it carries on from the first one with Ellie who is the girl who you trying to rescue in the first game. The massive shock there for me is that Joel... I think he's called the guy you played as in the first game... comes back. He's back baby.

Leigh - I mean I'm excited for it.

Chris - Yeah it looks like it's a bit more sinister than the previous games. Quite gory. More gory than the last one though, because in the last one the clickers... they didn't tend to have you know it wasn't loads of blood or anything but this one that went well yeah.

Leigh - It looks quite brutal didn't it... you love it because you like your zombie games.

Chris - I do but I liked this one particularly because it's from the same team that made the Uncharted series, so they've got that kind of amazing movement and story from that... but it just looks like they pushed the graphics up to the next level. Like the facial technology you know you can see people's emotions in their eyes and stuff. It's bonkers how good it is nowadays really.

Leigh - It's something I play. It's just it seems to be a lot of games out at the minute that are quite similar. Very similar storyline to you know Days Gone. Quite a similar storyline again isn't it. You know you've got to save the world and battle the zombies. I'm just waiting for something a bit new. That's why I loved Control.

Chris - Oh yeah. We reviewed that last month because that's something different. Their kind of selling point is that you can destroy the environment and throw it at the bad guys around it.

The Last of Us Part II is set for a February release and it's a PS4 exclusive. So if you haven't bought one… maybe for Christmas.


12:43 - New Playstation 5 Announcement

Sony announce... a few... details about the latest PS5

New Playstation 5 Announcement
Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner, Naked Gaming Podcast

Chris Berrow - Sony has announced that the PlayStation 5 is going to launch globally at the end of next year.

Leigh Milner - What.

Chris - So by Christmas 2020.

Leigh - it seems a bit premature doesn't it.

Chris - Well I can understand that they want people to get excited for it.

Leigh - Okay so what's different.

Chris - Well there's no pictures of it available right now. All that we know that's different is that it has a new controller that uses enhanced vibration technology.

Leigh - I mean they should sack their PR company. I mean that's just a bit disappointing. Is this news?

Chris - just about. No pictures available. They're going to have better hardware. Well obviously because it's a PS5... anyway but they're basically not giving much away.

Leigh - We're counting down the days next Christmas... more than 400 days to go.

Chris - Wow. That’s a long time.

A sign displaying Pokemon characters.

Pokemon Sword and Shield quiz
Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner, Naked Gaming Podcast

Chris Berrow - Pokemon Sword and Pokemon Shield are coming next month to Nintendo Switch...


Leigh Milner - Lots of people are very excited for this one.

Chris -  I thought I'd quiz you on your Pokémon knowledge. Now I know that you know the original hundred fifty Pokemon pretty well. How well do you think you know the new pokemon?

5 questions, some of them are real Pokemon, some of them are made up!

Okay question number one: Scorbunny.

Leigh - Oh you've made that up.

Chris - Scorbunny is a real pokemon. Fire type. It's a rabbit like Pokemon that has a white body in orange and yellow markings.


Leigh - Oh you made that one up as well.

Chris - Yeah I did make it up. I was pretending that it is a cow-based Pokemon!


Leigh - Oh I think that's a real one. Sounds like a yogurt.

Chris - Is it real Pokémon. It's a dragon-type Pokemon but it really looks like a slug. It evolves into Goomy. And then it goes into Goodrun at level 50.

Shoop shoop?

Leigh - I think most of our listeners will not know Cher… I’m saying real.

Chris - It's false. It's not a real Pokémon. I made it up because you're going to see Cher.

Leigh - I wanted it to be real and I wanted it to be a little Pokemon with Cher hair.

Chris - Question 5: Zigzagoon?

Leigh - Yes.

Chris - Zigzagoon is a real pokemon. It has zig zag markings but it's a raccoon.

Well you did very well three out of five actually which is a win.

Pokémon Sword and Pokemon Shield are coming to Nintendo Switch on the 15th of November so we'll be reviewing them in next month's episode.

Go karts

18:19 - Virtual Reality Go Karting

Would you wear a VR headset and race a go kart?

Virtual Reality Go Karting
Paul Vowel, CEO of Noize TV

The CEO of Noize TV Paul Vowel takes Chris Berrow through his latest technological development...

Paul - Immediately we understood what we were making just right when we sat down in the go kart trying to say it was everyone wants to be in Mario Kart and real life participate in fighting elements with your teammates and people watching... even spectators with an iPad share in the experience not just people with the glasses who are driving…

Chris - And this is something I've always wanted to happen when I've been go karting before. If you basically get the equivalent of a boost in your car, you know through your headset or someone you know might give you a boost from the sideline your vehicle goes faster.

Paul - It goes faster. Correct. The go karts themselves are set on four different speed variables. Everyone starts off at 2 and throughout the game you can progress up to 60 miles an hour. We can't go in and throw you know shells at each other, but we can't stop the go kart and give the same kind of experience... and the other viewers driving will see you spin out of control.

Chris - Is it quite a difficult thing to actually integrate when you're coming up with it in the first conception.

Paul - To my knowledge we're the only people in the world who have attempted this kind of motion integration into an experience. But the good news is we have put one in Las Vegas and everyone wants to go to Las Vegas. We plan on taking this on the road. I used to be a musician. I'm used to a life of touring. That's how I intend on implementing this.

Super Mario in silhouette

21:08 - Mario Poetry

Super Mario World has inspired one writer to put together a book of poetry!

Mario Poetry
Stephen Sexton, author of If All The World And Love Were Young

Stephen Sexton has been nominated for a Forward prize for 'bet first collection'. He tells Chris Berrow why Mario inspired him to write poetry...

Stephen - I thought it would be kind of silly if somebody wrote about video games... not in general maybe but more particularly Super Mario World. And part of that…. I mean it's a little mischievous but part of it is a little bit about certain ideas of higher art and lower art which I don't necessarily subscribe to. But nevertheless I can't shake that because it’s there.

Chris - You said in one of the headline quoted things “for me death and Super Mario have always been connected”. Now there's obviously like a lighter side of that statement which is that if you play Mario and you’re rubbish, you will die constantly. But I think that there's a more serious side to that as well which you're working into this.

Stephen - That's absolutely true. And as I said much as I thought this would be kind of funny that it would be kind of silly... I mean my mother died in 2012 so when I was writing these in 2015 I suddenly got this feeling that that's actually what I was trying to talk about. So when I was looking at the video game and I was thinking... Yoshi’s House is one of the first places to go... there's a tree and a lot of little berries in the tree. So when I was thinking how do I make this into the real world as such... I thought of the house that I grew up in that had a holly tree in the garden. And it's all red berries.

Chris - That must have been really difficult because, you know you obviously didn't run out of ideas but was there a point where you said - how am I going to do all of the different levels in this... how am I going to relate everything and tie it all together because it must have been a huge challenge.

Stephen - My narrative I suppose is one that describes illness and cancer and treatment and a period of remission and ultimately loss. So it was absolutely hard to do that. But the hardest thing I suppose is being true to that experience even if a protective urge encouraged me not to.

Chris - You really have written a poem called Yellow Switch Palace for example and Yoshi's Island 2 is there next to Yoshi's Island 3. So it is giving you the framework ,but then you express yourself through that I imagine.

Stephen - Absolutely. And that structure was extremely useful. Donut Plains is missing a big hole in its middle. You know I managed to suggest perhaps that the Northern Ireland and Donut Plains are in some ways comparable!

A playstation controller

23:48 - Review - Mario Kart Tour

Is the latest free-to-play Mario Kart Tour for mobile devices any good?

Review - Mario Kart Tour
Alex Rhodes, Mushroom Enthusiast

Alex Rhodes reviews Mario Kart Tour...

Alex - I'm slightly ill this week, stricken down by a deadly case of the man flu... for which there is no cure. As we all know. But that won't stop me playing some Mario Kart some enjoying some sweets Mario Kart action... I've downloaded it for my phone. I'm ready to go. Let's open it up let's get ready. Let's go. Let's a go. As Mario says. Guess what character I just got assigned. Toad. I don't know if you start with like a basic character. We get a car as well. Now. Weirdly you play it vertically. Okay here we go... three two one go.

So you accelerate along... I’ve crashed. I tell you I would not be able to get insurance in the Mushroom Kingdom. I'd just be bouncing off everything... turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn round round round round round round... and whenever I’ve play Mario Kart before I've got a controller my hands... normally... oh I'm in the air... I'm flying... it’s a Diddy Kong Racing rip off -  if you remember that you get to go paragliding.

I think to compensate with the fact that they know the controls are a bit fiddly, you’re going slower... like your base speed is lower... it doesn't have that kind of racing feel somehow.

Okay first that I spent most of the game just smashing into the barriers but I won that race so well done. Now I think you get a reward can go.

Right time for an actual race now, so you get to choose you know your character. I'm also a little worried because it's showing the list of my competitors... a lot of Japanese names in there which makes me a bit concerned that I'm gonna get thoroughly thrashed, because I think this game came out in Japan before it hit the West. I mean not that it's gonna make a difference I'm gonna lose anyway right.

My kart looks tiny and ridiculous. Okay. I picked Bowser - a slow character but it does let me bash people out the way. I've just bashed Hitori out the way... I am currently first. I think it's hopefully ranked me against other complete amateurs.

Somehow I'm first I'm ahead of the pack. Come on come on come. I've what I've actually got a won it.

Unbelievable scenes Chris unbelievable scenes despite being a rank amateur despite not being able to use the controls very well. This is huge. Unstoppable Unstoppable. Suddenly I kind of like this game a bit more now. That's that's weird isn't it. You know now that I've dominated the competition suddenly maybe it's not all bad. Okay. That'll do for now. I'm gonna go on a high because that was incredible.

Chris Berrow - Just a note to say that unfortunately Alex wasn't racing online players, for some reason the game tries to trick you into thinking you are. But Mario Kart Tour isavailable to download now, free on your phone. 

A playstation controller

28:34 - Review - FIFA 20

The latest game in the FIFA franchise FIFA 20 is out now, but are the problems resolved?

Review - FIFA 20
Drew Miller Hyndman, Broadcaster and FIFA enthusiast

Drew Miller Hyndman reviews FIFA 20...

Drew - Another year another FIFA. They've completely changed up how the gameplay works this year and I am loving it. It's actually difficult to play for against the A.I. again. They've also fixed the pace so a fast striker is actually faster than a sense of back. Very satisfying. You're not gonna be facing the same three strikers online and the same for defenders online because you've got a way out. Do I go for speed where I know I can probably outpace someone but will be hopeless in the air or do I get for a bit more height and hope that my pace is still a little bit higher than theirs.

I'm absolutely loving online play and I don't really play online. They've added new modes. They've done pretty well with pretty much everything that it's fun. They have got a new sort of story mode that replaces the journey mode of previous years. That's really cringey and actually quite unplayable in terms of cut scenes. It's fun to play the VOLTA mode, but it's less fun to listen to one dimensional characters deliver lines in a way that just makes me bite my tongue and curl my toes. But the main change is to the gameplay and I think it makes this FIFA probably one of the most revolutionary since we had the Frostbite engine first come to FIFA and I think it also makes it probably one of the best ones. I think this will actually be enjoyable.

The one thing that I think I'm not positive about is the changes to career modes that were really really hyped up. It is still another FIFA. In essence it is still another FIFA but it's probably the most different FIFA from the previous year. We've seen in a long long time and I'm really excited to explore all the new features they put in and the different ways they've changed the game.

Chris Berrow - So it sounds good but after about a week of playing free for 20 Drew actually sent us this update.

Drew - Now unfortunately for all this excitement there are several game breaking bugs coming in this game. It basically means that right now career mode is unplayable at least one of these glitches will happen to you. It's kind of sad and it's a real shame. And they have promised a patent is coming soon but. Right now it's not something that I can even play or recommend buying for now. Maybe when it comes towards Christmas time they will fix that but right now the bugs are pretty unforgivable.

Chris - So not actually looking as good as it originated. So maybe wait till it comes down in price.

A playstation controller

33:12 - Review - Trine 4

It's the latest Trine in the series, but should you but the Trine Ultimate Bundle?

Review - Trine 4
Leigh Milner & Chris Berrow, Naked Gaming Podcast

Chris Berrow and Leigh Milner review Trine 4...


Chris - If you've never played Trine before it's like Super Mario the platforming game with proper graphics. Very complicated puzzles, but in a good way. Also you can switch between three characters - a warrior a wizard and a rogue. And that is Trine. The gameplay is a bit complicated. Each character has a different set of skills... so the rogue you can shoot out ropes and walk along them, you get bow and arrow as well. It's very cool... if you're the wizard you can create a massive square block that you could jump on... which seems a bit weird if you're a wizard. That's not the power that you go for straight away is it?

Leigh - It's like the revolutionized Golden Axe.

Chris - It is a bit like that actually. And then the warrior just is very good at fighting some of the bad guys. I did enjoy it but there's one problem for me which is that I wanted to play it in co-op mode and you have to pay to join the Nintendo Switch online multiplayer mode in order to get access to that... and I thought… I’ve just paid 40 quid for this game. So I don't want to have to pay for this upgrade. Well it's like 10 quid a month so a while that's quite disappointing for me. So I thought that had been included. That's the online multiplayer you can play locally. They've also released the ultimate bundle which has the first four games in. I'd say if you can get this game if you like the first three then get it. I mean it's a stupid thing to say but if you like Trine and 1 2 and 3. This only 10 quid more. It's 40 quid for everything or 30 quid for Trine 4 on it’s own, so just get everything. 6 out of 10. Mostly because of that, although it is available on Switch, Steam, PS4, and Xbox as well.

A playstation controller

Review - Untitled Goose Game
Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner, Naked Gaming Podcast

Chris Berrow and Leigh Milner review one of the strangest games of all time... Untitled Goose Game...


Chris - Untitled Goose Game was the number one seller this month on Switch. I love this. And it outsold Zelda: Link's Awakening. Rightly so because Zelda: Link's Awakening was a bit jerky as I mentioned last month.

It's basically a goose simulator. Stay with me here though because it sounds ridiculous but it's it's it's really good. You're a massively anti-social goose honking about stealing stuff.

Leigh - I mean there's there's a part where you untie someone's poor shoelaces. He's got glasses on he falls and you nick his glasses.

Chris - But it's funny though. But it's really like you know you're a brutal goose.

Leigh - Exactly right. And it's quite funny. You have some quite complicated puzzles you have to sort out. And for 18 pounds! I think that's very cheap.

Chris - The only criticism I have is that it's quite a short game. So you can complete the whole game in four hours if you're just going to bash through it... but you don't bash through.

Leigh - I disagree. It took me four hours just to get to the second level. But what I'll say is when Chris gave me this game...

Chris - You were not impressed at the idea!

Leigh - It is really really good and if you're in a long car journey or you're flying abroad to Antigua say for a wedding... It will pass the time quite well.

Chris - You get lists of stuff to do. So some of the objectives are things like steal the old man's hat and then have a picnic. So you have to like drag carrots out of his garden patch… get a tomato, picnic basket and a sandwich. But then every single character once you've completed the little level puts up a no goose sign. It could have a few more objectives but that might come in the future.

Leigh - It's out now on Steam and Nintendo's Switch, and its 18 pounds... and for more simulators download our Simulator Special episode from August. Available now on iTunes, Spotify everywhere!

A group of retro game characters including Space Invaders

39:23 - Retro Revival - Darksiders II: Deathinitive

In one of the most convoluted titles of all time, is the remaster of Darksiders II better than it's name?

Retro Revival - Darksiders II: Deathinitive
Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner, Naked Gaming Podcast

Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner review Darksiders II: Deathinitive Edition...


Chris - So the original was released in 2012 and I never played it. I was getting excited for this to finally get into this game because they've just released it for Nintendo Switch which obviously as you heard last month is quite new for us. So you play as Death trying to save your brother War from evil forces. Now I thought that Death and War were evil forces. So I didn't get that. Your plan eventually is to revive the human race, but the problem is that - as Death - even though you're supposed to be Death, you're not powerful. And then you get injured very early on... why is death getting injured? Because you're supposed to be super-powerful as Death?!

Leigh - What happens when he gets killed?

Chris - Exactly. He actually just restarts from the checkpoint, which doesn't make any sense. I didn't like the animation. I didn't really like the platforming that much. You could run up the walls though as Death!

Leigh - Oh well that's all right then.

Chris - The combat was pretty good, but it was such a disappointment. Giving it a solid 2 out of 10… actually, no, I'm just subtracting two points because “deathinitive” is not a word.

Leigh - So go on then give it a big fat zero!

Chris - It’s out now on Switch. But you can also get on Windows, Xbox and PS4 if you're mad for twenty five pounds.

A group of retro game characters including Space Invaders

42:01 - Retro Revival - Call of Duty Mobile

Before Call of Duty Modern Warfare... why not try the free-to-play Call of Duty Mobile?

Retro Revival - Call of Duty Mobile
Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner, Naked Gaming Podcast

Chris Berrow & Leigh Milner review Call of Duty Mobile...


Leigh - Now the new Call of Duty Modern Warfare is coming next month. But if you can't wait that long then why not try. Call of Duty mobile. You get classic maps a great team deathmatch mode although the controls are a bit fiddly. It's basically the same maps that you've played before in previous Call of Duty games.

Chris - Although there are only five at the moment it's actually fine though for a free game as well. For a free download on your phone it was very good. The controls are fine. You know how it can be very difficult to do like a first person shooter on Your phone. Because there's no light analog sticks.

Leigh - I can't imagine how you would play that.

Chris - Well you sort of press onto the screen so the left half of your screen is moving around the right half of your screen is aiming but the hard bit comes when you've got to shoot and aim at the same time. But they've managed to do it reasonably well... then the new thing which I've never seen before is there's a Battle Royale mode which is very similar to Fortnite... we talked about Battle Royale modes for people who don't know what Battle Royale means. Have you ever seen The Hunger Games.

Leigh - Yeah.

Chris - It's basically like that. So you get a massive area is 100 people and the area gradually gets smaller forcing you to the middle and it's a huge massive Deathmatch and last person standing wins. I could see why people are addicted to it... in that mode you can go third person rather than first person so the camera can go over your shoulder which is I've never seen before in a COD game... so that's really good. It also got more downloads than Fortnite when it was released.

Leigh - I'm not surprised it's very popular.

Chris - You can stick a controller onto it and played through a controller but then what's the point of getting on your phone. I would say stick to deathmatch because the Battle Royale is is fine, but you know it's nothing special... but deathmatch is great.

Leigh - Call of Duty mobile is out now for mobile devices.

A group of retro game characters including Space Invaders

44:12 - Retro Revival - Apple Arcade

As Apple Arcade is launched with 100 games available, we look at the top 5!

Retro Revival - Apple Arcade
Dr Tony Fisher with Olly & Phoebe, broadcasters and Apple Arcade enthusiasts

Tony Fisher and his superstar reviewers Olly and Phoebe review Apple Arcade...

Tony - On the Apple App Store particularly for Apple TV a lot of the games were shall we say below par. They weren't very exciting. So with Apple Arcade and all the trailers that came out beforehand we had high hopes... and I'm pleased to say Olly is with me now. Before we go through our top five games full up arcade…. what's your view on the game platform itself. What do you make of it?

Olly - I think it's like really good job they're like age appropriate and I think there’s 100 plus games. They're family friendly which means I can play them.

Tony - And that's a big thing isn't it. Cause quite a lot of games are 12 is a 16 and 18. Phoebe. A quick word from you what do you make of what you've seen of Apple Arcade. You're not quite as big a gamer as Olly, but you do like a game on your phone don't you as well.

Phoebe - I think it's a really good idea because like all the games are age appropriate and they're not like low quality games.

Tony - And also because we're running it through the Apple TV we can run any device through it so Bluetooth remote devices we've had the one that was made for Apple the actual Siri device which isn't very good for gameplaym and now we can hook up Bluetooth to the PS4 controller to play the Apple TV games. So enough of the geek-ism... let us give you our top five Apple TV games on the new Apple arcade.

Tony - At number five. Frogger in Toy Town. What do we have to do in this one.

Olly - So basically it’s crossing roads.

Tony - At number four. Phoebe what have you chosen.

Phoebe - Projection..

Tony - And what's projection like?

Phoebe - It's all about shadows and doing like a little girl following a dream.

Tony - Yeah ingenious bit a gameplay here where you have to cast a shadow which makes a little bridge that gets you from one place to another... so it's a platformer but it's got a real serene quality about it that's Projection at number four.

Number 3… here's a one you'll see tons of trailers for even bus sightings at number 3.

Olly - Hot Lava.

Tony - So you've got hot lava on the floor and you've got to jump from one bit of furniture to another

So what is the number two game

Olly -  Sayanora Wild Hearts

Tony - A wonderfully immersive game because of the visuals I think that's the thing that's worth mentioning here. The visuals is now there's music in the background it's so. Imaginative isn't it. A very neon world isn't it. So it's not a fully imagined landscape it's very dreamlike isn't it.
Olly - And how you can fly.

Tony - Great soundtrack as well. Sayonara Wild Hearts at number two... very playable.

And the number one game is.

Olly & Phoebe - Sneaky Sasquatch.

Tony - This is the one that was really the spearhead of the campaign for Apple Arcade and Olly can tell you a little bit more about why this is the number one and what you have to do in the game.

Olly - So let's say it's like a survival game.

Tony - Yes you are a sasquatch and you are wandering through this campsite. Yeah and you've got to pick up things along the way and you have to go back to bed a little bit like Minecraft we have got to go back to bed at certain times when it gets dark. But the animation is really quirky. It's great fun. It's very very playable and it's a brilliant one to play with all the family. So number one is Sneaky Sasquatch.

Chris Berrow - Great reviewing. Dr Tony Fisher... Olly and Phoebe his kids... you can come again anytime.


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